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NYC’s ‘Cost of Teen Pregnancy’ PSAs **edited**

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I am not a fan of teen pregnancy.  However, I absolutely agree that such a 'campaign' is only meant to degrade.  Money thrown out as many feel teen parents should be.


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Planned Parenthood trashes NYC’s ‘Cost of Teen Pregnancy’ PSAs

By  | The Lookout – 5 hrs ago

Planned Parenthood denounced a new ad campaign aimed at sexually active teens, unveiled by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg this week, for shaming current and expectant teen parents and their children.

“The latest NYC ad campaign creates stigma, hostility and negative public opinions about teen pregnancy and parenthood rather than offering alternative aspirations for young people,” Haydee Morales, vice president of education and training at Planned Parenthood's New York office, said in a statement released on Wednesday. “The city’s money would be better spent helping teens access health care, birth control and high-quality sexual and reproductive health education, not an ad campaign intended to create shock value.”

The "Cost of Teen Pregnancy" campaign—displayed in subways and bus shelters citywide—includes images of concerned toddlers with messages for their teen parents.

"Honestly Mom," one poster reads, "chances are he won't stay with you. What happens to me?"

"Dad, you'll be paying to support me for the next 20 years," reads another, noting that New York state law requires a parent to pay child support until a child is 21.

The public service announcements also instruct teens to text "'NOTNOW' to 877877 for the real cost of teen pregnancy."

[Related: NYC rolls out 'Cost of Teen Pregnancy' PSAs]

"This campaign makes very clear to young people that there’s a lot at stake when it comes to deciding to raise a child,” Bloomberg said in his weekly radio address on Sunday.

The effort, he said, will "let thousands of young New Yorkers know that waiting to become a parent could be the best decision they ever make.”

According to the health department, the city's teen pregnancy rate has fallen 27 percent in the past decade. But Morales said stigmatizing teens who have already become parents "has not been a part of what has led to this success."

In 2011, the city quietly rolled out a controversial pilot program that allowed teens access to the contraceptive drug Plan B—the so-called "morning after pill"—in some of its public schools without parental consent. (Parents could choose to exclude their children from access.) In 2012, officials expanded the program to 13 schools with hopes of implementing it citywide.

That program—dubbed CATCH, or "Connecting Adolescents To Comprehensive Health"—is supported by Planned Parenthood.

I am not a fan of teen pregnancy.  This campaign, however, is meant to degrade. There is nothing positive there.  Sadly, many will agree with this and feel this will do good.  What that 'good' is.......I'm not sure.  It certainly is not going to help deter any one from having sex, protected or otherwise.

Shame on NYC and their Mayor.

***If some of you can get past the Planned Parenthood aspect and get your heads out of the sand, maybe you could see that the money used here could have been better spent.

*******

Ya know, even old dogs can learn new tricks.

I think, when I first read this, I was uncomfortable with the delivery of this message and instead of taking some time, I jumped right on the defensive.  And believe me, I am any thing other than for kids having kids.  I've always been very much against teen sex, much less pregnancy.

So, after reading the replies, well........most of them.......I have realized that the message is correct.  It is indeed the delivery I dislike.  I also feel the money spent here could have been used in a more positive way and perhaps with not such a bullying type approach.  The more we shame and make a point of disgracing, the more people are not going to listen to the message.

by on Mar. 6, 2013 at 7:10 PM
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littlelamb303
by Bronze Member on Mar. 7, 2013 at 8:51 AM

I don't have a problem with these signs at all.  Teen pregnancy should never be sugar coated.  I have a teen and she knows how I feel about this. I don't understand how some think that this is shaming someone?  If you mean a teen that already is pregnant might read them?  OH WELL, too bad.  Life is about to get REALLY tough.

