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 I have a question...why is it that you think that you should have the right to make personal medical decisions for strangers? Would you share your doctor's phone number with strangers and let them make the call on treatment options for you?

by on Mar. 29, 2013 at 1:35 PM
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chloedee
by Bronze Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 2:26 PM
That's perfectly fair and you sound like a great friend! :)

I usually associate that position more with a politically pro-choice one. As in, you're against it for yourself and would prefer it be minimized, but you'd allow other women to make the choice for themselves and keep it legal.


Quoting fireangel5:

I am personally pro life and I have never done anything against those who use their free will. I am however entitled to my opinion that life is sacred. If you chose to abort, that's on you, not me. I think its  horribly sad that you would do so, but it will not affect me. 

I have a friend who had an abortion when we are younger. While I didn't take her there, I was waiting for her at her home when she returned to sit with her. 


Quoting chloedee:

So you're personally pro-life, but wouldn't vote to make abortion illegal?





Quoting fireangel5:

So because I have an opinion different from yours. yet I do NOTHING to prevent you acting on your free will, suddenly I am making decisions for strangers? Why would I allow you or anyone to make medical decisions for me? I don't make them for you. Perhaps you would have disagreed with the course of action I took during my illness. You had your opinion but please explain how in any way, you having a THOUGHT differing from mine, affected me or my course of action in any way?







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LucyMom08
by Gold Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 2:27 PM

 Do you think it's ok to vote on a stranger's uterus?

Quoting 12hellokitty:

Are you against people having the choice to vote?

 

Quoting viv212:

If there was a ballot out, would you vote to make abortion illegal?

Quoting fireangel5:

So because I have an opinion different from yours. yet I do NOTHING to prevent you acting on your free will, suddenly I am making decisions for strangers? Why would I allow you or anyone to make medical decisions for me? I don't make them for you. Perhaps you would have disagreed with the course of action I took during my illness. You had your opinion but please explain how in any way, you having a THOUGHT differing from mine, affected me or my course of action in any way?

 

 

 

AMBG825
by on Mar. 29, 2013 at 2:30 PM
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then you have no clue as to what RvW was about or about what it means to be pro-choice. The entire abortion debate is 100% centered around women being able to make their own medical choices. 

Quoting talia-mom:

because you instantly lumped any woman that is pro-life into someone that wants to control your medical decisions.   That simply is not accurate at all.


Quoting LucyMom08:

 Why?

Quoting talia-mom:

That is not an accurate question for many women who are pro-life.

 









 

talia-mom
by Gold Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 2:31 PM
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I have plenty of understanding of the subject, thank you for your lecture though.


Quoting AMBG825:

then you have no clue as to what RvW was about or about what it means to be pro-choice. The entire abortion debate is 100% centered around women being able to make their own medical choices. 

Quoting talia-mom:

because you instantly lumped any woman that is pro-life into someone that wants to control your medical decisions.   That simply is not accurate at all.


Quoting LucyMom08:

 Why?

Quoting talia-mom:

That is not an accurate question for many women who are pro-life.

 






chloedee
by Bronze Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Very true. I think the OP left room for those pro-life women to clarify that.


Quoting talia-mom:

The question needs to be quantified.

Many women who are pro-life work endlessly to help these women through their pregnancies and after the birth because they believe that is the good and right thing to do.

They aren't out calling for making it illegal.  They lead by works and examples.



Quoting chloedee:

The pro-life position usually (not always) advocates for the prohibition or restriction of abortion. That would be advocating to control someone else's medical decisions.





Quoting talia-mom:

Because not everyone who is pro-life thinks that way.

Your bias is showing.





Quoting LucyMom08:

 Why is that not accurate?



Quoting talia-mom:



because you instantly lumped any woman that is pro-life into someone that wants to control your medical decisions.   That simply is not accurate at all.






Quoting LucyMom08:



 Why?



Quoting talia-mom:



That is not an accurate question for many women who are pro-life.



 









 











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fireangel5
by Gold Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 2:34 PM
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I think you have the ability to choose for yourself, however, if I had my way, you wouldn't choose abortion. But just as I won't march and hold signs of abortion to promote pro life, I won't march to hold signs saying you can choose. In my mind, that's the same as saying I agree with what you are doing. When I really don't but I won't go so far as to stop you nor shame you. But if you were to ask my opinion, I would obviously advocate for life. 

Quoting chloedee:

That's perfectly fair and you sound like a great friend! :)

I usually associate that position more with a politically pro-choice one. As in, you're against it for yourself and would prefer it be minimized, but you'd allow other women to make the choice for themselves and keep it legal.


