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Robocalls to Newtown from the NRA

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Think its ok for NRA to make robocalls and send postcards asking for support to people in Newtown whose children were shot to death at Sandyhook? 

by on Mar. 25, 2013 at 7:32 PM
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lga1965
by on Mar. 25, 2013 at 10:18 PM
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 No you can't, if you're using a cell, a smart phone.  You know,those phones that don't have a cord  and you can hold it in your hand ....

Why would you question her? It is typical of the NRA.I didn't question it.

But if I do question anything,I know how to FIND articles Online,though, don't YOU?

Quoting grandmab125:

 It's really not hard to copy and paste, or add a link...kwim.  That's generally the way most of us put up a post.  So don't get in a huff when some one questions your post.

Quoting GeekMommi:

Im not handing in an essay, Im posting on Cafemom. If you are suspicious, search it.


Quoting grandmab125:

 It's very easy to be suspicious when people don't post an actual story or a link to one.  If one cannot post a link, one should at least say where she found her info.  Then every one can check it out, before they comment.  "Did you hear" type stories open themselves up for scepticism.


Quoting shannonnigans:



OK.  Not sure why you have such a tough time believing it when the NRA prez readily admits it.  But ok........... 


From TheHill.com     You can find it all over though.


Connecticut senators blast NRA robocalls to Newtown residents


By Justin Sink - 03/25/13 06:36 PM ET

 


 
  

The NRA "has stooped to a new low" in its anti-gun-control efforts at the site of last year's mass shooting.


Connecticut's U.S. senators on Tuesday admonished the National Rifle Association for robocalls to residents of Newtown, Conn., the site of last year's deadly mass shooting that left 20 schoolchildren and six educators dead.

"With these robocalls, the NRA has stooped to a new low in the debate over how to best protect our kids and our communities," Sens. Chris Murphy and Richard Blumenthal, both Democrats, wrote in a letter to NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre. "We call on you to immediately stop calling the families and friends of the victims in Newtown."

The robocalls, one of which was obtained by The Huffington Post, urge Newtown residents to lobby their state representatives against an effort to pass stricter gun controls in the state. Proposals there include a beefed-up assault weapons ban and a limit on magazine size.

"Anti-gun legislators are aggressively pursuing numerous proposals that are designed to disarm and punish law-abiding gun owners and sportsmen," the robocall says.

In their letter, the senators say "making these calls opens a wound that these families are still trying hard to heal."

"Put yourself in the shoes of a victim's family member who gets a call at dinnertime asking them to support more assault weapons in our schools and on our streets," the pair write.

In a statement to CNN, NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam defended the robocalls.

"The National Rifle Association has members, contributors, and supporters in Connecticut who expect us to do our jobs and keep them abreast of developments on the legislative front in their state," Arulanandam said. "We provide the same service for our members and supporters all around the country."

The calls come less than 100 days after the mass shooting, which prompted the Obama administration to call for a package of new gun control regulations. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said last week that the Senate would vote on a bill that included an expansion of background checks and new penalties for straw purchases upon returning from a two-week Easter break.




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Quoting grandmab125:


 How about a link to your so called story.


 


 


 


 

 

lga1965
by on Mar. 25, 2013 at 10:22 PM

 See, but the families of the victims didn't complain. The Huffington post was alerted to the calls by a local gun control advocacy group in that area. Then they started cold calling any resident in Newtown for opinions on whether or not the NRA should be making these calls

 

The above is part of what you wrote.They wanted to know how these families felt about the NRA making calls for support! If I was one of the parents, I would tell them how I felt about the NRA and their insensitivity.

Quoting DestinyHLewis:

 

Read my response above to the OP. It might surprise you to find out who was actually using these victims and their families to further their political agenda. 

Quoting lga1965:

 I believe that people who want to ban guns have sensitivty and sympathy. why would they call the people who lost children on that terrible day? They would have more sense than to call and discuss gun violence with people who experienced it !

Quoting DestinyHLewis:

 

Ah. But you didn't answer my question. Would you be just as upset if they were getting robocalls and postcards for gun bans? 

Quoting GeekMommi:

Im sure some people in NT support the NRA but it's in poor taste to call the families of the victims.


Quoting DestinyHLewis:

You are assuming every last person in Newtown would support the opposition and be offended by the calls for support. You assume people blame the death of those children on guns, and not the person who fired them. That is where the issue comes in. You have no idea if those people wish in their dreams that someone in that school had, had a gun to fight back. We don't know their position. 

In one opinion it might be abhorrent and tasteless. In another it might be what they needed to fight back after what happened. 

