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I was just looking through some old posts...remember all the outrage about the ICC in New York?  The one in Tennessee?  Temecula, CA?  Sheboygan, WI?

All these were built and opened quietly after all that controversy.  Now that it is over, do the people who were so outraged by it feel as though they were played?  Like they were led to their outrage, and the flames were fanned by people with an agenda, and now that it's over it's like it never happened.

Do you feel like people were played with these fake "controversies?"  Of course it isn't controversial to build a place of worship on land you own, with the proper zoning.  Do those of you who were against it feel differently now?

by on Mar. 19, 2013 at 5:55 PM
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stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Mar. 19, 2013 at 6:45 PM

It's true.  The latest political talking points will be released and everyone spreads the word for them.  I hate being manipulated!

Quoting smalltowngal:

I will be talking to my Mom and I will hear her mention something that is already on here and I always ask if she's been watching Fox News again. There are also stories on the left side too which will be the story to be upset about. 

Quoting stacymomof2:

Sometimes I feel like there is a new outrage that lost of people jump on, and then suddenly it disappears and no one ever mentions it again...something that people were really really over the top about just drops out of style, never to be heard again.

Quoting Healthystart30:

I seriously doubt that those people are going to come in here and admit they were wrong. Most of them are probably being hateful in some other posts.





Sekirei
by Nari Trickster on Mar. 19, 2013 at 6:48 PM
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They are handing out the evil cookies to get everyone to agree.. didn't you know that???


:3

I am happy about this though. May open some more minds

stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Mar. 19, 2013 at 6:48 PM
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Right.  And if it is true outrage, people don't forget.  And how did this start?  Media coverage of fake news.

Quoting joyfree:

I think when the media outlets stopped pushing the issue, people forgot about it.


soonergirl980
by Silver Member on Mar. 19, 2013 at 6:51 PM


No I think that building a Islamic center a stones throw from where a radical Islamic sect killed thousands of Americans by a person that said while we didn't "deserve 9/11" "but we were an "accessory" to it, by someone who expects tolerance but refuses to be tolerant  is kind of bad taste but that's just me. Do you support Park51 knowing they fought against a gay bar who welcomed Islamic gays being built next to it? How hypocritical is that. You must tolerate our building to be built in an arguabaly insensitive area, you must not offend our "sensibilities" by building a gar bar next to it.

Quoting stacymomof2:

Oh I remember the argument.  However that only makes sense if the people who committed the murders at the world trade center were the ones who were building the mosque.

I think they were manipulated for the 2010 elections, and I think they fell for it.  

Quoting soonergirl980:

I think people truely felt the one in New York was being insensitive to the tragedy that happened there by their location. I don't think it was "fake".




smalltowngal
by Platinum Member on Mar. 19, 2013 at 6:55 PM


I do too. I try and post alternative news stories but they don't get much attention or I seem to upset one side or the other. 

Quoting stacymomof2:

It's true.  The latest political talking points will be released and everyone spreads the word for them.  I hate being manipulated!

Quoting smalltowngal:

I will be talking to my Mom and I will hear her mention something that is already on here and I always ask if she's been watching Fox News again. There are also stories on the left side too which will be the story to be upset about. 

Quoting stacymomof2:

Sometimes I feel like there is a new outrage that lost of people jump on, and then suddenly it disappears and no one ever mentions it again...something that people were really really over the top about just drops out of style, never to be heard again.







stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Mar. 19, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Ah.  So you were one of them.

So, now what?  Where is your outrage now?

They "fought against a gay bar"?  Are you sure about that?  Because I don't think they did...I think some yahoo tried to get in their face by opening a gar bar that caters to Muslim homosexuals.  I don't remember them commenting about it.  Got a link?

Yes I am aware that Muslims believe homosexuality is a sin.  But unless the actually protested this guy's bar I'm gonna call bullshit on the comparison.

Quoting soonergirl980:


No I think that building a Islamic center a stones throw from where a radical Islamic sect killed thousands of Americans by a person that said while we didn't "deserve 9/11" "but we were an "accessory" to it, by someone who expects tolerance but refuses to be tolerant  is kind of bad taste but that's just me. Do you support Park51 knowing they fought against a gay bar who welcomed Islamic gays being built next to it? How hypocritical is that. You must tolerate our building to be built in an arguabaly insensitive area, you must not offend our "sensibilities" by building a gar bar next to it.

Quoting stacymomof2:

Oh I remember the argument.  However that only makes sense if the people who committed the murders at the world trade center were the ones who were building the mosque.

I think they were manipulated for the 2010 elections, and I think they fell for it.  

Quoting soonergirl980:

I think people truely felt the one in New York was being insensitive to the tragedy that happened there by their location. I don't think it was "fake".





stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Mar. 19, 2013 at 7:21 PM

lol, I have the same problem when I post something political.  It's gotta have a hook or no one pays attention!  I'll make a point of reading yours now, though.  God forbid there is a balanced, non-sensational bit of info available.  lol

Quoting smalltowngal:


I do too. I try and post alternative news stories but they don't get much attention or I seem to upset one side or the other. 

Quoting stacymomof2:

It's true.  The latest political talking points will be released and everyone spreads the word for them.  I hate being manipulated!

Quoting smalltowngal:

I will be talking to my Mom and I will hear her mention something that is already on here and I always ask if she's been watching Fox News again. There are also stories on the left side too which will be the story to be upset about. 