Quoting fireangel5:

I am personally pro life and I have never done anything against those who use their free will. I am however entitled to my opinion that life is sacred. If you chose to abort, that's on you, not me. I think its  horribly sad that you would do so, but it will not affect me. 

I have a friend who had an abortion when we are younger. While I didn't take her there, I was waiting for her at her home when she returned to sit with her. 


Quoting chloedee:

So you're personally pro-life, but wouldn't vote to make abortion illegal?





Quoting fireangel5:

So because I have an opinion different from yours. yet I do NOTHING to prevent you acting on your free will, suddenly I am making decisions for strangers? Why would I allow you or anyone to make medical decisions for me? I don't make them for you. Perhaps you would have disagreed with the course of action I took during my illness. You had your opinion but please explain how in any way, you having a THOUGHT differing from mine, affected me or my course of action in any way?









talia-mom
by Gold Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM

I disagree.  She asked why do we think we have the right to control the medical decisions of others.

That wasn't not leaving any room for any other way of thinking.


Quoting chloedee:

Very true. I think the OP left room for those pro-life women to clarify that.


Quoting talia-mom:

The question needs to be quantified.

Many women who are pro-life work endlessly to help these women through their pregnancies and after the birth because they believe that is the good and right thing to do.

They aren't out calling for making it illegal.  They lead by works and examples.



Quoting chloedee:

The pro-life position usually (not always) advocates for the prohibition or restriction of abortion. That would be advocating to control someone else's medical decisions.





Quoting talia-mom:

Because not everyone who is pro-life thinks that way.

Your bias is showing.





Quoting LucyMom08:

 Why is that not accurate?



Quoting talia-mom:



because you instantly lumped any woman that is pro-life into someone that wants to control your medical decisions.   That simply is not accurate at all.






Quoting LucyMom08:



 Why?



Quoting talia-mom:



That is not an accurate question for many women who are pro-life.



 









 













LucyMom08
by Gold Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 2:38 PM

 So what is pro-life, to you?

Quoting talia-mom:

I disagree.  She asked why do we think we have the right to control the medical decisions of others.

That wasn't not leaving any room for any other way of thinking.

 

Quoting chloedee:

Very true. I think the OP left room for those pro-life women to clarify that.


Quoting talia-mom:

The question needs to be quantified.

Many women who are pro-life work endlessly to help these women through their pregnancies and after the birth because they believe that is the good and right thing to do.

They aren't out calling for making it illegal.  They lead by works and examples.

 


Quoting chloedee:

The pro-life position usually (not always) advocates for the prohibition or restriction of abortion. That would be advocating to control someone else's medical decisions.





Quoting talia-mom:

Because not everyone who is pro-life thinks that way.

Your bias is showing.

 

 



Quoting LucyMom08:

 Why is that not accurate?



Quoting talia-mom:



because you instantly lumped any woman that is pro-life into someone that wants to control your medical decisions.   That simply is not accurate at all.



 



Quoting LucyMom08:



 Why?



Quoting talia-mom:



That is not an accurate question for many women who are pro-life.



 



 



 



 

 



 



 


 


 

 

 

AMBG825
by on Mar. 29, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Apparently not if you don't know that pro-choice is about women being able to make their own medical decisions without interference from anyone else. 


Pro-choice has little to do with abortion and everything to do with the right to be able to go to your doctor and decide for yourself what medical procedures you can have. If you have ever read the RvW decision, (which I can tell you have not) then you would understand it has little to do with abortion and everything to do with making a decision about your medical care by yourself. 


Either that or you just hate women and think all women are stupid and need a man to make medical decisions for them. 

Quoting talia-mom:

I have plenty of understanding of the subject, thank you for your lecture though.


Quoting AMBG825:

then you have no clue as to what RvW was about or about what it means to be pro-choice. The entire abortion debate is 100% centered around women being able to make their own medical choices. 

Quoting talia-mom:

because you instantly lumped any woman that is pro-life into someone that wants to control your medical decisions.   That simply is not accurate at all.


Quoting LucyMom08:

 Why?

Quoting talia-mom:

That is not an accurate question for many women who are pro-life.

 












 

SandyLaxner
by Bronze Member on Mar. 29, 2013 at 2:41 PM
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Where is someone with a "beating a dead horse"pic?

Not to worry,no one is trying to take away your choice.

Abortion is still legal.

Though a post on CM is not going to change my thought that abortion stops a beating heart.

 

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