I don't know, and neither do you. So I guess the calls aren't that awful. Would you say the same if they were getting robocalls in support of gun bans? 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Lizard_Lina
by Silver Member on Mar. 25, 2013 at 10:24 PM
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking at but I've read a couple of your replies and agree with a lot if not all of it.


Quoting DestinyHLewis:


It wasn't a mistake. Read above. 


Quoting Lizard_Lina:

How do you know its a mistake? We had a school shooting here last year and most of those people are still very pro gun. Maybe they sent stuff out everywhere, and I'm pretty sure addresses and phone numbers aren't broken down by those effected by the shooting.





Quoting GeekMommi:

IDK but why would that matter. Its a town that has just had a mass shooting of children, its very insensitive of the NRA. And you don't make a mistake like that.







Quoting Lizard_Lina:

Depends.... Is newtown the only city receiving postcards and calls?








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Lizard_Lina
by Silver Member on Mar. 25, 2013 at 10:27 PM
I would think that would be exactly who you would want to discuss it with. Why would you not want to know the stance of gun control of those who have fallen victim to gun violence? Who else is going to have a better opinion than them?


Quoting lga1965:

 I believe that people who want to ban guns have sensitivty and sympathy. why would they call the people who lost children on that terrible day? They would have more sense than to call and discuss gun violence with people who experienced it !


Quoting DestinyHLewis:


 


Ah. But you didn't answer my question. Would you be just as upset if they were getting robocalls and postcards for gun bans? 


Quoting GeekMommi:

Im sure some people in NT support the NRA but it's in poor taste to call the families of the victims.



Quoting DestinyHLewis:


You are assuming every last person in Newtown would support the opposition and be offended by the calls for support. You assume people blame the death of those children on guns, and not the person who fired them. That is where the issue comes in. You have no idea if those people wish in their dreams that someone in that school had, had a gun to fight back. We don't know their position. 


In one opinion it might be abhorrent and tasteless. In another it might be what they needed to fight back after what happened. 


I don't know, and neither do you. So I guess the calls aren't that awful. Would you say the same if they were getting robocalls in support of gun bans? 



 


 


 


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grandmab125
by Gold Member on Mar. 25, 2013 at 10:29 PM

 No, you don't know how to research anything...and we all know it by the replies you post.  And, of course, you believe everything from the left, so.....

And, as I said, she could have posted that she found it on Comcast, or whatever.  And I suppose your crystal ball told you that she was posting mobile.  Going by your assumption, slapmaybe she should wait until she has access to a computer to post so that it's a complete post.  Besides, she admits that she's too lazy to post an article.

Quoting lga1965:

 No you can't, if you're using a cell, a smart phone.  You know,those phones that don't have a cord  and you can hold it in your hand ....

Why would you question her? It is typical of the NRA.I didn't question it.

But if I do question anything,I know how to FIND articles Online,though, don't YOU?

Quoting grandmab125:

 It's really not hard to copy and paste, or add a link...kwim.  That's generally the way most of us put up a post.  So don't get in a huff when some one questions your post.

Quoting GeekMommi:

Im not handing in an essay, Im posting on Cafemom. If you are suspicious, search it.


Quoting grandmab125:

 It's very easy to be suspicious when people don't post an actual story or a link to one.  If one cannot post a link, one should at least say where she found her info.  Then every one can check it out, before they comment.  "Did you hear" type stories open themselves up for scepticism.


Quoting shannonnigans:



OK.  Not sure why you have such a tough time believing it when the NRA prez readily admits it.  But ok........... 


From TheHill.com     You can find it all over though.


Connecticut senators blast NRA robocalls to Newtown residents


By Justin Sink - 03/25/13 06:36 PM ET

 


 
  

The NRA "has stooped to a new low" in its anti-gun-control efforts at the site of last year's mass shooting.


Connecticut's U.S. senators on Tuesday admonished the National Rifle Association for robocalls to residents of Newtown, Conn., the site of last year's deadly mass shooting that left 20 schoolchildren and six educators dead.

"With these robocalls, the NRA has stooped to a new low in the debate over how to best protect our kids and our communities," Sens. Chris Murphy and Richard Blumenthal, both Democrats, wrote in a letter to NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre. "We call on you to immediately stop calling the families and friends of the victims in Newtown."

The robocalls, one of which was obtained by The Huffington Post, urge Newtown residents to lobby their state representatives against an effort to pass stricter gun controls in the state. Proposals there include a beefed-up assault weapons ban and a limit on magazine size.

"Anti-gun legislators are aggressively pursuing numerous proposals that are designed to disarm and punish law-abiding gun owners and sportsmen," the robocall says.

In their letter, the senators say "making these calls opens a wound that these families are still trying hard to heal."

