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Do you think that being gay is a choice or genetics

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Just curious what people think, a lot of people say that they were born that way well then should there not be a DNA code for the gay gene?  They can find the code for male or female, brown and blue eyes and for certain diseases and disorders so then where is the gay DNA ?  If they are going to say that they were born that way well is there any definite scientific proof that can actually back this up.  So then if a parent has a gay test done on an unborn fetus and they do not believe in that lifestyle is that an okay reason to terminate the child just a few things to ponder.

by on Mar. 27, 2013 at 8:43 PM
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Jerichos_Mommy
by Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 7:56 AM

I do not know any who have tried to conform, per se.  I knew a couple where one partner kept things more under wrap with his family for a long time.  On a personal level I think if a person is happy with whom they are they should be left alone.


Yes I beleive they can choose to live how someone else wants them to, but will that make them happy?  Each  person needs to decide that onhis/her own.  I do know if it were my child I would love and support them without trying to change them.

Quoting Ms.KitKat:

 I have seen what happens to both individuals and whole families when a person who is gay tries to conform to what society expects of them.

HINT: It does not end "well"

Quoting Jerichos_Mommy:

I'll go with both.  I beleive you are genetically born gay or straight.  That said we have free will and can choose to be happy with whom we are or try to change to what society tells us to be.  Changing may make us more or less happy thean not changing, but that choice is ours.

 



punky3175
by on Mar. 29, 2013 at 8:54 AM
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I'm not asking you to say you're a 'bigot' just understand why others might view you that way. But I'm not at all surprised you chose to pass.

And for the record - I don't think of you as a bigot or ignorant.


Quoting toomanypoodles:

 


Quoting punky3175:

There's a difference between having a 'judgment' about someone and being bigoted against them. Do I judge that I don't like the persona you reveal here? Yep - sure do. Do I judge that if what you portray here is the real you that I wouldn't like the real you very much? Yep - sure do.

Your turn - do you see how people think of you as a judgmental (or even bigoted) bitter woman?

And my making a judgment on you does not mean I want to deny you any rights or freedoms. I just wouldn't choose to actually spend any time with you outside of this forum.



Quoting toomanypoodles:


 



Quoting punky3175:

I'm not bigoted against your lifestyle. I just can't fathom someone not being open to an actual discussion and the possibility that gays are IN FACT born that way. I can't fathom dismissing science because it doesn't fit your view. Am I judging you for it? Nope but unlike you, I wouldn't be spending a lot of time with someone I had so little in common with. And it's not because you're Christian since I have plenty of Christian friends. It's because I like to have varying, deep discussions about everything on the face of the planet. I just don't see that as being possible with someone as close minded as you. You claim acceptance and tolerance but your actions (on this site) does not show it. You shows a very hateful bitter woman who is indeed VERY judgmental towards anyone and everyone who doesn't share her beliefs. All anyone has to do is look at all your supposed 'funnies' and see that.

Quoting toomanypoodles: 
Quoting punky3175:You didn't answer the question. And I have no problems with Christians nor do most of the people I know. I respect that others have different beliefs and I have no problems with that until those beliefs are trying to deny rights to someone else.
Quoting toomanypoodles:
 
Quoting punky3175:How many gay people do you know? How many conversations have you had with them? Have you heard them explain how they have ALWAYS been attracted to the same sex? I know quite a few and not a one (male or female) CHOSE to like the same sex. WHY would anyone make a choice like that? It brings hatred from others and ridicule from closed minded individuals in society. It means they have to fight for the same basic rights that everyone else has such as the right to marry the person the love. No one would CHOOSE that lifestyle.Quoting toomanypoodles: Absolute choice.  God created a man and a woman to have sex together.  If he had wanted man to lay with man and woman with woman He'd have created two of each sex and said, "Here--you choose".It's just NUTS to think to think one is "born that way"And your question at the end is stupid---people that don't believe a homosexual lifestyle is okay do not abort their babies. 
 As long as people call Christians closed minded bigots and homophobes, we really can't have a discussion.  You pass judgment on us for our Biblical beliefs.  They way you (not you, but in general) accuse Christians is just as bad as the way you feel some Christians respond towards homosexual behaviour. 
You cannot see that you are just as bigoted towards Christians.  We believe differently, but you persecute us for not believing as you do. 
Open your eyes and see how you are unacceptive and judgmental towards Christians before you slam us Christians for not accepting your beliefs. 
 I answered by saying it's a discussion we cannot even have until those of you in support of it can realize that not everyone supports it and there is no reason to call someone a bigot because they don't support it.  I'm tired of the name calling just because I don't believe as most  do.  I can accept gays and their differences, why can't some of you accept me and mine? 
Do I know gay people, yes, we used to have a gay couple as friends before hubby and I got married.  We never discussed it with them though, we just accepted them as nice folks who loved to come over and eat and play games with us around the dining room table on Saturday nights.  They knew our beliefs, we knew their lifestyle, didn't agree with it, but we loved and accepted them and they us. 
Not everyone chooses our walk and I don't expect them to.  I don't judge them or condemn them for not accepting my lifestyle.  But many of you do damn me for MY beliefs.  How about accepting ME?  Why are you bigoted against MY lifestyle?


