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War on Women! Rape Survivor Dissed by CO Politicians

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War on Women! Rape survivor dissed by CO politicians
Now that the election is over, the left doesn’t seem so concerned about that "war on women". And for people who are supposedly all about protecting women, the left sure has a bizarre way of showing it. Once again, a Democrat politician has trivialized a rape survivor’s horrible experience and point-of-view, while arrogantly explaining why she doesn’t need a gun. See the shocking video and Glenn’s reaction.

grandma B

by on Mar. 5, 2013 at 6:31 PM
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grandmab125
by Gold Member on Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:13 PM

 Did you click on the link, read the article & watch the video?  This woman was testifying before CO senate on their anti gun bill.  The female senator tried to minimize her rape and tell her that she wouldn't have been able to protect herself if she had been carrying a gun.  Criticized her that she couldn't defend herself even though she had taken martial arts classes, so what would make her think she could protect herself with a gun. 

Quoting UpSheRises:

If its about rape, why focus on guns? Thats confusing for idiots like me.






Quoting grandmab125:

 It has everything to do with rape, and a woman's right to carry and protect herself.  Did you bother to watch the video?  Sad and pathetic that a female senator (D) would denigrate a rape survivor.  I wonder if she was ever raped.

 


The point is also that it's the Dems who are waging a war on women, not the Republicans.  One more CO Dem denying women the right to protect themselves.  This one thinks women don't know for sure if they're going to be raped:

 



DENVER (AP/CBS4) - Colorado Republicans say Democrats should denounce comments from a state lawmaker who said women may not know if they feel like they're in danger of being raped.

 


Republicans urged state Democratic leaders Tuesday to condemn the remarks that Rep. Joe Salazar made Friday during debate on a bill to ban concealed firearms on colleges. Salazar was arguing that guns don't make campuses safer, and that there are other security measures in place that could prevent unnecessary shootings.

 


"It's why we have call boxes, it's why we have safe zones, it's why we have the whistles. Because you just don't know who you're going to be shooting at," the Democrat from Thornton said.

 


He added, "And you don't know if you feel like you're going to be raped, or if you feel like someone's been following you around or if you feel like you're in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop ... pop a round at somebody."

 


"He didn't think we didn't have the ability to discern an inherent danger; that we base everything on emotions and not rational thought," Rep. Polly Lawrence, R-Littleton, told CBS4 Political Specialist Shaun Boyd.

 


Salazar apologized for the remarks after he made them Friday, but his comments got fresh traction when conservative blogs picked them up Monday.

 


He issued another apology Monday, saying, "I'm sorry that I offended anyone."

 


Republicans said Tuesday that Salazar's apology is not enough.

 


"Questioning a woman's judgment over whether or not she is about to be raped is insensitive and insulting to women everywhere," Lawrence said. "No matter what sort of policy position you're trying to advance, questioning the rational ability of women to perceive threats around them is something Democrat leaders should condemn."

 


 


 

 


Quoting UpSheRises:

Likewise, this post doesnt have anything to do with rape.

Just another case of the gunsies.



Quoting grandmab125:


 1.  This post has nothing to do with automatic weapons.

 



2.  Think about it....if she were allowed to carry a concealed weapon, say in the back of her jeans, or strapped in a holster under her jacket, she would have stood a chance of shooting the bastard.  Since her parents saw to it that she was trained in martial arts, it would follow that she also is trained in using guns.

 



Quoting PinkButterfly66:



So if he already had a gun, hers wouldn't have done her a whole lot of good, now would it?  How about the right of all those innocent slaughtered by semi-automatic weapons?  They'd still be alive if those weapons were banned and YOU would still have a shit load of other types of guns to hoard against the zombies.

 



Quoting grandmab125:



 Did you watch the video?  She pointed out to that obnoxious dem senator that the guy already had his own weapon, he didn't need hers.  We all have a constitutional right to bear arms.  Part of that right is the right to protect yourself, when your life is in danger.

 



Quoting Debmomto2girls:

She had a better chance of the gun being turned and used on her. I am democrat but am very ambivalent on the gun issue. I don't know how I feel about letting students carry guns into the classroom. My first instinct is it doesn't sound like a good idea. I know I am definitely opposed to guns being banned altogether and I believe if someone wants to kill they will find a gun. But, guns in the classroom? I'm not sure


 

 





 



 

 



 

 


 

grandma B

UpSheRises
by Platinum Member on Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:19 PM
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So you agree, this is more about gun rights and less about rape.