Quoting stacymomof2:

Sometimes I feel like there is a new outrage that lost of people jump on, and then suddenly it disappears and no one ever mentions it again...something that people were really really over the top about just drops out of style, never to be heard again.








Della529
by Matlock on Mar. 19, 2013 at 7:37 PM

 Lol, Stacy.

Fox News Host Wants to Open Gay Bar Next to Ground Zero Mosque

Fox's Greg Gutfield says the bar will cater to Muslim gay men

Quoting stacymomof2:

Ah.  So you were one of them.

So, now what?  Where is your outrage now?

They "fought against a gay bar"?  Are you sure about that?  Because I don't think they did...I think some yahoo tried to get in their face by opening a gar bar that caters to Muslim homosexuals.  I don't remember them commenting about it.  Got a link?

Yes I am aware that Muslims believe homosexuality is a sin.  But unless the actually protested this guy's bar I'm gonna call bullshit on the comparison.

Quoting soonergirl980:

 

No I think that building a Islamic center a stones throw from where a radical Islamic sect killed thousands of Americans by a person that said while we didn't "deserve 9/11" "but we were an "accessory" to it, by someone who expects tolerance but refuses to be tolerant  is kind of bad taste but that's just me. Do you support Park51 knowing they fought against a gay bar who welcomed Islamic gays being built next to it? How hypocritical is that. You must tolerate our building to be built in an arguabaly insensitive area, you must not offend our "sensibilities" by building a gar bar next to it.

Quoting stacymomof2:

Oh I remember the argument.  However that only makes sense if the people who committed the murders at the world trade center were the ones who were building the mosque.

I think they were manipulated for the 2010 elections, and I think they fell for it.  

Quoting soonergirl980:

I think people truely felt the one in New York was being insensitive to the tragedy that happened there by their location. I don't think it was "fake".


 

 


 

stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Mar. 19, 2013 at 7:44 PM
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It was a Fox News host?  Figures, lol.

From the link:

The Muslim American Society also questioned Gutfield's intent.  "Any mosque that's built in America is not built with the idea of having contentious or hostile relations with any other community around it," Human and Civil Rights program director Ibrahim Ramey told NBCNewYork. "We have our own faith and our own values but we certainly aren't going to attack other people even though they have values and orientations that are not necessarily of our faith and our religion."

"It's a free country...if [Gutfield] wanted to do that it would suggest that the idea of this location being some kind of quote-unquote sacred space...is obviously not true." Ramey added that "We doubt very seriously that the proposed initiative would have any direct connection with or patronage from people attending the mosque."


OOOOOO they were so fighting against it.

I think it's odd that the thing some people remember is that Muslims fought against it, even though that isn't true, rather than this guy's pointed baiting.  And yes, he was baiting, he SAID it was to bother them.

Quoting Della529:

 Lol, Stacy.

Fox News Host Wants to Open Gay Bar Next to Ground Zero Mosque

Fox's Greg Gutfield says the bar will cater to Muslim gay men

Quoting stacymomof2:

Ah.  So you were one of them.

So, now what?  Where is your outrage now?

They "fought against a gay bar"?  Are you sure about that?  Because I don't think they did...I think some yahoo tried to get in their face by opening a gar bar that caters to Muslim homosexuals.  I don't remember them commenting about it.  Got a link?

Yes I am aware that Muslims believe homosexuality is a sin.  But unless the actually protested this guy's bar I'm gonna call bullshit on the comparison.

Quoting soonergirl980:


No I think that building a Islamic center a stones throw from where a radical Islamic sect killed thousands of Americans by a person that said while we didn't "deserve 9/11" "but we were an "accessory" to it, by someone who expects tolerance but refuses to be tolerant  is kind of bad taste but that's just me. Do you support Park51 knowing they fought against a gay bar who welcomed Islamic gays being built next to it? How hypocritical is that. You must tolerate our building to be built in an arguabaly insensitive area, you must not offend our "sensibilities" by building a gar bar next to it.

Quoting stacymomof2:

Oh I remember the argument.  However that only makes sense if the people who committed the murders at the world trade center were the ones who were building the mosque.

I think they were manipulated for the 2010 elections, and I think they fell for it.  

Quoting soonergirl980:

I think people truely felt the one in New York was being insensitive to the tragedy that happened there by their location. I don't think it was "fake".





 


krysstizzle
by on Mar. 19, 2013 at 7:47 PM

That argument didn't fly then and it doesn't fly now. 

If, however, folks were equally upset about building a church anywhere near a place where any Christian committed an atrocity, then their personal argument would at least be consistent - even if it doesn't hold up generally.

Quoting soonergirl980:


No I think that building a Islamic center a stones throw from where a radical Islamic sect killed thousands of Americans by a person that said while we didn't "deserve 9/11" "but we were an "accessory" to it, by someone who expects tolerance but refuses to be tolerant  is kind of bad taste but that's just me. Do you support Park51 knowing they fought against a gay bar who welcomed Islamic gays being built next to it? How hypocritical is that. You must tolerate our building to be built in an arguabaly insensitive area, you must not offend our "sensibilities" by building a gar bar next to it.

Quoting stacymomof2:

Oh I remember the argument.  However that only makes sense if the people who committed the murders at the world trade center were the ones who were building the mosque.

I think they were manipulated for the 2010 elections, and I think they fell for it.  

Quoting soonergirl980:

I think people truely felt the one in New York was being insensitive to the tragedy that happened there by their location. I don't think it was "fake".





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