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Q: What do these "Patriotic" Americans have in common? Answer inside. LOL

by on Mar. 6, 2013 at 9:06 PM
Replies (31-40):
lga1965
by on Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:14 PM

 Besides being Draft Dodgers, all 6 of these men are just disgusting. They are unattractive and very inappropriate men.

soonergirl980
by Silver Member on Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:14 PM


And I'm saying choosing to go to college over war is not an evil or bad thing and that person still has a right to support/have an opinion military actions. They are no different than anyone that chose to go to school instead of deploying to Afghanistan. In other words the "point" of the meme is ridiculous.

Quoting brookiecookie87:

I think you have misunderstood.

No one has said that they are void from having an opinion on war.

People were just pointing out what all these guys who favor war have in common-That they could not be part of it.


Quoting soonergirl980:

Lots of people where on college, medical, and religious deferments that does not forever void them of having an opinion on war.


Quoting brookiecookie87:

Again the point flies over your head.

There is a HUGE difference in someone who strongly supports war and hasn't served and someone who strongly supports wars but purposely avoids being drafted.

Do you understand the difference I am trying to point out?

Quoting soonergirl980:

Oh so you can't strongly support war or the military unless you youself have served? Frankly if they didn't want to serve then I'm glad they didn't. I don't like the draft, but that doesn't mean that you can't support military actions.


Quoting stacymomof2:

No, she is saying they are chickenhawks.

Quoting soonergirl980:

Are you saying you cannot be patriotic unless you serve?












stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:17 PM
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That's not what chickenhawk means.  Here's the wiki def:

Chickenhawk (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk) is a political term used in the United States to describe a person who strongly supports war or other military action (i.e., a War Hawk), yet who actively avoided military service when of age.

The term indicates that the person in question is hypocritical for personally dodging a draft or otherwise shirking their duty to their country during a time of armed conflict while advocating that others do so. Generally, the implication is that chickenhawks lack the moral character to ask others to support, fight and perhaps die in an armed conflict. Those who avoid military service and continue to oppose armed aggression are not chickenhawks.

So, of the people in the photos:

Romney supported the Vietnam war, yet was able to get several deferrements including a 31 month trip to France to minister.  He was OK with poor people fighting, but didn't believe he himself should.  Supporting a war for other people to fight, yet avoiding it yourself, is called being a chickenhawk.

Trump got a medical deferrment because he came from a rich family, yet supports other young men dying in wars.  Chickenhawk.

Cheney had a child when he was eligible, making him less eligible at the time (he aged out in 1967 before they started making fathers with children go.)  He didn't volunteer, though, did he?  And I think we all know how Cheney likes a good, pocket-lining war.

I'm sure we all heard Nugent's story from his own mouth, when he talks about soiling his pants so he appears too crazy and gets a deferrment.  He denies it now, but he did get classified as one of the last people to get called after his physical.  But ol' shoot 'em up Ted is very fond of military action, as you well know, as long as someone else is risking their life.  Chickenhawk.

Rush had his personal doctor submit a report to the draft board that he had a pilonidal cyst and a bad knee.  He never had a military exam. Yet he never shut up about Bill Clinton dodging the draft, and he is a supporter of all wars including Vietnam.  Chickenhawk.

Finally Bill O, fan of all wars, made sure he got his deferrments.  Chickenhawk.

Quoting soonergirl980:

Oh so you can't strongly support war or the military unless you youself have served? Frankly if they didn't want to serve then I'm glad they didn't. I don't like the draft, but that doesn't mean that you can't support military actions.


Quoting stacymomof2:

No, she is saying they are chickenhawks.

Quoting soonergirl980:

Are you saying you cannot be patriotic unless you serve?





stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:21 PM

lol

Quoting mehamil1:

If Donald Trump fell hair first into a volcano, I'd be ok with that. 


soonergirl980
by Silver Member on Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Again they all got legal deferments, but that does not void their opinion on war or military actions just like it doesn't with Clinton. Typically "draft dodger" is thought of as one who illegally avoided the draft, but like I said I don't really agree with the draft in the first place so I wouldn't ridicule anyone who chose not to go and I would not ridicule their opinon on war 40 years later.


Quoting stacymomof2:

That's not what chickenhawk means.  Here's the wiki def:

Chickenhawk (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk) is a political term used in the United States to describe a person who strongly supports war or other military action (i.e., a War Hawk), yet who actively avoided military service when of age.

The term indicates that the person in question is hypocritical for personally dodging a draft or otherwise shirking their duty to their country during a time of armed conflict while advocating that others do so. Generally, the implication is that chickenhawks lack the moral character to ask others to support, fight and perhaps die in an armed conflict. Those who avoid military service and continue to oppose armed aggression are not chickenhawks.

So, of the people in the photos:

Romney supported the Vietnam war, yet was able to get several deferrements including a 31 month trip to France to minister.  He was OK with poor people fighting, but didn't believe he himself should.  Supporting a war for other people to fight, yet avoiding it yourself, is called being a chickenhawk.

Trump got a medical deferrment because he came from a rich family, yet supports other young men dying in wars.  Chickenhawk.