I don't really give a shit about the video, what I am taking issue with is claiming this is about supporting rape victims when its really about supporting gun rights.


Quoting grandmab125:

 Did you click on the link, read the article & watch the video?  This woman was testifying before CO senate on their anti gun bill.  The female senator tried to minimize her rape and tell her that she wouldn't have been able to protect herself if she had been carrying a gun.  Criticized her that she couldn't defend herself even though she had taken martial arts classes, so what would make her think she could protect herself with a gun. 


Quoting UpSheRises:

If its about rape, why focus on guns? Thats confusing for idiots like me.







Quoting grandmab125:


 It has everything to do with rape, and a woman's right to carry and protect herself.  Did you bother to watch the video?  Sad and pathetic that a female senator (D) would denigrate a rape survivor.  I wonder if she was ever raped.


 



The point is also that it's the Dems who are waging a war on women, not the Republicans.  One more CO Dem denying women the right to protect themselves.  This one thinks women don't know for sure if they're going to be raped:


 





DENVER (AP/CBS4) - Colorado Republicans say Democrats should denounce comments from a state lawmaker who said women may not know if they feel like they're in danger of being raped.


 



Republicans urged state Democratic leaders Tuesday to condemn the remarks that Rep. Joe Salazar made Friday during debate on a bill to ban concealed firearms on colleges. Salazar was arguing that guns don't make campuses safer, and that there are other security measures in place that could prevent unnecessary shootings.


 



"It's why we have call boxes, it's why we have safe zones, it's why we have the whistles. Because you just don't know who you're going to be shooting at," the Democrat from Thornton said.


 



He added, "And you don't know if you feel like you're going to be raped, or if you feel like someone's been following you around or if you feel like you're in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop ... pop a round at somebody."


 



"He didn't think we didn't have the ability to discern an inherent danger; that we base everything on emotions and not rational thought," Rep. Polly Lawrence, R-Littleton, told CBS4 Political Specialist Shaun Boyd.


 



Salazar apologized for the remarks after he made them Friday, but his comments got fresh traction when conservative blogs picked them up Monday.


 



He issued another apology Monday, saying, "I'm sorry that I offended anyone."


 



Republicans said Tuesday that Salazar's apology is not enough.


 



"Questioning a woman's judgment over whether or not she is about to be raped is insensitive and insulting to women everywhere," Lawrence said. "No matter what sort of policy position you're trying to advance, questioning the rational ability of women to perceive threats around them is something Democrat leaders should condemn."


 



 



 


 



Quoting UpSheRises:

Likewise, this post doesnt have anything to do with rape.

Just another case of the gunsies.




Quoting grandmab125:



 1.  This post has nothing to do with automatic weapons.


 




2.  Think about it....if she were allowed to carry a concealed weapon, say in the back of her jeans, or strapped in a holster under her jacket, she would have stood a chance of shooting the bastard.  Since her parents saw to it that she was trained in martial arts, it would follow that she also is trained in using guns.


 




Quoting PinkButterfly66:




So if he already had a gun, hers wouldn't have done her a whole lot of good, now would it?  How about the right of all those innocent slaughtered by semi-automatic weapons?  They'd still be alive if those weapons were banned and YOU would still have a shit load of other types of guns to hoard against the zombies.


 




Quoting grandmab125:




 Did you watch the video?  She pointed out to that obnoxious dem senator that the guy already had his own weapon, he didn't need hers.  We all have a constitutional right to bear arms.  Part of that right is the right to protect yourself, when your life is in danger.


 




Quoting Debmomto2girls:

She had a better chance of the gun being turned and used on her. I am democrat but am very ambivalent on the gun issue. I don't know how I feel about letting students carry guns into the classroom. My first instinct is it doesn't sound like a good idea. I know I am definitely opposed to guns being banned altogether and I believe if someone wants to kill they will find a gun. But, guns in the classroom? I'm not sure



 


 







 




 


 




 


 



 


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grandmab125
by Gold Member on Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:26 PM

 If you haven't watched the video, and the senator's attack on the rape victim, then your opinion isn't worth crap.  And I'm not agreeing that it's about gun rights.  I said the woman was testifying at the hearing, and she got dissed by the dem female senator....blaming the victim.  Do you understand what showing an example of something is?

