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Or just pro choice?

How far you go in life depends on your being: tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of both the weak and strong.  Because someday in life you would have been one or all of these.  GeorgeWashingtonCarver


by on Apr. 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM
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Friday
by HRH of MJ on Apr. 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM


Quoting jcribb16:

I'm glad you clarified that it is your opinion about that.  

When I was a kid, the only term/s used back then were "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion."  All pro-lifers don't try to be "self-righteous" and "moral superiority."  All pro-choicers don't either.  Some on both sides can go overboard with their stance, but for the most part, most just really care passionately for what they feel and believe on the matter of abortion.

As far as insulting those who disagree, that happens on both sides to both sides, by some who cannot tolerate others disagreeing, as if others aren't "allowed" to have their own views on the matter, unless it agrees with the other side.  That's beyond immature and ridiculous.

Quoting Friday:

Absolutely Pro-Choice.

IMO, the term 'pro-abortion' was simply coined by self righteous pro-lifers to claim their alleged moral superiority and insult those who disagree.


I never said all of anything think, say or do anything.

I never heard pro-abortion till I came to CM and every person I've seen use that term here is self righteous, does act like they are morally superior and is quite obviously using it to be inflammatory and insulting. Not all pro-lifers use the term and I never said they did, or anything close to that. I know many pro-lifers who are reasonable and can be respectful to those of various views.

I also never said that one side or the other holds the monopoly on insulting those who disagree. I was speaking very specifically about pro-lifers who throw out the term pro-abortion or pro-abort and cannot be respectful of others opinions. I find it quite rude to ignore the label another has chosen for themselves and arbitrarily assign one intended to insult.

 


Thank God......it's Friday!!!

jcribb16
by Silver Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 7:26 PM
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Nah, in my book, you are not a d.a.  :)

Quoting EireLass:

I guess I'll be the group dumb ass. I am pro-abortion.

Quoting glitterteaz:

anyone who uses the term pro-abortion is a MAJOR dumb ass!



jcribb16
by Silver Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Wow, touchy.   You may not have said "all" but you said "coined by pro-lifers,..." - you did not specifically say "all" nor did you say "some."  Up for interpretation.

The whole main point of my response was to tell you that when I was a KID, the terms commonly used were "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion."  It wasn't until I was married and started having children, that the terms changed. Those terms were the norm of that time in society and were updated later. You say you never heard of it until on CM - that's fine.  I was trying to give you a little background that I know about it.  Also, I'm several years older than you, which may would account for your not hearing of those older terms.

Quoting Friday:


Quoting jcribb16:

I'm glad you clarified that it is your opinion about that.  

When I was a kid, the only term/s used back then were "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion."  All pro-lifers don't try to be "self-righteous" and "moral superiority."  All pro-choicers don't either.  Some on both sides can go overboard with their stance, but for the most part, most just really care passionately for what they feel and believe on the matter of abortion.

As far as insulting those who disagree, that happens on both sides to both sides, by some who cannot tolerate others disagreeing, as if others aren't "allowed" to have their own views on the matter, unless it agrees with the other side.  That's beyond immature and ridiculous.

Quoting Friday:

Absolutely Pro-Choice.

IMO, the term 'pro-abortion' was simply coined by self righteous pro-lifers to claim their alleged moral superiority and insult those who disagree.


I never said all of anything think, say or do anything.

I never heard pro-abortion till I came to CM and every person I've seen use that term here is self righteous, does act like they are morally superior and is quite obviously using it to be inflammatory and insulting. Not all pro-lifers use the term and I never said they did, or anything close to that. I know many pro-lifers who are reasonable and can be respectful to those of various views.

I also never said that one side or the other holds the monopoly on insulting those who disagree. I was speaking very specifically about pro-lifers who throw out the term pro-abortion or pro-abort and cannot be respectful of others opinions. I find it quite rude to ignore the label another has chosen for themselves and arbitrarily assign one intended to insult.


LoveMyBoyK
by Ruby Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 7:45 PM
No more than you are anti choice for not believing a person should legally be allowed to CHOOSE to kill a, say, five year old.

Quoting denise3680:

 




Quoting jcribb16:


That is incorrect.


Quoting Suzy_Sunshine:


That is simply untrue. People who identify as 'pro life' are concerned exclusively with fetal life, they couldn't care less about actual humans!


Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

No, it does not. Unless you describe yourself as being anti choice for being against legalizing infanticide or murder. It is a way for some pro choicers to misrepresent the views of those who do not agree that fetal life is less worth protection than, say, newborn life.



Quoting Suzy_Sunshine:


Anti Choice accurately describes people who identify as 'pro life' (which does not describe their position accurately) but Pro Abortion only describes a relatively small subset of Pro Choice Americans.


Quoting LoveMyBoyK:

Pro abortion and anti choice are both inflammatory terms used by the opposing sides to deliberately misconstrue and misrepresent views they do not share.








