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As Jesus Said About Gay People **Edit**

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by on Mar. 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM
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toomanypoodles
by Ruby Member on Mar. 10, 2013 at 11:17 PM

 Many of your questions can be answered here

http://bible.org/article/homosexuality-christian-perspective

lga1965
by Ruby Member on Mar. 10, 2013 at 11:20 PM
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Quoting MeAndTommyLee:

Finally some truth!  This is why many persons in the gay/lesbian community need to stop bashing religion and put the blame squarely on the individuals whom falsely and  fictitiously identify with Jesus in a manner which he NEVER preached yet  use as a  bases for their hatred.   I figured this out long, long, ago.........

 yup....me too.

It's not religion that is at fault. The people who interpret the Bible to satisfy their own personal agendas and are prejudiced and exclude are the ones to blame.

Emilytrademark
by Bronze Member on Mar. 10, 2013 at 11:23 PM
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Doesn't matter what Jesus did or didn't say about gay people - religion has no place in politics.

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toomanypoodles
by Ruby Member on Mar. 10, 2013 at 11:24 PM

 

Quoting lga1965:

 

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 The Christian belief is Jesus is God.

What does GOD say about it?

 Jesus is the SON of God, according to the Congregational and Methodist and Lutheran churches I have attended in my lifetime.

 How about you going to a Lutheran website and showing me some evidence of that one, iga.  My mother was Lutheran til she was 35, I went to Lutheran school...they teach the Trinity. 

lga1965
by Ruby Member on Mar. 10, 2013 at 11:26 PM

 Why should we believe Mike Benson and his biased interpretation of the Bible. ???? Jesus ( the SON of God) never condemned homosexuals.....

WHo is Mike Benson? Does he speak for all Christians? I think not.

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 

TheBible.net :: Morality & Ethics

Did Jesus Ever Condemn Homosexuality?
By Mike Benson
Click for printable version

Question: “Is there any place in the New Testament where Jesus actually condemned homosexuality? If so, I have not been able to find it. ...It seems to me that if the Savior didn’t say it was wrong, then neither should we.”

Answer: While it is true that there is no NT record of where Jesus explicitly stated that homosexuality is wrong, He did in fact condemn the behavior. A careful study of the Bible will bear this out. Please read the following Bible passages and then consider the questions which follow:

1. And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ “and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?’” (Matt. 19:4.)

Questions: What did Jesus say about God’s creative work? Did He make Adam and Joseph? Did He create male and male, or did He create male and female? According to this passage, what has been God’s plan for sexual union [one flesh] since the beginning of time? Was His plan for a male partner to be joined to another male partner, or was it for a husband to be united to his wife? According to this passage, is a man to cleave to his male partner, or to his spouse?

Consider: Since Jesus approved of His Father’s plan [i.e., one man, one woman, one flesh,] could we correctly say that Jesus condemned homosexuality?

2. “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” (John 5:46-47.)

Questions: What law was Jesus born under? What law did He live under? Answer: The Law of Moses (cf. Gal. 4:4.) Did Jesus endorse and follow the Law of Moses? What did the Law of Moses say about homosexuality? (Lev. 18:22; 20:13; Deut. 23:17.)

Consider: Since Jesus was born and lived under the Law of Moses, and since He endorsed the Law of Moses, and since the Law of Moses explicitly condemned homosexuality, then could we correctly say that Jesus also condemned it?

3. “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for he will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you” (John 16:12-15.)

Questions: What did Jesus say the Holy Spirit would do for the apostles? Answer: Guide them into all truth (v. 13.) When/as the Holy Spirit guided the apostles into all truth; would He speak on His own authority? Answer: No, He would speak on the authority of Christ (v. 14.) What did Jesus say the Holy Spirit would do in verse 14? Answer: “He (i.e., the Holy Spirit) will take of what is Mine (i.e., Christ’s) and declare it to you” (i.e., the apostles.)

Consider: Since 1) the apostles would be guided into all truth by the Holy Spirit, and since 2) the Holy Spirit would not speak on His own authority but instead would speak on the authority of Christ, and since 3) the Holy Spirit would take of what was Christ’s and declare it to the apostles, then by WHOSE AUTHORITY would the apostle’s speak/write/teach when the Holy Spirit guided them into all truth? Answer: Christ’s.

Question: What did the apostle Paul [by Christ’s authority] say about the practice of homosexuality? (Rom. 1:26-27; 1 Cor. 6:9-10.)