 Well then---that's your judgement on ME. 



But..you cannot see that. 


 I'll pass.


I'll hold my beliefs and you hold yours.  What's right and wrong for me may not be right or wrong for you.  No sense arguing. 

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greenie63
by Silver Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Read the first few sentences of the letter to herman Cain. It specifically says "If being gay is a choice, show us the proof." 

The topic of this post is "Do you think being gay is a choice or genetics."

That is very easy to comprehend unless you are trying to make an argument against the topic. Which is the case it seems. 

Let me clarify for you. Hermain Cain thinks being gay is a choice, Dan Savage was being amusing and sarcastic by clarifying that being gay is not a choice. This all references back to the original post. 

Comprende now?

Quoting Billiejeens:


Having gay sex doesn't make one gay.

Once again, what is your point?

Focus this time.

Quoting greenie63:

I guess the elevator chose not to go to the top floor this evening? 

Quoting Billiejeens:


What is the point?

Quoting greenie63:

A letter from Dan Savage to Herman Cain. It's a tad profane but the point comes across:







lalasha
by Bronze Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Did you wake up one morning and say I'm gonna think boy are cute and they are going to make my parts tingle? No? Well then question answered.
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Raintree
by Ruby Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 11:35 AM

It's an actual question, Jules. If one option is a 'choice', then so must the other be.

When did you choose?

Quoting jcribb16:

I answered  the original poster's question with what I believe.  The rest is sarcastic from you, and I don't have time for that kind of nonsense from you.

Quoting Raintree:


Quoting jcribb16:

Choice

How do you suppose, Jules? When did you choose your straightness? How was that for you? A struggle?



Jenniy
by Bronze Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM
Genetic. Just bc no one has found the "gay gene" doesn't mean anything.
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Billiejeens
by Gold Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 11:40 AM

 

I understood from the start - what I understand is it is stupid.

Anyone can choose to, or be forced to engage in homosexual sex, doesn't make them gay.

Against the topic?  The topic is an either or, therefore there is no "for or against"

Quoting greenie63:

Read the first few sentences of the letter to herman Cain. It specifically says "If being gay is a choice, show us the proof." 

The topic of this post is "Do you think being gay is a choice or genetics."

That is very easy to comprehend unless you are trying to make an argument against the topic. Which is the case it seems. 

Let me clarify for you. Hermain Cain thinks being gay is a choice, Dan Savage was being amusing and sarcastic by clarifying that being gay is not a choice. This all references back to the original post. 

Comprende now?

Quoting Billiejeens:

 

Having gay sex doesn't make one gay.

Once again, what is your point?

Focus this time.

Quoting greenie63:

I guess the elevator chose not to go to the top floor this evening? 

Quoting Billiejeens:

 

What is the point?

Quoting greenie63:

A letter from Dan Savage to Herman Cain. It's a tad profane but the point comes across:

 

 


 

 



 

romanceparty4u
by Bronze Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 11:42 AM

I beleive it's a predetermined physiological factor in most cases, however I do know people that "choose to" be gay, they've told me so.

I don't think bisexuality is "born that way" though.

irishgal63
by Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 3:11 PM

   I  believe  it 's   genetic .   I 've  worked  with  both  gay  men  &  women, some  I  got  along  with, &  some  I

   didn 't .   We  are  ALL  still  people   !

jcribb16
by Silver Member on Mar. 30, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Stop putting words in my mouth that I never said.  I gave an answer to a question and have nothing else to say on the matter, unless I choose to. Those of you who twist answers or put words in there that one did not say, are the ones who make it not worth discussing things within some of these groups. 

Once again, for the record, I did not say any of those words you assume I support; nor did I even imply anything of that nature.

Quoting chloedee:

And you support beating a child if they were to come to you and say they were gay? Does that seem like something Jesus would have been in favor of?


Quoting jcribb16:

Choice



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