"Put yourself in the shoes of a victim's family member who gets a call at dinnertime asking them to support more assault weapons in our schools and on our streets," the pair write.

In a statement to CNN, NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam defended the robocalls.

"The National Rifle Association has members, contributors, and supporters in Connecticut who expect us to do our jobs and keep them abreast of developments on the legislative front in their state," Arulanandam said. "We provide the same service for our members and supporters all around the country."

The calls come less than 100 days after the mass shooting, which prompted the Obama administration to call for a package of new gun control regulations. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said last week that the Senate would vote on a bill that included an expansion of background checks and new penalties for straw purchases upon returning from a two-week Easter break.




Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/290241-connecticut-senators-blast-nra-robocalls-to-newtown#ixzz2Oba1lgA6
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Quoting grandmab125:


 How about a link to your so called story.


 


 


 


 

 

 

grandma B

RunningMommaof2
by Member on Mar. 25, 2013 at 10:30 PM
Absolutely not. It was Insensitive and in very poor taste. I'm wondering if it was just Newtown that they targeted also.. I'm in CT and didn't get a robocall or postcard from the NRA.
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DestinyHLewis
by Destiny on Mar. 25, 2013 at 10:31 PM


The families of Newtown didn't complain. I'm not sure what you aren't getting. The victims of the actual tragedy, the people that lost their children didn't call in and complain, in fact no one did. A local gun control group called the Huffington post to say the NRA was making these robocalls in that area. Then the Huffington post cold called residents (non of which were families of the shootings) and asked about the robocalls and their opinions on them. That is where these democratic senators and the papers got these quotes from. The senators then took this information and ran with it. They made it sound like the NRA had hurt these families all over again and victimized them, that they had received calls to their offices with pleas to make it stop. It never happened. These men USED this tragedy and these families to further their anti gun bills. Their political agendas. That is not okay. It is never oaky regardless of who does it and for what purpose. 

Quoting lga1965:

 See, but the families of the victims didn't complain. The Huffington post was alerted to the calls by a local gun control advocacy group in that area. Then they started cold calling any resident in Newtown for opinions on whether or not the NRA should be making these calls

 

The above is part of what you wrote.They wanted to know how these families felt about the NRA making calls for support! If I was one of the parents, I would tell them how I felt about the NRA and their insensitivity.

Quoting DestinyHLewis:


Read my response above to the OP. It might surprise you to find out who was actually using these victims and their families to further their political agenda. 

Quoting lga1965:

 I believe that people who want to ban guns have sensitivty and sympathy. why would they call the people who lost children on that terrible day? They would have more sense than to call and discuss gun violence with people who experienced it !

Quoting DestinyHLewis:


Ah. But you didn't answer my question. Would you be just as upset if they were getting robocalls and postcards for gun bans? 

Quoting GeekMommi:

Im sure some people in NT support the NRA but it's in poor taste to call the families of the victims.


Quoting DestinyHLewis:

You are assuming every last person in Newtown would support the opposition and be offended by the calls for support. You assume people blame the death of those children on guns, and not the person who fired them. That is where the issue comes in. You have no idea if those people wish in their dreams that someone in that school had, had a gun to fight back. We don't know their position. 

In one opinion it might be abhorrent and tasteless. In another it might be what they needed to fight back after what happened. 

I don't know, and neither do you. So I guess the calls aren't that awful. Would you say the same if they were getting robocalls in support of gun bans? 




 



 



GeekMommi
by on Mar. 25, 2013 at 10:33 PM
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Im not in a "huff". :-)


Quoting grandmab125:

 It's really not hard to copy and paste, or add a link...kwim.  That's generally the way most of us put up a post.  So don't get in a huff when some one questions your post.


Quoting GeekMommi:

Im not handing in an essay, Im posting on Cafemom. If you are suspicious, search it.



Quoting grandmab125:


 It's very easy to be suspicious when people don't post an actual story or a link to one.  If one cannot post a link, one should at least say where she found her info.  Then every one can check it out, before they comment.  "Did you hear" type stories open themselves up for scepticism.



Quoting shannonnigans:





OK.  Not sure why you have such a tough time believing it when the NRA prez readily admits it.  But ok........... 



From TheHill.com     You can find it all over though.



Connecticut senators blast NRA robocalls to Newtown residents



By Justin Sink - 03/25/13 06:36 PM ET


 



 

  


The NRA "has stooped to a new low" in its anti-gun-control efforts at the site of last year's mass shooting.



Connecticut's U.S. senators on Tuesday admonished the National Rifle Association for robocalls to residents of Newtown, Conn., the site of last year's deadly mass shooting that left 20 schoolchildren and six educators dead.