Quoting UpSheRises:

So you agree, this is more about gun rights and less about rape.

I don't really give a shit about the video, what I am taking issue with is claiming this is about supporting rape victims when its really about supporting gun rights.


Quoting grandmab125:

 Did you click on the link, read the article & watch the video?  This woman was testifying before CO senate on their anti gun bill.  The female senator tried to minimize her rape and tell her that she wouldn't have been able to protect herself if she had been carrying a gun.  Criticized her that she couldn't defend herself even though she had taken martial arts classes, so what would make her think she could protect herself with a gun. 


Quoting UpSheRises:

If its about rape, why focus on guns? Thats confusing for idiots like me.







Quoting grandmab125:


 It has everything to do with rape, and a woman's right to carry and protect herself.  Did you bother to watch the video?  Sad and pathetic that a female senator (D) would denigrate a rape survivor.  I wonder if she was ever raped.


 



The point is also that it's the Dems who are waging a war on women, not the Republicans.  One more CO Dem denying women the right to protect themselves.  This one thinks women don't know for sure if they're going to be raped:


 





DENVER (AP/CBS4) - Colorado Republicans say Democrats should denounce comments from a state lawmaker who said women may not know if they feel like they're in danger of being raped.


 



Republicans urged state Democratic leaders Tuesday to condemn the remarks that Rep. Joe Salazar made Friday during debate on a bill to ban concealed firearms on colleges. Salazar was arguing that guns don't make campuses safer, and that there are other security measures in place that could prevent unnecessary shootings.


 



"It's why we have call boxes, it's why we have safe zones, it's why we have the whistles. Because you just don't know who you're going to be shooting at," the Democrat from Thornton said.


 



He added, "And you don't know if you feel like you're going to be raped, or if you feel like someone's been following you around or if you feel like you're in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop ... pop a round at somebody."


 



"He didn't think we didn't have the ability to discern an inherent danger; that we base everything on emotions and not rational thought," Rep. Polly Lawrence, R-Littleton, told CBS4 Political Specialist Shaun Boyd.


 



Salazar apologized for the remarks after he made them Friday, but his comments got fresh traction when conservative blogs picked them up Monday.


 



He issued another apology Monday, saying, "I'm sorry that I offended anyone."


 



Republicans said Tuesday that Salazar's apology is not enough.


 



"Questioning a woman's judgment over whether or not she is about to be raped is insensitive and insulting to women everywhere," Lawrence said. "No matter what sort of policy position you're trying to advance, questioning the rational ability of women to perceive threats around them is something Democrat leaders should condemn."


 



 



 


 



Quoting UpSheRises:

Likewise, this post doesnt have anything to do with rape.

Just another case of the gunsies.




Quoting grandmab125:



 1.  This post has nothing to do with automatic weapons.


 




2.  Think about it....if she were allowed to carry a concealed weapon, say in the back of her jeans, or strapped in a holster under her jacket, she would have stood a chance of shooting the bastard.  Since her parents saw to it that she was trained in martial arts, it would follow that she also is trained in using guns.


 




Quoting PinkButterfly66:




So if he already had a gun, hers wouldn't have done her a whole lot of good, now would it?  How about the right of all those innocent slaughtered by semi-automatic weapons?  They'd still be alive if those weapons were banned and YOU would still have a shit load of other types of guns to hoard against the zombies.


 




Quoting grandmab125:




 Did you watch the video?  She pointed out to that obnoxious dem senator that the guy already had his own weapon, he didn't need hers.  We all have a constitutional right to bear arms.  Part of that right is the right to protect yourself, when your life is in danger.


 




Quoting Debmomto2girls:

She had a better chance of the gun being turned and used on her. I am democrat but am very ambivalent on the gun issue. I don't know how I feel about letting students carry guns into the classroom. My first instinct is it doesn't sound like a good idea. I know I am definitely opposed to guns being banned altogether and I believe if someone wants to kill they will find a gun. But, guns in the classroom? I'm not sure



 


 







 




 


 




 


 



 


 

grandma B

NWP
by guerrilla girl on Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Yep...

Quoting UpSheRises:

So you agree, this is more about gun rights and less about rape.

I don't really give a shit about the video, what I am taking issue with is claiming this is about supporting rape victims when its really about supporting gun rights.


