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Teens Indicted in GA Baby Slaying, shooting the mother Plus in a 2nd Shooting incident UPDATED

Posted by on Mar. 28, 2013 at 12:49 PM
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Still having problems with CM's site but I will post the link where I found the latest article in this case. The teens were 17 & 15. Both will be tried as an adult. The 17 yr. old is said to be the shooter, but should the 15 yr. be also charged with murder? I believe it would be called being an 'assessory' to the murder. The 17 yr. old was also indicted for another incident shooting a man in the arm during an attempted robbery earlier this month. The police think that the same caliber revolver was used in the slaying of the baby. Mother, aunt & sister is also charged in giving false statements to the police. Saying that the shooter was with them during the time of the shooting. The police have also found a gun in a salt-water pond, saying that the mother & sister threw the weapon in the pond. The police have to wait to see if any DNA is on the gun linking it to the teen. What has me really sadden by this case is how ANYONE can up & shoot a baby like this. I wonder if the shooter or the other teen have any remorse at all. Also, how can family members defend the teen & lie to the police like they have. Possibly throwing the weapon in a pond to protect the shooter of this crime. I just can't understand this way of thinking, because I would never do that even if it was my own child. Here's the UPDATED link as of 3-27 7PM. http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_22884629/teen-indicted-georgia-baby-slaying-and-2nd-shooting?source=rss
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autodidact
by Platinum Member on Mar. 28, 2013 at 12:56 PM

the police have to wait to see WHOSE DNA is on the gun.

what proof do they have that the mother or sister threw it in there?

MeAndTommyLee
by Gold Member on Mar. 28, 2013 at 1:00 PM

The mother and sister admitted to police that they lied regarding the alleged shooters whereabouts, alibi and knowledge of the weapon.  I doubt the teen gave himself up by pointing them in the direction of the possible murder weapon. 


Quoting autodidact:

the police have to wait to see WHOSE DNA is on the gun.

what proof do they have that the mother or sister threw it in there?


 

Maevelyn
by Member on Mar. 28, 2013 at 1:05 PM

It was a robbery which is a fellony if ANYONE dies during the commission of a felony all people involved in the felony are charged. IE young men go to rob a bank, the guard pulls out a gun and shoots one dead, the accomplice would be charged in the death.  

Maevelyn
by Member on Mar. 28, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Just read the article. Lovely, they're hoping they can find some reason to accuse the mother of being too mentally ill to identify the killers. LOVELY

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Mar. 28, 2013 at 1:15 PM
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 They haven't released any evidence. the whole case is ODD.

The Mom's grown daughter said she doubts her story as she changed he timeline and asked about insurance money right after.

The reason they were arrested was the Mom identified them from mug shots...than said it looks like him so maybe they got him...

Then later said she was sure.

The entire thing is horrible and just weird. Why kill the baby and leave an eye witness? in broad daylight?

 

Quoting autodidact:

the police have to wait to see WHOSE DNA is on the gun.

what proof do they have that the mother or sister threw it in there?

 

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Mar. 28, 2013 at 1:17 PM

 If she is the only thing pointing to these teens, the case should be dismissed. Her own daughter doesn't believe her.

I hope they have actual physical evidence of some kind to justify an arrest

Quoting Maevelyn:

Just read the article. Lovely, they're hoping they can find some reason to accuse the mother of being too mentally ill to identify the killers. LOVELY

 

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Mar. 28, 2013 at 1:20 PM

 

 

Teen indicted in Georgia baby slaying and 2nd shooting

RUSS BYNUM,Associated PressAssociated Press
 

   
 SAVANNAH, Ga. (AP) - A Georgia teenager shot a 13-month-old baby in the face while trying to rob the child's mother, according to an indictment returned Wednesday that also charged the suspect with shooting another person in an unrelated robbery attempt earlier this month.

The indictment by a Glynn County grand jury charges 17-year-old De'Marquise Elkins on nine counts, including malice murder, in the slaying last Thursday of young Antonio Santiago a few blocks from his home in coastal Brunswick.

Another suspect, 15-year-old Dominique Lang, was indicted on seven counts including felony murder. But the indictment specifies that authorities believe it was Elkins who shot the child and wounded his mother with a .22-caliber revolver as the boys tried to steal money from her.

District Attorney Jackie Johnson of the Brunswick Judicial Circuit said in a statement Thursday she would not seek the death penalty against either suspect because Georgia law doesn't allow capital punishment for defendants charged with crimes committed before they were 18. Both teens are charged as adults.

Elkins was also indicted on two counts in a second attempted robbery and shooting that happened 10 days before the baby was slain. On March 11, according to the indictment, Elkins tried to rob a person identified as Wilfredo Calix-Flores, pointing a gun at him while demanding his cellphone and wallet. Elkins shot Calix-Flores in the arm with the same caliber revolver used to kill the baby

 


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10 days later, the indictment says. He is charged with attempted robbery and assault with a deadly weapon.