SamsMomSays
by Member on Mar. 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM
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The initial topic posed was Mayor Bloomberg's ad campaign. I believe the question, had there been one posed, might have been, "what was the intention of this ad?" or, "is this ad campaign effective?"
Being a New Yorker, I'd like to share some background. First, let me say, though I am not in favor of all of the Mayor's initiatives, I have a lot of respect for the man. I do feel he is too intrusive and wish he didn't attempt to control so much of his constituents lives. However, I do believe that he takes aggressive action to better New Yorkers' lives, at least in his opinion. He is Big Brother, yet well intentioned.
For those of you who don't know, New York City has calorie counts required to be published and displayed for any restaurant that has more than 3 establishments. The Mayor just limited the size of soft drinks that can be sold. We have very high taxes on cigarettes. All restaurants are rated for cleanliness. He takes a stand against unions for the betterment of students. He's made the City safer. He's planted trees and created parks.
He takes unpopular stands when he feels they are right. People were angry when he limited soft drink sizes. Restaurants were angry when he insisted on calorie counts. Unions were angry when he insisted contracts go out for bids. He is an "in your face" leader.
He does seem to think that most people are to stupid or uninformed to make smart choices. So... He's going to inform you, educate you, or force you to do what's best. Again, though I don't always agree with him, I definitely respect him.
Looking at this ad in the context of his other actions, a reasonable reader would assume that they are not meant to shame teen parents but to "grab and shock" and hopefully deter others from going down that path. Kids, especially these days, are notorious for ignoring anything that doesn't grab their attention. Well, this grabbed a lot of attention. Hope it has the desired affect!!
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delilahsmom1177
by Bronze Member on Mar. 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Actually my grandma fully understands. Those were the times and I personally feel as though my great grandma was one of the best mothers in the world. SHe took my grandma in after she left her abusive husband into a small 2 bedroom apt with 4 hyper kids. She showered her grandchildren with not only gifts but love upon love. I miss that woman dearly and I hope to be haf the mom she was.











































































































Quoting FromAtoZ:


Quoting delilahsmom1177:

Great that you feel that way. Glad my grandma didn't. My aunt loved my great grandma. You know what my great grandma wore to my grandmas wedding.... A funeral gown... She was ashamed that her DD was pregnant and having to get married. She LOVED my aunt with all her heart but was always ashamed of my grandma.

Quoting AutymsMommy:


Glad you weren't my mother. Had you been, you wouldn't have a relationship with me or your grandchild.

Quoting delilahsmom1177:

A baby shower is to show off the mommy and whatnot. She can have one I will not GIVE her one. She can get gifts I will even get things for m y grandbaby... I would get anything and everything for THE BABY NOT her.

Quoting Healthystart30:

Quoting delilahsmom1177:




Baby showers are to help the new parents with stuff needed for the baby. Why wouldn't you want to help your daughter prepare for the baby? What a weird way to show support





How incredibly sad.

I can see why you think the way you do.

*sigh*

Thank goodness I learned from my own mother, of what type of woman and mother I did not want to be.


I'm a tattooed,pagan,pro-choice,pro-legalizing marijuana,pro-gay marriage,anti-war,non-vaxing,tree hugging,animal loving,book reading,animal testing free,depression battling, trying to raise a free spirit and letting her be who she is but still teaching her important life lessons,fighting for equal rights at the same time,don't like it get over it.

TranquilMind
by Platinum Member on Mar. 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM

 

Heh.  But statistics about people are just numbers that don't lie in the aggregate.  It's true that so many people will do this or that, or be at risk for this or that, based on past evidence. 

Again, no doubt there are exceptions.  But exceptions are exceptions and not the rule. 

Quoting livelaughlov26:

Statistics.....people are not statistics


Quoting TranquilMind:

 Statistically, all of these things about young parents are more likely to be true than they are of people in their thirties. 


Sure, there will always be exceptions.  But that's what they are ....exceptions.


 


Quoting livelaughlov26:

It's stereotyping all young parents as being in a dysfunctional relationship where they will always break up, the dad will pay child support, and no one goes to college. There are people who have kids in their thirties in the same position. If someone is a good person they will better themselves for their child.



Quoting FromAtoZ:




Quoting livelaughlov26:

I like the message but not the delivery.

Perhaps this was my issue.  The delivery.



 


 



 

la_bella_vita
by Bella on Mar. 7, 2013 at 3:09 PM
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 I agree with you. The message is correct but the delievery is wrong. My mom was a teen mom and I graduated high school and college. My parents never were on welfare. Both my parents graduated high school. My parents stayed together for 20 years. Every story is different but this is certainly the norm.

mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Mar. 7, 2013 at 3:28 PM

My mother did this to me. 

Our relationship is still fractured from it today and it very much affects my son. You would be doing your daughter a disservice and causing unnecessary pain. I cannot tell you how horrible it feels to know I disappointed my mother and then have her treat me this way on top of it. It crippled my self esteem for years and affected my ability as a parent. 