Yes, Jesus did condemn homosexuality in His Word. The good news is, “there is hope for the homosexual; he has reason to believe there is hope for a brighter future. Paul states that some at Corinth had engaged in homosexual acts, but they had been washed, sanctified and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus (1 Cor. 6:9-11.) The same can happen today. As anyone who repents of a sin, the homosexual can be forgiven. He can experience the same freedom and joy that any other sinner knows when he becomes a Christian. The Bible condemns homosexual sex but clearly states that non-practicing homosexuals can be saved” [Doug Sensing, “Christian Response To Homosexuality,” Gospel Advocate, April '93, Vol. CXXXV, No. 4, 12.]

 

muslimahpj
by Ruby Member on Mar. 10, 2013 at 11:29 PM
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Quoting toomanypoodles:

 

Quoting lga1965:

 

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 The Christian belief is Jesus is God.

What does GOD say about it?

 Jesus is the SON of God, according to the Congregational and Methodist and Lutheran churches I have attended in my lifetime.

 How about you going to a Lutheran website and showing me some evidence of that one, iga.  My mother was Lutheran til she was 35, I went to Lutheran school...they teach the Trinity. 

Poodles, all my years in church, we never believed that Jesus, pbuh, was god, astaghfirullah. They preached he was the son, not god himself. I never knew of christians that believed that UNTIL CM, and yes, those churches I grew up in preached the trinity, also.

toomanypoodles
by Ruby Member on Mar. 10, 2013 at 11:30 PM
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Quoting lga1965:

 

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 The Christian belief is Jesus is God.

What does GOD say about it?

 Jesus is the SON of God, according to the Congregational and Methodist and Lutheran churches I have attended in my lifetime.

 Here is what the website What Lutherans Believe states:

1. GOD

The God of the Bible is the only true God. He reveals Himself as Triune; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit – Three persons, one God. We agree with the ancient creeds of the Christian Church, which profess the Trinity.

http://splhs.org/Believe.html

lga1965
by Ruby Member on Mar. 10, 2013 at 11:35 PM
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 http://www.lutheranchurchinternational.org/aboutgod.html

What does the Lutheran Church-International teach about Jesus Christ?
In the Augsburg Confession Article III, Lutherans declare their belief that God the Son became man (cf John 1:1,4), was born of the Blessed Virgin Mary (cf. Isaiah 7:14, Luke 2:7), and that Jesus Christ was both fully man and fully divine, and those two natures cannot be separated. As recorded in the Holy Scriptures (1 Timothy 2:5, 1 Peter 3:18 -20, Galatians 3:13, Luke 24:39 and Mark 16:19) and confessed in the Ecumenical Creeds, we believe, teach, and confess that Jesus was born, lived, suffered, was crucified, died and was buried. Jesus descended into hell, and on the third day (Easter) rose from the dead. He then ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father, and will come in God's time to judge the living and the dead

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 

Quoting lga1965:

 

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 The Christian belief is Jesus is God.

What does GOD say about it?

 Jesus is the SON of God, according to the Congregational and Methodist and Lutheran churches I have attended in my lifetime.

 How about you going to a Lutheran website and showing me some evidence of that one, iga.  My mother was Lutheran til she was 35, I went to Lutheran school...they teach the Trinity. 

 

1Giovanni
by Becca on Mar. 10, 2013 at 11:37 PM
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As a Christian I believe that "Jesus is the son of God." THe Christian Chruchs I have gone to teaches that. I was actually suprise that people beleive that Jesus is God, here on CM.

Quoting toomanypoodles:

 The Christian belief is Jesus is God.

What does GOD say about it?


lga1965
by Ruby Member on Mar. 10, 2013 at 11:41 PM

The Methodist church:

 http://www.umc.org/site/c.lwL4KnN1LtH/b.2311273/

In trying to find words to express their faith in Jesus, the New Testament writers gave him various names. Jesus was Master, Rabbi, Teacher. He was the Way, the Truth, and the Life. He was the Doorway to the sheepfold, the Light of the world, the Prince of Peace, and more. In the church's long tradition, scores of other names or titles have been given. Let's look at five of the most central biblical names for Jesus:

Son of God

We believe in Jesus as God's special child. We call this the Incarnation, meaning that God was in the world in the actual person of Jesus of Nazareth. The Gospel writers explain this in different ways. In Mark, Jesus seems to be adopted as God's Son at his baptism. In Matthew and Luke, Jesus is conceived by the Holy Spirit. In John, Jesus is God's pre-existing Word who "became flesh and lived among us" (1:14). However this mystery occurred, we affirm that God is wholly present in Jesus Christ.

Son of man

Paradoxically, we also believe that Jesus was fully human. One of the church's first heresies claimed that Jesus only seemed to be human, that he was really a divine figure in disguise. But the early church rejected this. It affirmed that Jesus was a person in every sense that we are. He was tempted. He grew weary. He wept. He expressed his anger. In fact, Jesus is God's picture of what it means to be a mature human being

 

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