If a person says they do not beleive a woman should have an abortion due to life starts at conception and then makes laws to prohibit that choice, they are anti-choice. 


 



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kaffedrikke
by Bronze Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM
Im only choice I hate abortion.
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GOBryan
by Silver Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 8:09 PM

I don't know anyone to be Pro-Abortion.. It's a necessary evil sometimes but I don't know anyone that intentionally gets pregnant just to get an abortion or enjoys getting one. 


Friday
by HRH of MJ on Apr. 5, 2013 at 8:18 PM


Quoting jcribb16:

Wow, touchy.   You may not have said "all" but you said "coined by pro-lifers,..." - you did not specifically say "all" nor did you say "some."  Up for interpretation.

The whole main point of my response was to tell you that when I was a KID, the terms commonly used were "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion."  It wasn't until I was married and started having children, that the terms changed. Those terms were the norm of that time in society and were updated later. You say you never heard of it until on CM - that's fine.  I was trying to give you a little background that I know about it.  Also, I'm several years older than you, which may would account for your not hearing of those older terms.

Quoting Friday:


Quoting jcribb16:

I'm glad you clarified that it is your opinion about that.  

When I was a kid, the only term/s used back then were "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion."  All pro-lifers don't try to be "self-righteous" and "moral superiority."  All pro-choicers don't either.  Some on both sides can go overboard with their stance, but for the most part, most just really care passionately for what they feel and believe on the matter of abortion.

As far as insulting those who disagree, that happens on both sides to both sides, by some who cannot tolerate others disagreeing, as if others aren't "allowed" to have their own views on the matter, unless it agrees with the other side.  That's beyond immature and ridiculous.

Quoting Friday:

Absolutely Pro-Choice.

IMO, the term 'pro-abortion' was simply coined by self righteous pro-lifers to claim their alleged moral superiority and insult those who disagree.


I never said all of anything think, say or do anything.

I never heard pro-abortion till I came to CM and every person I've seen use that term here is self righteous, does act like they are morally superior and is quite obviously using it to be inflammatory and insulting. Not all pro-lifers use the term and I never said they did, or anything close to that. I know many pro-lifers who are reasonable and can be respectful to those of various views.

I also never said that one side or the other holds the monopoly on insulting those who disagree. I was speaking very specifically about pro-lifers who throw out the term pro-abortion or pro-abort and cannot be respectful of others opinions. I find it quite rude to ignore the label another has chosen for themselves and arbitrarily assign one intended to insult.


No, not touchy just trying to explain my comments so that those such as yourself can better understand.

Are you saying it wasn't pro-lifers who coined that phrase? I really doubt it was pro-choicers.

Exactly, I didn't say all and I did say those who use the phrase are self righteous, etc. I never said all pro-lifers but of course you have to come in and search for something to take offense over, because that's what you do. Meh.

Commonly used by who? I was almost 40 when I joined CM and hung out on pretty Liberal sites prior, never saw pro-abort. Since pro-choice has been used since the 60's, I have to wonder how old you are and who you were hanging out with that you never heard it till after you got married. I was a kid in the 70's and it was pro-choice, not pro-abortion.

 


Thank God......it's Friday!!!

jcribb16
by Silver Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 8:24 PM

I don't know what I even try to discuss things with you like this.  Have a nice weekend.

Quoting Friday:


Quoting jcribb16:

Wow, touchy.   You may not have said "all" but you said "coined by pro-lifers,..." - you did not specifically say "all" nor did you say "some."  Up for interpretation.

The whole main point of my response was to tell you that when I was a KID, the terms commonly used were "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion."  It wasn't until I was married and started having children, that the terms changed. Those terms were the norm of that time in society and were updated later. You say you never heard of it until on CM - that's fine.  I was trying to give you a little background that I know about it.  Also, I'm several years older than you, which may would account for your not hearing of those older terms.

Quoting Friday:


Quoting jcribb16:

I'm glad you clarified that it is your opinion about that.  

When I was a kid, the only term/s used back then were "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion."  All pro-lifers don't try to be "self-righteous" and "moral superiority."  All pro-choicers don't either.  Some on both sides can go overboard with their stance, but for the most part, most just really care passionately for what they feel and believe on the matter of abortion.

As far as insulting those who disagree, that happens on both sides to both sides, by some who cannot tolerate others disagreeing, as if others aren't "allowed" to have their own views on the matter, unless it agrees with the other side.  That's beyond immature and ridiculous.

Quoting Friday:

Absolutely Pro-Choice.

IMO, the term 'pro-abortion' was simply coined by self righteous pro-lifers to claim their alleged moral superiority and insult those who disagree.


I never said all of anything think, say or do anything.