Kevin Gough, a public defender representing Elkins, said he felt prosecutors rushed to indict his client before collecting all available evidence. Gough had asked a judge for a preliminary hearing next week to determine if prosecutors had sufficient evidence to charge Elkins. The indictment means a grand jury has already made that determination and Elkins' attorneys won't get an early look at the evidence against him.

"It's a major setback in the sense we would like to have an opportunity to test the strength of the evidence against our client," Gough said.

Lang's attorney, Kimberly L. Copeland, said she planned a vigorous defense but had no further comment.

"I believe in the innocence of my client," Copeland said.

The few details contained in the indictment seem to back up the story the slain baby's mother, Sherry West, has repeated to numerous reporters: She was pushing her baby in a stroller as she walked home from the post office when two youths approached asking for money. West says when she refused, the older teen drew a gun and shot her in the leg before shooting her son in the head.

Glynn County Police Chief Matt Doering told reporters Wednesday before the indictment was returned that investigators believe the crime was random - something police hadn't said previously.

"We're comfortable now, six days into it, to say the location of the incident and the victim were random," Doering said. "I don't have any information that shows otherwise."

The grand jury also indicted three of Elkins' relatives on charges that they tried to help him after the shootings.

The suspect's mother, Karimah Elkins, and older sister, Sabrina Elkins, were charged with evidence tampering. The indictment says they threw the revolver that police suspect was used in the shooting into a saltwater pond where investigators recovered it Tuesday. Doering said the gun is being tested to see if it can be linked to the child's slaying.

Karimah Elkins and the suspect's aunt, Katrina Elkins, were also charged with making false statements to police. The indictment says the aunt told investigators her nephew was at her house when the slaying occurred - which she also told The Associated Press and other news outlets. It says the suspect's mother told police that her son was with her when the baby was shot.

Elkins' public defender has said he strongly believes his client is innocent. Gough has filed a court motion asking a judge to grant him access to mental health records of the slain boy's mother, saying they could be important to determining whether she's a credible witness.

"Obviously we're concerned about her credibility her ability to accurately recall events and identify anybody," Gough said. "If she suffers from any conditions that would do that, it would certainly be relevant to the case."

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Maevelyn
by Member on Mar. 28, 2013 at 1:23 PM

If the gun matches they did it. They wouldn't be inditing them if she were the only evidence. 

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 If she is the only thing pointing to these teens, the case should be dismissed. Her own daughter doesn't believe her.

I hope they have actual physical evidence of some kind to justify an arrest

Quoting Maevelyn:

Just read the article. Lovely, they're hoping they can find some reason to accuse the mother of being too mentally ill to identify the killers. LOVELY

 


sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Mar. 28, 2013 at 1:29 PM

 The teens have already been arrested and the gun wasnt found when they were..and the tests aren't back yet...

They were arrested based on the word of the mother...

As for the caliber matching, what does that prove? a good attorney would contest that it proves anything without fingerprints, DNA etc...

Have they found bloody clothes?

Quoting Maevelyn:

If the gun matches they did it. They wouldn't be inditing them if she were the only evidence. 

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 If she is the only thing pointing to these teens, the case should be dismissed. Her own daughter doesn't believe her.

I hope they have actual physical evidence of some kind to justify an arrest

Quoting Maevelyn:

Just read the article. Lovely, they're hoping they can find some reason to accuse the mother of being too mentally ill to identify the killers. LOVELY

 


 

Maevelyn
by Member on Mar. 28, 2013 at 1:42 PM

I meant matching a ballistics test (bc caliber is not really evidence) which is like a fingerprint for a gun. If their family admitted to hiding or attempting to destroy evidence and that evidence is found due to that admission that matches the crime it is likely their best defense will be to throw each other under the bus. I'm just operating under the assumption that the DA isn't an idiot and hasn't released every last bit of information to the media. 

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 The teens have already been arrested and the gun wasnt found when they were..and the tests aren't back yet...

They were arrested based on the word of the mother...

As for the caliber matching, what does that prove? a good attorney would contest that it proves anything without fingerprints, DNA etc...

Have they found bloody clothes?

Quoting Maevelyn:

If the gun matches they did it. They wouldn't be inditing them if she were the only evidence. 

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 If she is the only thing pointing to these teens, the case should be dismissed. Her own daughter doesn't believe her.

I hope they have actual physical evidence of some kind to justify an arrest

Quoting Maevelyn:

Just read the article. Lovely, they're hoping they can find some reason to accuse the mother of being too mentally ill to identify the killers. LOVELY

 


 


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