Quoting grandmab125:

Neon Washable Paint

turtle68
by Mahinaarangi on Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:17 PM
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 It like a competition for who is the dumbest.  I feel like this post is a "look...look....LOOOOOOOKKK.  They do it, they do it too mommy"  LMAO.

Republicans 100 -  Democrats 5.

Tell me why is there a Liberal sitting on the Presidential seat again please?

NWP
by guerrilla girl on Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Bahahahaaa!

Quoting turtle68:

 It like a competition for who is the dumbest.  I feel like this post is a "look...look....LOOOOOOOKKK.  They do it, they do it too mommy"  LMAO.

Republicans 100 -  Democrats 5.

Tell me why is there a Liberal sitting on the Presidential seat again please?


Neon Washable Paint

12hellokitty
by Platinum Member on Mar. 6, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Interesting how libs were all over Akins general comment on rape, yet now seem to be making excusing and deflecting from democratic state sen. Hudak direct comments degrading and blaming a rape victim.  


Quoting grandmab125:

 It has everything to do with rape, and a woman's right to carry and protect herself.  Did you bother to watch the video?  Sad and pathetic that a female senator (D) would denigrate a rape survivor.  I wonder if she was ever raped.


The point is also that it's the Dems who are waging a war on women, not the Republicans.  One more CO Dem denying women the right to protect themselves.  This one thinks women don't know for sure if they're going to be raped:


DENVER (AP/CBS4) - Colorado Republicans say Democrats should denounce comments from a state lawmaker who said women may not know if they feel like they're in danger of being raped.


Republicans urged state Democratic leaders Tuesday to condemn the remarks that Rep. Joe Salazar made Friday during debate on a bill to ban concealed firearms on colleges. Salazar was arguing that guns don't make campuses safer, and that there are other security measures in place that could prevent unnecessary shootings.


"It's why we have call boxes, it's why we have safe zones, it's why we have the whistles. Because you just don't know who you're going to be shooting at," the Democrat from Thornton said.


He added, "And you don't know if you feel like you're going to be raped, or if you feel like someone's been following you around or if you feel like you're in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop ... pop a round at somebody."


"He didn't think we didn't have the ability to discern an inherent danger; that we base everything on emotions and not rational thought," Rep. Polly Lawrence, R-Littleton, told CBS4 Political Specialist Shaun Boyd.


Salazar apologized for the remarks after he made them Friday, but his comments got fresh traction when conservative blogs picked them up Monday.


He issued another apology Monday, saying, "I'm sorry that I offended anyone."


Republicans said Tuesday that Salazar's apology is not enough.


"Questioning a woman's judgment over whether or not she is about to be raped is insensitive and insulting to women everywhere," Lawrence said. "No matter what sort of policy position you're trying to advance, questioning the rational ability of women to perceive threats around them is something Democrat leaders should condemn."



 


Quoting UpSheRises:

Likewise, this post doesnt have anything to do with rape.

Just another case of the gunsies.


Quoting grandmab125:

 1.  This post has nothing to do with automatic weapons.



2.  Think about it....if she were allowed to carry a concealed weapon, say in the back of her jeans, or strapped in a holster under her jacket, she would have stood a chance of shooting the bastard.  Since her parents saw to it that she was trained in martial arts, it would follow that she also is trained in using guns.



Quoting PinkButterfly66:


So if he already had a gun, hers wouldn't have done her a whole lot of good, now would it?  How about the right of all those innocent slaughtered by semi-automatic weapons?  They'd still be alive if those weapons were banned and YOU would still have a shit load of other types of guns to hoard against the zombies.



Quoting grandmab125:


 Did you watch the video?  She pointed out to that obnoxious dem senator that the guy already had his own weapon, he didn't need hers.  We all have a constitutional right to bear arms.  Part of that right is the right to protect yourself, when your life is in danger.



Quoting Debmomto2girls:

She had a better chance of the gun being turned and used on her. I am democrat but am very ambivalent on the gun issue. I don't know how I feel about letting students carry guns into the classroom. My first instinct is it doesn't sound like a good idea. I know I am definitely opposed to guns being banned altogether and I believe if someone wants to kill they will find a gun. But, guns in the classroom? I'm not sure

 






 



 




12hellokitty
by Platinum Member on Mar. 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM


It's about giving women the right to choose how to protect themselves so they can prevent being a victim.


Quoting NWP:

Yep...

Quoting UpSheRises:

So you agree, this is more about gun rights and less about rape.