Cheney had a child when he was eligible, making him less eligible at the time (he aged out in 1967 before they started making fathers with children go.)  He didn't volunteer, though, did he?  And I think we all know how Cheney likes a good, pocket-lining war.

I'm sure we all heard Nugent's story from his own mouth, when he talks about soiling his pants so he appears too crazy and gets a deferrment.  He denies it now, but he did get classified as one of the last people to get called after his physical.  But ol' shoot 'em up Ted is very fond of military action, as you well know, as long as someone else is risking their life.  Chickenhawk.

Rush had his personal doctor submit a report to the draft board that he had a pilonidal cyst and a bad knee.  He never had a military exam. Yet he never shut up about Bill Clinton dodging the draft, and he is a supporter of all wars including Vietnam.  Chickenhawk.

Finally Bill O, fan of all wars, made sure he got his deferrments.  Chickenhawk.

Quoting soonergirl980:

Oh so you can't strongly support war or the military unless you youself have served? Frankly if they didn't want to serve then I'm glad they didn't. I don't like the draft, but that doesn't mean that you can't support military actions.


Quoting stacymomof2:

No, she is saying they are chickenhawks.

Quoting soonergirl980:

Are you saying you cannot be patriotic unless you serve?







stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Yeah, sure, legal.  But truthful?  

My dad is of the age that was drafted.  He was in school and had kids, but near the end of the conflict he was very close to being called (they quit caring if you had kids at that point.)  No way did he want to go.  And no way did he support the war or support others to go fight in his place while he went to college.

Romney especially irks me because he said he supported the war, yet took a 3 year trip to France, something that could only be done by a rich person, and left people like my uncle, a hard working young man, to go off to vietnam because he didn't have an opportunity to minister overseas.  The others may have been vocal supporters, I don't know.

Don't act like you don't know that it was rich kid privledge to be able to get numerous deferrments.  Poor kids who either couldn't get into college or couldn't afford it were the ones who died.  They weren't no fortunate sons. (CCR reference)

Quoting soonergirl980:

Again they all got legal deferments, but that does not void their opinion on war or military actions just like it doesn't with Clinton. Typically "draft dodger" is thought of as one who illegally avoided the draft, but like I said I don't really agree with the draft in the first place so I wouldn't ridicule anyone who chose not to go and I would not ridicule their opinon on war 40 years later.


Quoting stacymomof2:

That's not what chickenhawk means.  Here's the wiki def:

Chickenhawk (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk) is a political term used in the United States to describe a person who strongly supports war or other military action (i.e., a War Hawk), yet who actively avoided military service when of age.

The term indicates that the person in question is hypocritical for personally dodging a draft or otherwise shirking their duty to their country during a time of armed conflict while advocating that others do so. Generally, the implication is that chickenhawks lack the moral character to ask others to support, fight and perhaps die in an armed conflict. Those who avoid military service and continue to oppose armed aggression are not chickenhawks.

So, of the people in the photos:

Romney supported the Vietnam war, yet was able to get several deferrements including a 31 month trip to France to minister.  He was OK with poor people fighting, but didn't believe he himself should.  Supporting a war for other people to fight, yet avoiding it yourself, is called being a chickenhawk.

Trump got a medical deferrment because he came from a rich family, yet supports other young men dying in wars.  Chickenhawk.

Cheney had a child when he was eligible, making him less eligible at the time (he aged out in 1967 before they started making fathers with children go.)  He didn't volunteer, though, did he?  And I think we all know how Cheney likes a good, pocket-lining war.

I'm sure we all heard Nugent's story from his own mouth, when he talks about soiling his pants so he appears too crazy and gets a deferrment.  He denies it now, but he did get classified as one of the last people to get called after his physical.  But ol' shoot 'em up Ted is very fond of military action, as you well know, as long as someone else is risking their life.  Chickenhawk.

Rush had his personal doctor submit a report to the draft board that he had a pilonidal cyst and a bad knee.  He never had a military exam. Yet he never shut up about Bill Clinton dodging the draft, and he is a supporter of all wars including Vietnam.  Chickenhawk.

Finally Bill O, fan of all wars, made sure he got his deferrments.  Chickenhawk.

Quoting soonergirl980:

Oh so you can't strongly support war or the military unless you youself have served? Frankly if they didn't want to serve then I'm glad they didn't. I don't like the draft, but that doesn't mean that you can't support military actions.


Quoting stacymomof2:

No, she is saying they are chickenhawks.

Quoting soonergirl980:

Are you saying you cannot be patriotic unless you serve?








soonergirl980
by Silver Member on Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Thats life though some people can afford missionary trips to France and some can't. I mean Romney was in fact a mormon missionary so yes his deferment was true. My dad spent 3 tours the military offered him a lot of opportunities that he would have not otherwise have had. First one to attend college in his family of poor steel mill workers. His experience does not change the fact that Clinton and O'Rielly who could afford to go to college out of highschool does not change the fact that they have a right to their opinion.


Quoting stacymomof2:

Yeah, sure, legal.  But truthful?  