"With these robocalls, the NRA has stooped to a new low in the debate over how to best protect our kids and our communities," Sens. Chris Murphy and Richard Blumenthal, both Democrats, wrote in a letter to NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre. "We call on you to immediately stop calling the families and friends of the victims in Newtown."

The robocalls, one of which was obtained by The Huffington Post, urge Newtown residents to lobby their state representatives against an effort to pass stricter gun controls in the state. Proposals there include a beefed-up assault weapons ban and a limit on magazine size.

"Anti-gun legislators are aggressively pursuing numerous proposals that are designed to disarm and punish law-abiding gun owners and sportsmen," the robocall says.

In their letter, the senators say "making these calls opens a wound that these families are still trying hard to heal."

"Put yourself in the shoes of a victim's family member who gets a call at dinnertime asking them to support more assault weapons in our schools and on our streets," the pair write.

In a statement to CNN, NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam defended the robocalls.

"The National Rifle Association has members, contributors, and supporters in Connecticut who expect us to do our jobs and keep them abreast of developments on the legislative front in their state," Arulanandam said. "We provide the same service for our members and supporters all around the country."

The calls come less than 100 days after the mass shooting, which prompted the Obama administration to call for a package of new gun control regulations. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said last week that the Senate would vote on a bill that included an expansion of background checks and new penalties for straw purchases upon returning from a two-week Easter break.





Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/290241-connecticut-senators-blast-nra-robocalls-to-newtown#ixzz2Oba1lgA6
Follow us: @thehill on Twitter | TheHill on Facebook



Quoting grandmab125:



 How about a link to your so called story.



 



 



 



 


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GeekMommi
by on Mar. 25, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Well, there is that little mobile phone on the bottom of my post and I told you I was on a phone. I think that's how she knew. Why are still angry about it? Who cares.....


Quoting grandmab125:

 No, you don't know how to research anything...and we all know it by the replies you post.  And, of course, you believe everything from the left, so.....


And, as I said, she could have posted that she found it on Comcast, or whatever.  And I suppose your crystal ball told you that she was posting mobile.  Going by your assumption, slapmaybe she should wait until she has access to a computer to post so that it's a complete post.  Besides, she admits that she's too lazy to post an article.


Quoting lga1965:


 No you can't, if you're using a cell, a smart phone.  You know,those phones that don't have a cord  and you can hold it in your hand ....


Why would you question her? It is typical of the NRA.I didn't question it.


But if I do question anything,I know how to FIND articles Online,though, don't YOU?


Quoting grandmab125:


 It's really not hard to copy and paste, or add a link...kwim.  That's generally the way most of us put up a post.  So don't get in a huff when some one questions your post.


Quoting GeekMommi:

Im not handing in an essay, Im posting on Cafemom. If you are suspicious, search it.



Quoting grandmab125:


 It's very easy to be suspicious when people don't post an actual story or a link to one.  If one cannot post a link, one should at least say where she found her info.  Then every one can check it out, before they comment.  "Did you hear" type stories open themselves up for scepticism.



Quoting shannonnigans:





OK.  Not sure why you have such a tough time believing it when the NRA prez readily admits it.  But ok........... 



From TheHill.com     You can find it all over though.



Connecticut senators blast NRA robocalls to Newtown residents



By Justin Sink - 03/25/13 06:36 PM ET


 



 

  


The NRA "has stooped to a new low" in its anti-gun-control efforts at the site of last year's mass shooting.



Connecticut's U.S. senators on Tuesday admonished the National Rifle Association for robocalls to residents of Newtown, Conn., the site of last year's deadly mass shooting that left 20 schoolchildren and six educators dead.

"With these robocalls, the NRA has stooped to a new low in the debate over how to best protect our kids and our communities," Sens. Chris Murphy and Richard Blumenthal, both Democrats, wrote in a letter to NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre. "We call on you to immediately stop calling the families and friends of the victims in Newtown."

The robocalls, one of which was obtained by The Huffington Post, urge Newtown residents to lobby their state representatives against an effort to pass stricter gun controls in the state. Proposals there include a beefed-up assault weapons ban and a limit on magazine size.

"Anti-gun legislators are aggressively pursuing numerous proposals that are designed to disarm and punish law-abiding gun owners and sportsmen," the robocall says.

In their letter, the senators say "making these calls opens a wound that these families are still trying hard to heal."

"Put yourself in the shoes of a victim's family member who gets a call at dinnertime asking them to support more assault weapons in our schools and on our streets," the pair write.

In a statement to CNN, NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam defended the robocalls.