I don't really give a shit about the video, what I am taking issue with is claiming this is about supporting rape victims when its really about supporting gun rights.


Quoting grandmab125:



grandmab125
by Gold Member on Mar. 6, 2013 at 3:21 PM

 Oh, but wait, it's different...because she's one of theirs.  Disgusting.

Quoting 12hellokitty:

Interesting how libs were all over Akins general comment on rape, yet now seem to be making excusing and deflecting from democratic state sen. Hudak direct comments degrading and blaming a rape victim.  

 

Quoting grandmab125:

 It has everything to do with rape, and a woman's right to carry and protect herself.  Did you bother to watch the video?  Sad and pathetic that a female senator (D) would denigrate a rape survivor.  I wonder if she was ever raped.

 

The point is also that it's the Dems who are waging a war on women, not the Republicans.  One more CO Dem denying women the right to protect themselves.  This one thinks women don't know for sure if they're going to be raped:

 

DENVER (AP/CBS4) - Colorado Republicans say Democrats should denounce comments from a state lawmaker who said women may not know if they feel like they're in danger of being raped.

 

Republicans urged state Democratic leaders Tuesday to condemn the remarks that Rep. Joe Salazar made Friday during debate on a bill to ban concealed firearms on colleges. Salazar was arguing that guns don't make campuses safer, and that there are other security measures in place that could prevent unnecessary shootings.

 

"It's why we have call boxes, it's why we have safe zones, it's why we have the whistles. Because you just don't know who you're going to be shooting at," the Democrat from Thornton said.

 

He added, "And you don't know if you feel like you're going to be raped, or if you feel like someone's been following you around or if you feel like you're in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop ... pop a round at somebody."

 

"He didn't think we didn't have the ability to discern an inherent danger; that we base everything on emotions and not rational thought," Rep. Polly Lawrence, R-Littleton, told CBS4 Political Specialist Shaun Boyd.

 

Salazar apologized for the remarks after he made them Friday, but his comments got fresh traction when conservative blogs picked them up Monday.

 

He issued another apology Monday, saying, "I'm sorry that I offended anyone."

 

Republicans said Tuesday that Salazar's apology is not enough.

 

"Questioning a woman's judgment over whether or not she is about to be raped is insensitive and insulting to women everywhere," Lawrence said. "No matter what sort of policy position you're trying to advance, questioning the rational ability of women to perceive threats around them is something Democrat leaders should condemn."

 

 

 

 

Quoting UpSheRises:

Likewise, this post doesnt have anything to do with rape.

Just another case of the gunsies.


Quoting grandmab125:

 1.  This post has nothing to do with automatic weapons.

 


2.  Think about it....if she were allowed to carry a concealed weapon, say in the back of her jeans, or strapped in a holster under her jacket, she would have stood a chance of shooting the bastard.  Since her parents saw to it that she was trained in martial arts, it would follow that she also is trained in using guns.

 


Quoting PinkButterfly66:


So if he already had a gun, hers wouldn't have done her a whole lot of good, now would it?  How about the right of all those innocent slaughtered by semi-automatic weapons?  They'd still be alive if those weapons were banned and YOU would still have a shit load of other types of guns to hoard against the zombies.

 


Quoting grandmab125:


 Did you watch the video?  She pointed out to that obnoxious dem senator that the guy already had his own weapon, he didn't need hers.  We all have a constitutional right to bear arms.  Part of that right is the right to protect yourself, when your life is in danger.

 


Quoting Debmomto2girls:

She had a better chance of the gun being turned and used on her. I am democrat but am very ambivalent on the gun issue. I don't know how I feel about letting students carry guns into the classroom. My first instinct is it doesn't sound like a good idea. I know I am definitely opposed to guns being banned altogether and I believe if someone wants to kill they will find a gun. But, guns in the classroom? I'm not sure

 

 



 


 

 


 

 

 

 

 

grandma B

stormcris
by Christy on Mar. 6, 2013 at 3:32 PM

War on this war on that....the word war has no meaning at all to people anymore.

That being said...

Democrats nor republicans have the right to tell anyone what they do or do not need in order to feel safe.

It has been shown that the idea of someone carrying has deterred crime in many areas.

However, it will not deter all. Some people will take their chances.

Honestly the best way to stop violence is to be as anonymous as possible. Draw the least amount of attention to yourself and don't interact. I am not sure that is a way of life that would be comfortable to many. 

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