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Why even atheists love Pope Francis

Even now, he prefers the bus

Never mind all the guff: it is a rare thing indeed for atheists and agnostics to be genuinely impressed and inspired by religious leaders. Speaking personally – as a man who is but two drinks short of atheism – although I try to view such leaders with respect, the reasons informing my lack of faith temper the depth of my admiration.

Traditionally, only the Dalai Lama, with his peculiar brand of cuddles, giggles and Gucci, has attracted such widespread acclaim. However, in the brief time since his selection, Pope Francis has attracted a remarkable level of affection from both the faithful and the faithless. Attacks from the Guardian and others have largely failed to stick; instead, the Pope has received a remarkable amount of accolades from a wide variety of sources.

It is all relative, of course. Francis's position on the Falklands has seriously irritated Britons – as the possible inauguration snub by our Royals and officials indicated – and campaigners for gay rights remain sceptical. But on the whole, in a short period of time he has become unusually well regarded, especially given the general unpopularity of the Catholic Church.

The reason is simple. This is a man who pays his own hotel bills, travels by bus and jeep, wades out into the crowds unguarded, and makes his own telephone calls. (Yesterday, he telephoned the main number of a Jesuit residence in Rome. The receptionist, upon hearing the identity of the caller, responded "yeah, and I'm Napoleon".) This might seem like no great shakes, but given the luxury normally showered upon his office, it takes guts.

In other words, whatever one may think of his views, the Pope has genuine humility. This is such an unusual quality these days that it is like a beacon, outshining our reservations about him. Indeed, the term "Jesuit", formerly associated with tyrannical school regimes and sadism in the public imagination, has started to be rehabilitated.

False humility can be spotted a mile off, of course, and we are all used to doing that. But Pope Francis has proved that authentic humility can be just as immediately visible. This most straightforward of qualities has been absent from public life for so long that we have almost forgotten it were possible. If our politicians had a bit of this to offer, the world would be a very different place.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jakewallissimons/100207974/why-even-atheists-love-pope-francis/

by on Mar. 20, 2013 at 7:36 PM
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Euphoric
by Bazinga! on Mar. 20, 2013 at 9:01 PM

 

Quoting LavenderMom23:

I doubt atheists are impressed bc Pope Francis is already quoted saying if you don't have a good prayer life, you worship the Devil. Don't know any praying atheists.

 Ick, he said that?

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blondekosmic15
by on Mar. 20, 2013 at 9:08 PM
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Quoting Sekirei:

Sorry, same ratzinger views... just in a shiney new package. (well, newer) I would be surprised if atheists actually gave a Hel about the pope anyway

 

My older brother is an atheist. I admire & respect him even tho we disagree on many issues. Your comments continually reflect opposition to the Catholic Church. Pope Benedict XVI did not foster his personal views. If you are waiting for a Pope who shuns the teachings of Jesus Christ....good luck. There are many Churches which will accomodate your beliefs~

blondekosmic15
by on Mar. 20, 2013 at 9:15 PM
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Quoting lga1965:

 I'm not an Atheist---I believe in God . I am happy for Catholics but I am not impressed.

 Thank you for your opinion Iga...

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Mar. 20, 2013 at 9:28 PM

I am not an Atheist nor am I an Agnostic.

My verdict is still out on the Pope.  I am, however, pleased that Benedict is gone. 


blondekosmic15
by on Mar. 20, 2013 at 9:39 PM

 

Quoting LavenderMom23:

I doubt atheists are impressed bc Pope Francis is already quoted saying if you don't have a good prayer life, you worship the Devil. Don't know any praying atheists.

I have never read this about Pope Francis. Pls provide a link to confirm this. Thank you. You can admire a leader even if you don't agree with his personal views. His profound humility & love for the poor are deeply admired by many~

Sekirei
by Nari Trickster on Mar. 20, 2013 at 9:45 PM
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Quoting blondekosmic15:

 

Quoting Sekirei:

Sorry, same ratzinger views... just in a shiney new package. (well, newer) I would be surprised if atheists actually gave a Hel about the pope anyway


My older brother is an atheist. I admire & respect him even tho we disagree on many issues. Your comments continually reflect opposition to the Catholic Church. Pope Benedict XVI did not foster his personal views. If you are waiting for a Pope who shuns the teachings of Jesus Christ....good luck. There are many Churches which will accomodate your beliefs~

Former Catholic... never doing that again. Not a christian either. However, I did have a great deal of respect for John Paul II. *shrugs* 

I will stay on my path happily. 

Sekirei
by Nari Trickster on Mar. 20, 2013 at 9:45 PM
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Quoting 12hellokitty:



Quoting Sekirei:

Sorry, same ratzinger views... just in a shiney new package. (well, newer) I would be surprised if atheists actually gave a Hel about the pope anyway



Actually Benedict's vast knowledge and understanding of science converted many Atheists.  

All righty...color me surprised and owing Hel an extra tribute. 

12hellokitty
by Platinum Member on Mar. 20, 2013 at 9:48 PM
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Quoting FromAtoZ:

I am not an Atheist nor am I an Agnostic.

My verdict is still out on the Pope.  I am, however, pleased that Benedict is gone. 





Benedict XVI 
“Agnostics, who are constantly exercised by the question of God, those who long for a pure heart but suffer on account of our sin, are closer to the Kingdom of God than believers whose life of faith is 'routine' and who regard the Church merely as an institution, without letting their hearts be touched by faith.”


-Celestial-
by Pepperlynn on Mar. 20, 2013 at 9:49 PM
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Eh. The Pope is useless.
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by Whoopie on Mar. 20, 2013 at 9:55 PM

I wonder if Vatican policy, pomp and circumstance will train the humility out of the man and trump his personal beliefs and natural behaviors?

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