I never heard pro-abortion till I came to CM and every person I've seen use that term here is self righteous, does act like they are morally superior and is quite obviously using it to be inflammatory and insulting. Not all pro-lifers use the term and I never said they did, or anything close to that. I know many pro-lifers who are reasonable and can be respectful to those of various views.

I also never said that one side or the other holds the monopoly on insulting those who disagree. I was speaking very specifically about pro-lifers who throw out the term pro-abortion or pro-abort and cannot be respectful of others opinions. I find it quite rude to ignore the label another has chosen for themselves and arbitrarily assign one intended to insult.


No, not touchy just trying to explain my comments so that those such as yourself can better understand.

Are you saying it wasn't pro-lifers who coined that phrase? I really doubt it was pro-choicers.

Exactly, I didn't say all and I did say those who use the phrase are self righteous, etc. I never said all pro-lifers but of course you have to come in and search for something to take offense over, because that's what you do. Meh.

Commonly used by who? I was almost 40 when I joined CM and hung out on pretty Liberal sites prior, never saw pro-abort. Since pro-choice has been used since the 60's, I have to wonder how old you are and who you were hanging out with that you never heard it till after you got married. I was a kid in the 70's and it was pro-choice, not pro-abortion.


Friday
by HRH of MJ on Apr. 5, 2013 at 8:31 PM


Quoting jcribb16:

I don't know what I even try to discuss things with you like this.  Have a nice weekend.

Quoting Friday:


Quoting jcribb16:

Wow, touchy.   You may not have said "all" but you said "coined by pro-lifers,..." - you did not specifically say "all" nor did you say "some."  Up for interpretation.

The whole main point of my response was to tell you that when I was a KID, the terms commonly used were "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion."  It wasn't until I was married and started having children, that the terms changed. Those terms were the norm of that time in society and were updated later. You say you never heard of it until on CM - that's fine.  I was trying to give you a little background that I know about it.  Also, I'm several years older than you, which may would account for your not hearing of those older terms.

Quoting Friday:


Quoting jcribb16:

I'm glad you clarified that it is your opinion about that.  

When I was a kid, the only term/s used back then were "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion."  All pro-lifers don't try to be "self-righteous" and "moral superiority."  All pro-choicers don't either.  Some on both sides can go overboard with their stance, but for the most part, most just really care passionately for what they feel and believe on the matter of abortion.

As far as insulting those who disagree, that happens on both sides to both sides, by some who cannot tolerate others disagreeing, as if others aren't "allowed" to have their own views on the matter, unless it agrees with the other side.  That's beyond immature and ridiculous.

Quoting Friday:

Absolutely Pro-Choice.

IMO, the term 'pro-abortion' was simply coined by self righteous pro-lifers to claim their alleged moral superiority and insult those who disagree.


I never said all of anything think, say or do anything.

I never heard pro-abortion till I came to CM and every person I've seen use that term here is self righteous, does act like they are morally superior and is quite obviously using it to be inflammatory and insulting. Not all pro-lifers use the term and I never said they did, or anything close to that. I know many pro-lifers who are reasonable and can be respectful to those of various views.

I also never said that one side or the other holds the monopoly on insulting those who disagree. I was speaking very specifically about pro-lifers who throw out the term pro-abortion or pro-abort and cannot be respectful of others opinions. I find it quite rude to ignore the label another has chosen for themselves and arbitrarily assign one intended to insult.


No, not touchy just trying to explain my comments so that those such as yourself can better understand.

Are you saying it wasn't pro-lifers who coined that phrase? I really doubt it was pro-choicers.

Exactly, I didn't say all and I did say those who use the phrase are self righteous, etc. I never said all pro-lifers but of course you have to come in and search for something to take offense over, because that's what you do. Meh.

Commonly used by who? I was almost 40 when I joined CM and hung out on pretty Liberal sites prior, never saw pro-abort. Since pro-choice has been used since the 60's, I have to wonder how old you are and who you were hanging out with that you never heard it till after you got married. I was a kid in the 70's and it was pro-choice, not pro-abortion.


Maybe if you tried to actually discuss things instead of nagging and back-handed insults we'd get farther. I just gave back what you gave me, if it bothers you then you might want to think about treating others with more respect.

Have an awesome weekend.

 


Thank God......it's Friday!!!

gludwig2000
by Gina on Apr. 5, 2013 at 8:47 PM
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I must have had a truly demented childhood, because I thought everyone had heard that one, and I was only about 10 the first time I did,lol. In my defense, I didn't know what it meant, and when I asked, my mom wasn't too thrilled with me,hehe.
Quoting LindaClement:

OMG! No!

I love it! Gross... but hilarious!

Quoting gludwig2000:

Have you heard the one where the mom tells the kid "to think, I could have swallowed you" ?
Quoting LindaClement:

An argument for retroactive abortions ... as we used to say in jr. high :D

Quoting LntLckrsCmQut:

I am pro choice and pro abortion. I do believe there are women who truly need one. Especially on CM.



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