"The National Rifle Association has members, contributors, and supporters in Connecticut who expect us to do our jobs and keep them abreast of developments on the legislative front in their state," Arulanandam said. "We provide the same service for our members and supporters all around the country."

The calls come less than 100 days after the mass shooting, which prompted the Obama administration to call for a package of new gun control regulations. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said last week that the Senate would vote on a bill that included an expansion of background checks and new penalties for straw purchases upon returning from a two-week Easter break.





Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/290241-connecticut-senators-blast-nra-robocalls-to-newtown#ixzz2Oba1lgA6
Follow us: @thehill on Twitter | TheHill on Facebook



Quoting grandmab125:



 How about a link to your so called story.



 



 



 



 


 


 


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grandmab125
by Gold Member on Mar. 25, 2013 at 10:47 PM

 Hey, I'm not angry.  You're a newbie here on CM.  You wouldn't know that Iga and I have a contentious relationship, to say the least.  She's always trying to one up me, so I just give it right back to her.  Sorry, if you got caught in the crossfire.

Quoting GeekMommi:

Well, there is that little mobile phone on the bottom of my post and I told you I was on a phone. I think that's how she knew. Why are still angry about it? Who cares.....


Quoting grandmab125:

 No, you don't know how to research anything...and we all know it by the replies you post.  And, of course, you believe everything from the left, so.....


And, as I said, she could have posted that she found it on Comcast, or whatever.  And I suppose your crystal ball told you that she was posting mobile.  Going by your assumption, slapmaybe she should wait until she has access to a computer to post so that it's a complete post.  Besides, she admits that she's too lazy to post an article.


Quoting lga1965:


 No you can't, if you're using a cell, a smart phone.  You know,those phones that don't have a cord  and you can hold it in your hand ....


Why would you question her? It is typical of the NRA.I didn't question it.


But if I do question anything,I know how to FIND articles Online,though, don't YOU?


Quoting grandmab125:


 It's really not hard to copy and paste, or add a link...kwim.  That's generally the way most of us put up a post.  So don't get in a huff when some one questions your post.


Quoting GeekMommi:

Im not handing in an essay, Im posting on Cafemom. If you are suspicious, search it.



Quoting grandmab125:


 It's very easy to be suspicious when people don't post an actual story or a link to one.  If one cannot post a link, one should at least say where she found her info.  Then every one can check it out, before they comment.  "Did you hear" type stories open themselves up for scepticism.



Quoting shannonnigans:





OK.  Not sure why you have such a tough time believing it when the NRA prez readily admits it.  But ok........... 



From TheHill.com     You can find it all over though.



Connecticut senators blast NRA robocalls to Newtown residents



By Justin Sink - 03/25/13 06:36 PM ET


 



 

  


The NRA "has stooped to a new low" in its anti-gun-control efforts at the site of last year's mass shooting.



Connecticut's U.S. senators on Tuesday admonished the National Rifle Association for robocalls to residents of Newtown, Conn., the site of last year's deadly mass shooting that left 20 schoolchildren and six educators dead.

"With these robocalls, the NRA has stooped to a new low in the debate over how to best protect our kids and our communities," Sens. Chris Murphy and Richard Blumenthal, both Democrats, wrote in a letter to NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre. "We call on you to immediately stop calling the families and friends of the victims in Newtown."

The robocalls, one of which was obtained by The Huffington Post, urge Newtown residents to lobby their state representatives against an effort to pass stricter gun controls in the state. Proposals there include a beefed-up assault weapons ban and a limit on magazine size.

"Anti-gun legislators are aggressively pursuing numerous proposals that are designed to disarm and punish law-abiding gun owners and sportsmen," the robocall says.

In their letter, the senators say "making these calls opens a wound that these families are still trying hard to heal."

"Put yourself in the shoes of a victim's family member who gets a call at dinnertime asking them to support more assault weapons in our schools and on our streets," the pair write.

In a statement to CNN, NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam defended the robocalls.

"The National Rifle Association has members, contributors, and supporters in Connecticut who expect us to do our jobs and keep them abreast of developments on the legislative front in their state," Arulanandam said. "We provide the same service for our members and supporters all around the country."

The calls come less than 100 days after the mass shooting, which prompted the Obama administration to call for a package of new gun control regulations. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said last week that the Senate would vote on a bill that included an expansion of background checks and new penalties for straw purchases upon returning from a two-week Easter break.





Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/290241-connecticut-senators-blast-nra-robocalls-to-newtown#ixzz2Oba1lgA6
Follow us: @thehill on Twitter | TheHill on Facebook



Quoting grandmab125:



 How about a link to your so called story.



 



 



 



 


 


 


 

grandma B

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