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Family’s Home Raided over Facebook Photo of Child’s Rifle

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By Todd Starnes

New Jersey police and Dept. of Children and Families officials raided the home of a firearms instructor and demanded to see his guns after he posted a Facebook photo of his 11-year-old son holding a rifle.

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“Someone called family services about the photo,” said Evan Nappen, an attorney representing Shawn Moore. “It led to an incredible, heavy-handed raid on his house. They wanted to see his gun safe, his guns and search his house. They even threatened to take his kids.”

Moore was not arrested or charged.

This is the Facebook photo that led to the police raid.

This is the Facebook photo that led to the police raid.

A Dept. of Children and Families spokesperson told Fox News they could not confirm or deny an investigation or raid had taken place due to government regulations.

“The department has a child abuse hotline for the state of New Jersey and anybody can make a call to that hotline,” spokesperson Kristen Brown said. “We are required to follow up on every single allegation that comes into the central registry.”

Moore, of Carneys Point, is a certified firearms instructor for the National Rifle Association, an NRA range safety officer and a New Jersey hunter education instructor.

He recently posted a photograph of his son wearing camouflage and holding his new .22 rifle. The child has a New Jersey hunting license and recently passed the state’s hunter safety course.

“If you look at the picture, his finger isn’t even on the trigger – which is proper,” Nappen told Fox News. “If half of Hollywood could follow that rule we’d be thankful.”

Brown said their role is not to go out and search Facebook for photos of children holding weapons.

“In general our role is to investigate allegations of child abuse and neglect,” she said.

The family’s trouble started Saturday night when Moore received an urgent text message from his wife. The Carneys Point Police Dept. and the New Jersey Dept. of Children and Families had raided their home.

Moore immediately called Nappen and rushed home to find officers demanding to check his guns and his gun safe.

Instead, he handed the cell phone to one of the officers – so they could speak with Nappen.

“If you have a warrant, you’re coming in,” Nappen told the officers. “If you don’t, then you’re not. That’s what privacy is all about.”

With his attorney on speaker phone, Moore instructed the officers to leave his home.

“I was told I was being unreasonable and that I was acting suspicious because I wouldn’t open my safe,” Moore wrote on the Delaware Open Carry website. “They told me they were going to get a search warrant. I told them to go ahead.”

Moore took this photo of police outside his home.

Moore took this photo of police outside his home.

Nappen told Fox News the police wanted to inventory his firearms.

“”We said no way, it’s not happening,” he said. “This is a guy who is completely credentialed and his son is also credentialed.”

The attorney said police eventually left and never returned.

“He has a Fourth Amendment right and he’s not going to give up his Fourth Amendment right or his Second Amendment right,” he said. “They didn’t have a warrant – so see you later.”

Brown told Fox News that it’s “prudent and wise to protect children.”

“In many cases we may follow up on something and we don’t find any problems and the case is closed,” she said.

But the person who reported the false allegations of abuse cannot be held liable, she noted.

“You can’t be prosecuted for making an allegation of child abuse –even if it’s false,” she said.

Nappen said what happened to the Moore family should serve as a warning to gun owners across the nation.

“To make someone go through this because he posted a picture of his son with a .22 rifle on his Facebook page is pretty outrageous,” he said. “Does that mean that anyone who posts a picture like that has to consent to a home inspection and a gun inspection? I don’t think so.”

Nappen said they are considering taking legal action against the state for the late night raid.


by on Mar. 20, 2013 at 10:36 AM
Replies (41-50):
Woodbabe
by Woodie on Mar. 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM
1 mom liked this

I know, right? Someone who can actually respect differences and choices of someone I may not agree with? Hard to find these days!

Quoting LindaClement:

Weird.

Quoting Woodbabe:

NO idea...I don't judge as long as its legal and he's licensed and trained and supervised. None of my business.

Quoting LindaClement:

What advantage is there to a .22 that looks like an Uzi?

Quoting Woodbabe:


Quoting LindaClement:

That's a .22?

He recently posted a photograph of his son wearing camouflage and holding his new .22 rifle. The child has a New Jersey hunting license and recently passed the state’s hunter safety course.





 Sexy If its unladylike, fattening or fun, I'm in!
  

Woodbabe
by Woodie on Mar. 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Yes its bled over from the military, but the military doesn't wear the other kind anymore.

Quoting LindaClement:

There's digital hunter camo, too... at least up here.

Quoting Woodbabe:

Here's military...the blobs are really used anymore!

Quoting lga1965:

 This might be  little extreme but seeing as how people are getting crazy and buying more guns and there is an epidemic of shootings,I can see why they went to the home. The kid is wearing military style camouflage.....I know, it's the fad,  makes him feel real macho. Ugh.That is a big honkin' gun.

People put such inappropriate photos on Facebook. It is getting to be a joke and embarasssing to admit you have a Facebook account.




