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Westboro Baptist Church Founder Fred Phelps May Be Gay, Suggests Former Member Lauren Drain

Posted by on Mar. 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM
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A former member of the Westboro Baptist Church who recently published a book about leaving the hate-mongering group has also revealed that founder Fred Phelps's anti-gay ideology may have spawned from a gay experience.

Lauren Drain, 27, was a member of the Topeka, Kan., congregation until she challenged the group's beliefs and had to leave. She sat down this week with the Advocate to discuss her book and her journey from follower to free.

Drain suggested to the Advocate that founder Fred Phelps might have formed the Westboro Baptist Church and begun his anti-gay crusade because of a gay experience. He was a Boy Scout who graduated with honors and was headed for the military, she said. Then, at 17, Phelps changed his mind and was suddenly set on becoming a preacher to fight against "sexual immorality."

Via the Advocate:

I never understood why, when [the media asked him], “Why are you so against the homosexuals? Did you have a homosexual experience? Do you have homosexual tendencies?” And he would get so mad, he would shut down. And he’d be like, “I can’t talk to this person anymore, they’re stupid.” His reaction to that was stronger than any other question you can ask him. So I always wondered that — why does he get so mad? If I’m not gay, I’ll just say I’m not gay. And I’m not going to freak out, like, “Why are you calling me gay?” I always thought that was super strange. … I don’t know what happened there, so [speculation] is all that I can leave it at. But something happened, and something made him change his mind about the military, and in turn have kind of a crusade against sexual immorality and homosexuals.

Not only did she leave Westboro, but Drain also has become an advocate for gay rights and anti-bullying. In February, she posed for the NOH8 campaign, a movement that promotes equality.

"I don't think anyone should judge or persecute another human being or any group of individuals based off of those personal, chosen, beliefs," she told NOH8. "I am against any and all forms of violence, discrimination, bullying or bigotry directed at someone else due to their personal lifestyle."

March 5 saw the release of Drain's book, Banished: Surviving My Years in the Westboro Baptist Church, in which she describes how she grew up with Westboro during her formative years, after her father developed an obsession with the group and moved his family from Florida to Kansas.

During a reddit "Ask Me Anything" session last month, one commentator asked Drain, "Do you think Fred Phelps is gay? If not, how do you explain his extreme interest in homosexuality?" She didn't answer the question at the time, but she did say Phelps has managed to brainwash his followers so much that they believe the hate just as staunchly as he does.

"I don't think Fred Phelps becoming incapable would be the reason the church would collapse," she said when asked if Westboro may crumble after the 83-year-old dies. "I tend to think it is disintegrating as more and more members question things and get kicked out or leave. The brainwashing is so deep that the second and third generation believe just a strongly as the Pastor himself."

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ethans_momma06
by on Mar. 16, 2013 at 11:46 AM

As much as I truly loathe and despise that group....

That's really nothing more than speculation and rumor. She's guessing why he may be having a stronger emotional reaction. It's a guess about feelings.

Which makes it worthless.

Woodbabe
by Woodie on Mar. 16, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I wonder if it was his recruiter :)

May explain his hatred of the military as well!

NewMom11222011
by Bronze Member on Mar. 16, 2013 at 11:52 AM
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Wouldn't surprise me.  It's the human tendency to hate in others that which we have within ourselves (whether or not we know or acknowledge it).

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annabl1970
by Platinum Member on Mar. 16, 2013 at 11:53 AM

 

Could be

Quoting Woodbabe:

I wonder if it was his recruiter :)

May explain his hatred of the military as well!


 

carlyshort
by on Mar. 16, 2013 at 11:54 AM
Even so, if it did happen I don't think it's reason to hate. Sounds like she wants people in a way to feel bad for him.
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Veni.Vidi.Vici.
by on Mar. 16, 2013 at 11:56 AM

funny to read, but the supposition is a little to far fetched for me to accept it might be true

justinnaimee
by Bronze Member on Mar. 16, 2013 at 11:58 AM
My thoughts exactly. Usually the most vocal anti- anything are pretty self loathing for that exact reason.

Quoting NewMom11222011:

Wouldn't surprise me.  It's the human tendency to hate in others that which we have within ourselves (whether or not we know or acknowledge it).

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annabl1970
by Platinum Member on Mar. 16, 2013 at 12:00 PM

 

“Most hatred is based on fear, one way or another. Yeah. I wrapped myself in anger, with a dash of hate, and at the bottom of it all was an icy center of pure terror.”

Laurell K. Hamilton

Quoting NewMom11222011:

Wouldn't surprise me.  It's the human tendency to hate in others that which we have within ourselves (whether or not we know or acknowledge it).


 

lga1965
by on Mar. 16, 2013 at 12:11 PM

 

Quoting ethans_momma06:

As much as I truly loathe and despise that group....

That's really nothing more than speculation and rumor. She's guessing why he may be having a stronger emotional reaction. It's a guess about feelings.

Which makes it worthless.

People "...protest too much". They are violently against something that they are tryingto hide...READ:

 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=thou%20doth%20protest%20too%20much

Hamlet's mother, Gertrude, is famous for her quote "The lady doth protest too much, methinks". Gertrude's Law states that if a person is overly passionate about condemning a certain lifestyle choice, they most likely engage in that lifestyle secretly. Some notable examples are Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Haggard, and most recently Arifinto, an Indonesian MP who helped pass an anti-pornography law. He was later photographed looking at porn on his iPad during a parliamentary debate.
That family values preacher just got caught at a glory hole. It looks like further proof of Gertrude's Law.
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