Please, for the love I know you have for your daughter, don't do this if she does get pregnant. 

Quoting delilahsmom1177:

If my DD becomes pregnant I will feel like I failed as a parent and be shamed myself. I would ONLY help my DD for my grandchild. And that would be watching the child so she could work and NOTHING else, I would not be proud and show off my pregnant DD like my mom did me. I will show off the baby but that's because the baby is innocent. I would not want to go out in public with my DD while she is pregnant. I would not give her a baby shower, nor would I buy her maturnity clothes. She would be 100% on her own..... 

Quoting FromAtoZ:
Quoting delilahsmom1177:

They should feel alone. they should feel shamed. They are doing their children a disservice!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoting FromAtoZ:
Quoting CLEKate:

I personally think that teenagers need to hear this side of teen pregnancy.  They need to have the cold hard facts shoved down their throats.  So maybe they'll think twice before having unprotected sex or getting pregnant on purpose.

Okay, I see your point. However, the 'cold hard facts' should be presented in a manner that does not point fingers and does not place the teen parents in to a box where they already feel alone.

This will only make most feel worse than they may already feel.  Helpless and lost and alone.  This is telling them they have failed as a human being and will, without doubt, fail their child.

Education and prevention is key.  This campaign only points fingers with the intent to shame.  That is not positive at all.

You cannot bully some one in to doing what you want them to do.

And this right here is the problem many teens face.  Pregnant or not.

You lump every one in to one box and that is never wise.

If your child turns out to be a teen parent, do you plan on turning your back on him/her to ensure they feel alone?  Do you plan on shaming them publicly and otherwise?

delilahsmom1177
by Bronze Member on Mar. 7, 2013 at 3:32 PM

YOu dissapointed your mom.. She told you and you felt bad... That is the way it works. My mom will tell you her grandma was an amazing woman who she loves as though she was still with us... almost 8 years after she passed. MY great grandma did not talk to my mom the whole time she was pregnant with my brother and did not see my brother until he was 6 months old. My mom was pregnant out of wedlock and refused to get married. Me my brother and my mom were still at my great grandmas every Sunday for family dinner. WE knew she was just old school, She loved us and THAT is why she was dissapointed. If she didn't love any of us she would not have cared.

Quoting mehamil1:

My mother did this to me. 

Our relationship is still fractured from it today and it very much affects my son. You would be doing your daughter a disservice and causing unnecessary pain. I cannot tell you how horrible it feels to know I disappointed my mother and then have her treat me this way on top of it. It crippled my self esteem for years and affected my ability as a parent. 

Please, for the love I know you have for your daughter, don't do this if she does get pregnant. 

Quoting delilahsmom1177:

If my DD becomes pregnant I will feel like I failed as a parent and be shamed myself. I would ONLY help my DD for my grandchild. And that would be watching the child so she could work and NOTHING else, I would not be proud and show off my pregnant DD like my mom did me. I will show off the baby but that's because the baby is innocent. I would not want to go out in public with my DD while she is pregnant. I would not give her a baby shower, nor would I buy her maturnity clothes. She would be 100% on her own..... 

Quoting FromAtoZ:
Quoting delilahsmom1177:

They should feel alone. they should feel shamed. They are doing their children a disservice!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoting FromAtoZ:
Quoting CLEKate:

I personally think that teenagers need to hear this side of teen pregnancy.  They need to have the cold hard facts shoved down their throats.  So maybe they'll think twice before having unprotected sex or getting pregnant on purpose.

Okay, I see your point. However, the 'cold hard facts' should be presented in a manner that does not point fingers and does not place the teen parents in to a box where they already feel alone.

This will only make most feel worse than they may already feel.  Helpless and lost and alone.  This is telling them they have failed as a human being and will, without doubt, fail their child.

Education and prevention is key.  This campaign only points fingers with the intent to shame.  That is not positive at all.

You cannot bully some one in to doing what you want them to do.

And this right here is the problem many teens face.  Pregnant or not.

You lump every one in to one box and that is never wise.

If your child turns out to be a teen parent, do you plan on turning your back on him/her to ensure they feel alone?  Do you plan on shaming them publicly and otherwise?