 Sexy If its unladylike, fattening or fun, I'm in!
  

LindaClement
by Thatwoman on Mar. 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM
1 mom liked this

You're never going to fit in.

Quoting Woodbabe:

I know, right? Someone who can actually respect differences and choices of someone I may not agree with? Hard to find these days!

Quoting LindaClement:

Weird.

Quoting Woodbabe:

NO idea...I don't judge as long as its legal and he's licensed and trained and supervised. None of my business.

Quoting LindaClement:

What advantage is there to a .22 that looks like an Uzi?

Quoting Woodbabe:


Quoting LindaClement:

That's a .22?

He recently posted a photograph of his son wearing camouflage and holding his new .22 rifle. The child has a New Jersey hunting license and recently passed the state’s hunter safety course.






futureshock
by Ruby Member on Mar. 20, 2013 at 12:15 PM
2 moms liked this

Maybe this should change in some way?

But the person who reported the false allegations of abuse cannot be held liable, she noted.

“You can’t be prosecuted for making an allegation of child abuse –even if it’s false,” she said.

Woodbabe
by Woodie on Mar. 20, 2013 at 12:15 PM
1 mom liked this

*hangs head* I know. I'll never get into the Mean Girls Cool Kids Club....

Quoting LindaClement:

You're never going to fit in.

Quoting Woodbabe:

I know, right? Someone who can actually respect differences and choices of someone I may not agree with? Hard to find these days!

Quoting LindaClement:

Weird.

Quoting Woodbabe:

NO idea...I don't judge as long as its legal and he's licensed and trained and supervised. None of my business.

Quoting LindaClement:

What advantage is there to a .22 that looks like an Uzi?

Quoting Woodbabe:


Quoting LindaClement:

That's a .22?

He recently posted a photograph of his son wearing camouflage and holding his new .22 rifle. The child has a New Jersey hunting license and recently passed the state’s hunter safety course.







 Sexy If its unladylike, fattening or fun, I'm in!
  

Woodbabe
by Woodie on Mar. 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM


Quoting futureshock:

Maybe this should change in some way?

But the person who reported the false allegations of abuse cannot be held liable, she noted.

“You can’t be prosecuted for making an allegation of child abuse –even if it’s false,” she said.

Seems like it would fall under libel or slander, shouldn't it?

 Sexy If its unladylike, fattening or fun, I'm in!
  

StarryRain
by Member on Mar. 20, 2013 at 12:20 PM
It isn't the same every where. I know for a fact that you can press charges or the state will itself sometimes, for numerous false allegations or serious enough ones. At least here in Michigan.

Quoting futureshock:

Maybe this should change in some way?

But the person who reported the false allegations of abuse cannot be held liable, she noted.

“You can’t be prosecuted for making an allegation of child abuse –even if it’s false,” she said.

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LindaClement
by Thatwoman on Mar. 20, 2013 at 12:21 PM
1 mom liked this

We call the green stuff 'relish' :D

Quoting Woodbabe:

Yes its bled over from the military, but the military doesn't wear the other kind anymore.

Quoting LindaClement:

There's digital hunter camo, too... at least up here.

Quoting Woodbabe:

Here's military...the blobs are really used anymore!

Quoting lga1965:

 This might be  little extreme but seeing as how people are getting crazy and buying more guns and there is an epidemic of shootings,I can see why they went to the home. The kid is wearing military style camouflage.....I know, it's the fad,  makes him feel real macho. Ugh.That is a big honkin' gun.

People put such inappropriate photos on Facebook. It is getting to be a joke and embarasssing to admit you have a Facebook account.





LindaClement
by Thatwoman on Mar. 20, 2013 at 12:22 PM
1 mom liked this

Ah, sadness...

... maybe there's a group you could join for that :D

Quoting Woodbabe:

*hangs head* I know. I'll never get into the Mean Girls Cool Kids Club....

Quoting LindaClement:

You're never going to fit in.

Quoting Woodbabe:

I know, right? Someone who can actually respect differences and choices of someone I may not agree with? Hard to find these days!

Quoting LindaClement:

Weird.

Quoting Woodbabe:

NO idea...I don't judge as long as its legal and he's licensed and trained and supervised. None of my business.

Quoting LindaClement:

What advantage is there to a .22 that looks like an Uzi?

Quoting Woodbabe:


Quoting LindaClement:

That's a .22?

He recently posted a photograph of his son wearing camouflage and holding his new .22 rifle. The child has a New Jersey hunting license and recently passed the state’s hunter safety course.








romanceparty4u
by Bronze Member on Mar. 20, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Secretly wishes that people thought before they posted certain things on facebook. I don't post my political status, my religious convictions, or my "heat packing status" on social network sites. Because I don't want people in my business. Facebook can be a very realistic look inside of the lives and personalities of others.

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