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Family’s Home Raided over Facebook Photo of Child’s Rifle

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By Todd Starnes

New Jersey police and Dept. of Children and Families officials raided the home of a firearms instructor and demanded to see his guns after he posted a Facebook photo of his 11-year-old son holding a rifle.

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“Someone called family services about the photo,” said Evan Nappen, an attorney representing Shawn Moore. “It led to an incredible, heavy-handed raid on his house. They wanted to see his gun safe, his guns and search his house. They even threatened to take his kids.”

Moore was not arrested or charged.

This is the Facebook photo that led to the police raid.

This is the Facebook photo that led to the police raid.

A Dept. of Children and Families spokesperson told Fox News they could not confirm or deny an investigation or raid had taken place due to government regulations.

“The department has a child abuse hotline for the state of New Jersey and anybody can make a call to that hotline,” spokesperson Kristen Brown said. “We are required to follow up on every single allegation that comes into the central registry.”

Moore, of Carneys Point, is a certified firearms instructor for the National Rifle Association, an NRA range safety officer and a New Jersey hunter education instructor.

He recently posted a photograph of his son wearing camouflage and holding his new .22 rifle. The child has a New Jersey hunting license and recently passed the state’s hunter safety course.

“If you look at the picture, his finger isn’t even on the trigger – which is proper,” Nappen told Fox News. “If half of Hollywood could follow that rule we’d be thankful.”

Brown said their role is not to go out and search Facebook for photos of children holding weapons.

“In general our role is to investigate allegations of child abuse and neglect,” she said.

The family’s trouble started Saturday night when Moore received an urgent text message from his wife. The Carneys Point Police Dept. and the New Jersey Dept. of Children and Families had raided their home.

Moore immediately called Nappen and rushed home to find officers demanding to check his guns and his gun safe.

Instead, he handed the cell phone to one of the officers – so they could speak with Nappen.

“If you have a warrant, you’re coming in,” Nappen told the officers. “If you don’t, then you’re not. That’s what privacy is all about.”

With his attorney on speaker phone, Moore instructed the officers to leave his home.

“I was told I was being unreasonable and that I was acting suspicious because I wouldn’t open my safe,” Moore wrote on the Delaware Open Carry website. “They told me they were going to get a search warrant. I told them to go ahead.”

Moore took this photo of police outside his home.

Moore took this photo of police outside his home.

Nappen told Fox News the police wanted to inventory his firearms.

“”We said no way, it’s not happening,” he said. “This is a guy who is completely credentialed and his son is also credentialed.”

The attorney said police eventually left and never returned.

“He has a Fourth Amendment right and he’s not going to give up his Fourth Amendment right or his Second Amendment right,” he said. “They didn’t have a warrant – so see you later.”

Brown told Fox News that it’s “prudent and wise to protect children.”

“In many cases we may follow up on something and we don’t find any problems and the case is closed,” she said.

But the person who reported the false allegations of abuse cannot be held liable, she noted.

“You can’t be prosecuted for making an allegation of child abuse –even if it’s false,” she said.

Nappen said what happened to the Moore family should serve as a warning to gun owners across the nation.

“To make someone go through this because he posted a picture of his son with a .22 rifle on his Facebook page is pretty outrageous,” he said. “Does that mean that anyone who posts a picture like that has to consent to a home inspection and a gun inspection? I don’t think so.”

Nappen said they are considering taking legal action against the state for the late night raid.


by on Mar. 20, 2013 at 10:36 AM
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pamelax3
by Gold Member on Mar. 20, 2013 at 11:45 AM
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Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:


Quoting pamelax3:

 

 

Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:


Quoting pamelax3:

This is just plain stupid..What an awful thing to do to a family and child..

Had this ended differently I could agree. I think the message was loud and clear: Be responsible and you have nothing to worry about.

What do you mean, ended differently? The man and the boy are being responsible with their gun and they still got crap from the police

 

Okay, so they were investigated. What harm came from it besides a bit of an inconvenience?


Nappen told Fox News the police wanted to inventory his firearms.

“”We said no way, it’s not happening,” he said. “This is a guy who is completely credentialed and his son is also credentialed.”

The attorney said police eventually left and never returned.

“He has a Fourth Amendment right and he’s not going to give up his Fourth Amendment right or his Second Amendment right,” he said. “They didn’t have a warrant – so see you later.”

Brown told Fox News that it’s “prudent and wise to protect children.”

Too me the problem is this poor guy had to get his attorney to tell the police & CPS to go away, they obviously knew he & his son were legal and responsible gun owners, IMO one officer would have been sufficient if needed at all

 

Veni.Vidi.Vici.
by on Mar. 20, 2013 at 11:46 AM


Quoting pamelax3:



Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:


Quoting pamelax3:



Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:


Quoting pamelax3:

This is just plain stupid..What an awful thing to do to a family and child..