I'm a tattooed,pagan,pro-choice,pro-legalizing marijuana,pro-gay marriage,anti-war,non-vaxing,tree hugging,animal loving,book reading,animal testing free,depression battling, trying to raise a free spirit and letting her be who she is but still teaching her important life lessons,fighting for equal rights at the same time,don't like it get over it.

mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Mar. 7, 2013 at 3:43 PM

I get that your family loves each other. I think. 

I've read through the replies here. I don't think you know what you are doing. For the sake of your daughter, I hope she doesn't get pregnant. 

Also, trim your trees. 

And I sit here before you a college graduate despite having my son while I was still in high school. 

Quoting delilahsmom1177:

YOu dissapointed your mom.. She told you and you felt bad... That is the way it works. My mom will tell you her grandma was an amazing woman who she loves as though she was still with us... almost 8 years after she passed. MY great grandma did not talk to my mom the whole time she was pregnant with my brother and did not see my brother until he was 6 months old. My mom was pregnant out of wedlock and refused to get married. Me my brother and my mom were still at my great grandmas every Sunday for family dinner. WE knew she was just old school, She loved us and THAT is why she was dissapointed. If she didn't love any of us she would not have cared.

Quoting mehamil1:

My mother did this to me. 

Our relationship is still fractured from it today and it very much affects my son. You would be doing your daughter a disservice and causing unnecessary pain. I cannot tell you how horrible it feels to know I disappointed my mother and then have her treat me this way on top of it. It crippled my self esteem for years and affected my ability as a parent. 

Please, for the love I know you have for your daughter, don't do this if she does get pregnant. 

Quoting delilahsmom1177:

If my DD becomes pregnant I will feel like I failed as a parent and be shamed myself. I would ONLY help my DD for my grandchild. And that would be watching the child so she could work and NOTHING else, I would not be proud and show off my pregnant DD like my mom did me. I will show off the baby but that's because the baby is innocent. I would not want to go out in public with my DD while she is pregnant. I would not give her a baby shower, nor would I buy her maturnity clothes. She would be 100% on her own..... 

Quoting FromAtoZ:
Quoting delilahsmom1177:

They should feel alone. they should feel shamed. They are doing their children a disservice!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoting FromAtoZ:
Quoting CLEKate:

I personally think that teenagers need to hear this side of teen pregnancy.  They need to have the cold hard facts shoved down their throats.  So maybe they'll think twice before having unprotected sex or getting pregnant on purpose.

Okay, I see your point. However, the 'cold hard facts' should be presented in a manner that does not point fingers and does not place the teen parents in to a box where they already feel alone.

This will only make most feel worse than they may already feel.  Helpless and lost and alone.  This is telling them they have failed as a human being and will, without doubt, fail their child.

Education and prevention is key.  This campaign only points fingers with the intent to shame.  That is not positive at all.

You cannot bully some one in to doing what you want them to do.

And this right here is the problem many teens face.  Pregnant or not.

You lump every one in to one box and that is never wise.

If your child turns out to be a teen parent, do you plan on turning your back on him/her to ensure they feel alone?  Do you plan on shaming them publicly and otherwise?

mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Mar. 7, 2013 at 3:45 PM

These kinds of signs were up in my high school. 

I still got pregnant. As did a lot of other girls. 

I think there's a better way of going about this. 

I'm also concerned about the constant focus on girls. Talk to the girls! Counsel the sexually active girls!

What about the boys? We didn't get pregnant by ourselves ya know. 

mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Mar. 7, 2013 at 3:53 PM

What cuts down on teen pregnancy: clear, concise and ACCURATE sex education. Including the emotional aspect of sex, not just the physical. 

Education on what a healthy relationship looks like (ie, if he's/she's going through your cell phone, talking to you in an abusive manner, physically intimidating you/hurting you, that means you are in an unhealthy relationship). 

Access to contraception WITHOUT parent approval. When teens can get the pill through the school without parent approval, teen pregnancy for that school drops. If teens can also access condoms along with the BC, the teen pregnancy rate and STD infections drop. 

Access to accurate information and access to the tools necessary to protect themselves has proven over and over again to bring down the rate of teen pregnancy. Not just in this country but around the world. Also, having access to all this does not make a teen more likely to have sex (this has been proven over and over again). It empowers and protects the ones who have already decided to have sex. And those who have decided to have sex and had access to all this were much more likely to use protection. 

The facts speak for themselves. If we could get our heads out of our asses in regards to sexuality in and of itself, we might make some headway in bringing down the rate even more without these kinds of posters. 

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