My dad is of the age that was drafted.  He was in school and had kids, but near the end of the conflict he was very close to being called (they quit caring if you had kids at that point.)  No way did he want to go.  And no way did he support the war or support others to go fight in his place while he went to college.

Romney especially irks me because he said he supported the war, yet took a 3 year trip to France, something that could only be done by a rich person, and left people like my uncle, a hard working young man, to go off to vietnam because he didn't have an opportunity to minister overseas.  The others may have been vocal supporters, I don't know.

Don't act like you don't know that it was rich kid privledge to be able to get numerous deferrments.  Poor kids who either couldn't get into college or couldn't afford it were the ones who died.  They weren't no fortunate sons. (CCR reference)

Quoting soonergirl980:

Again they all got legal deferments, but that does not void their opinion on war or military actions just like it doesn't with Clinton. Typically "draft dodger" is thought of as one who illegally avoided the draft, but like I said I don't really agree with the draft in the first place so I wouldn't ridicule anyone who chose not to go and I would not ridicule their opinon on war 40 years later.


Quoting stacymomof2:

That's not what chickenhawk means.  Here's the wiki def:

Chickenhawk (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk) is a political term used in the United States to describe a person who strongly supports war or other military action (i.e., a War Hawk), yet who actively avoided military service when of age.

The term indicates that the person in question is hypocritical for personally dodging a draft or otherwise shirking their duty to their country during a time of armed conflict while advocating that others do so. Generally, the implication is that chickenhawks lack the moral character to ask others to support, fight and perhaps die in an armed conflict. Those who avoid military service and continue to oppose armed aggression are not chickenhawks.

So, of the people in the photos:

Romney supported the Vietnam war, yet was able to get several deferrements including a 31 month trip to France to minister.  He was OK with poor people fighting, but didn't believe he himself should.  Supporting a war for other people to fight, yet avoiding it yourself, is called being a chickenhawk.

Trump got a medical deferrment because he came from a rich family, yet supports other young men dying in wars.  Chickenhawk.

Cheney had a child when he was eligible, making him less eligible at the time (he aged out in 1967 before they started making fathers with children go.)  He didn't volunteer, though, did he?  And I think we all know how Cheney likes a good, pocket-lining war.

I'm sure we all heard Nugent's story from his own mouth, when he talks about soiling his pants so he appears too crazy and gets a deferrment.  He denies it now, but he did get classified as one of the last people to get called after his physical.  But ol' shoot 'em up Ted is very fond of military action, as you well know, as long as someone else is risking their life.  Chickenhawk.

Rush had his personal doctor submit a report to the draft board that he had a pilonidal cyst and a bad knee.  He never had a military exam. Yet he never shut up about Bill Clinton dodging the draft, and he is a supporter of all wars including Vietnam.  Chickenhawk.

Finally Bill O, fan of all wars, made sure he got his deferrments.  Chickenhawk.

Quoting soonergirl980:

Oh so you can't strongly support war or the military unless you youself have served? Frankly if they didn't want to serve then I'm glad they didn't. I don't like the draft, but that doesn't mean that you can't support military actions.


Quoting stacymomof2:

No, she is saying they are chickenhawks.

Quoting soonergirl980:

Are you saying you cannot be patriotic unless you serve?










CountryMomma123
by Member on Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:56 PM

You can apply it to whom ever you would like. I thought this one was funny and I found it on my timeline on facebook and thought I would share it. But Obama wouldn't count because he wasn't old enough for the draft. LOL

Quoting beesbad:

As president of the United States and Commander in Chief is Obama a patriot? Is he a draft dodger? Or does this test only apply to conservative republicans?


CountryMomma123
by Member on Mar. 6, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Help who? You or me. Because I din't make this and just thought it was funny.

Quoting DestinyHLewis:

Might help if you knew what a draft dodger was. 


CountryMomma123
by Member on Mar. 7, 2013 at 12:04 AM

It may be ridiculous but I had no part in making it. I thought the damn thing was funny and decided to post it here to see what others thought. 

Quoting soonergirl980:


And I'm saying choosing to go to college over war is not an evil or bad thing and that person still has a right to support/have an opinion military actions. They are no different than anyone that chose to go to school instead of deploying to Afghanistan. In other words the "point" of the meme is ridiculous.

Quoting brookiecookie87:

I think you have misunderstood.

No one has said that they are void from having an opinion on war.

People were just pointing out what all these guys who favor war have in common-That they could not be part of it.


Quoting soonergirl980:

Lots of people where on college, medical, and religious deferments that does not forever void them of having an opinion on war.


Quoting brookiecookie87:

Again the point flies over your head.

There is a HUGE difference in someone who strongly supports war and hasn't served and someone who strongly supports wars but purposely avoids being drafted.

Do you understand the difference I am trying to point out?

Quoting soonergirl980:

Oh so you can't strongly support war or the military unless you youself have served? Frankly if they didn't want to serve then I'm glad they didn't. I don't like the draft, but that doesn't mean that you can't support military actions.


Quoting stacymomof2:

No, she is saying they are chickenhawks.

Quoting soonergirl980:

Are you saying you cannot be patriotic unless you serve?













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