Had this ended differently I could agree. I think the message was loud and clear: Be responsible and you have nothing to worry about.

What do you mean, ended differently? The man and the boy are being responsible with their gun and they still got crap from the police


Okay, so they were investigated. What harm came from it besides a bit of an inconvenience?


Nappen told Fox News the police wanted to inventory his firearms.

“”We said no way, it’s not happening,” he said. “This is a guy who is completely credentialed and his son is also credentialed.”

The attorney said police eventually left and never returned.

“He has a Fourth Amendment right and he’s not going to give up his Fourth Amendment right or his Second Amendment right,” he said. “They didn’t have a warrant – so see you later.”

Brown told Fox News that it’s “prudent and wise to protect children.”

Too me the problem is this poor guy had to get his attorney to tell the police & CPS to go away, they obviously knew he & his son were legal and responsible gun owners, IMO one officer would have been sufficient if needed at all


I get what you're saying. I really do. I would be seething. I wouldn't sue, though.

edelweiss23
by on Mar. 20, 2013 at 11:50 AM
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The person who called the tip in probably over embellished the story and made it seem like kids were playing with guns unsupervised.

My husband is a firearms instructor as well and he would have done the same thing as the gentleman in the story.

We both have concealed carry licenses

I suppose I won't post a pic of my daughter with her pink .22 that we got her for Xmas.
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NWP
by guerrilla girl on Mar. 20, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Wow....
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lga1965
by on Mar. 20, 2013 at 11:51 AM

 This might be  little extreme but seeing as how people are getting crazy and buying more guns and there is an epidemic of shootings,I can see why they went to the home. The kid is wearing military style camouflage.....I know, it's the fad,  makes him feel real macho. Ugh.That is a big honkin' gun.

People put such inappropriate photos on Facebook. It is getting to be a joke and embarasssing to admit you have a Facebook account.

pamelax3
by Gold Member on Mar. 20, 2013 at 11:54 AM

 


Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:


Quoting pamelax3:

 

 

Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:


Quoting pamelax3:

 

 

Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:


Quoting pamelax3:

This is just plain stupid..What an awful thing to do to a family and child..

Had this ended differently I could agree. I think the message was loud and clear: Be responsible and you have nothing to worry about.

What do you mean, ended differently? The man and the boy are being responsible with their gun and they still got crap from the police

 

Okay, so they were investigated. What harm came from it besides a bit of an inconvenience?


Nappen told Fox News the police wanted to inventory his firearms.

“”We said no way, it’s not happening,” he said. “This is a guy who is completely credentialed and his son is also credentialed.”

The attorney said police eventually left and never returned.

“He has a Fourth Amendment right and he’s not going to give up his Fourth Amendment right or his Second Amendment right,” he said. “They didn’t have a warrant – so see you later.”

Brown told Fox News that it’s “prudent and wise to protect children.”

Too me the problem is this poor guy had to get his attorney to tell the police & CPS to go away, they obviously knew he & his son were legal and responsible gun owners, IMO one officer would have been sufficient if needed at all

 

I get what you're saying. I really do. I would be seething. I wouldn't sue, though.

I am not sure if I would sue or not!

 

Woodbabe
by Woodie on Mar. 20, 2013 at 11:55 AM
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The gun is a .22...it barely goes pew pew. The fact that these trained and legally licenced gun owners are being hunted down and harassed is pretty scary. All because someone was offended.

Quoting lga1965:

 This might be  little extreme but seeing as how people are getting crazy and buying more guns and there is an epidemic of shootings,I can see why they went to the home. The kid is wearing military style camouflage.....I know, it's the fad,  makes him feel real macho. Ugh.That is a big honkin' gun.

People put such inappropriate photos on Facebook. It is getting to be a joke and embarrassing to admit you have a Facebook account.


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talia-mom
by Gold Member on Mar. 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM
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That is a big gun?

Pure ignorance.


Quoting lga1965:

 This might be  little extreme but seeing as how people are getting crazy and buying more guns and there is an epidemic of shootings,I can see why they went to the home. The kid is wearing military style camouflage.....I know, it's the fad,  makes him feel real macho. Ugh.That is a big honkin' gun.


People put such inappropriate photos on Facebook. It is getting to be a joke and embarasssing to admit you have a Facebook account.


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LindaClement
by Thatwoman on Mar. 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM

That's a .22?

pamelax3
by Gold Member on Mar. 20, 2013 at 12:02 PM

 Military style camouflage? It is a kid, nothing more I doubt macho comes into the equation..


Quoting lga1965:

 This might be  little extreme but seeing as how people are getting crazy and buying more guns and there is an epidemic of shootings,I can see why they went to the home. The kid is wearing military style camouflage.....I know, it's the fad,  makes him feel real macho. Ugh.That is a big honkin' gun.

People put such inappropriate photos on Facebook. It is getting to be a joke and embarasssing to admit you have a Facebook account.


 

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