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Bannish the term "illegal immigrant"?

Posted by on Apr. 4, 2013 at 11:59 AM
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Language like "illegal immigrant" seen as a challenge during immigration debate

By Cindy Y. Rodriguez, CNN
updated 11:30 AM EDT, Thu April 4, 2013
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • Activists claim using "illegal" to define people can dehumanize them
  • Others argue it's the right word for the right description
  • Word choice -- as well as policy -- is under scrutiny in the immigration debate
  • And there's no obvious partisan divide

(CNN) -- There's the N-word and the F-word -- euphemisms for offensive terms many know but which most of us would never consider using in polite company. Now, there's another word activists are hoping to banish from public discussion -- "illegal" as in "illegal immigrant."

So far the campaign to "Drop the I-word" has had some limited success but that could change with immigration overhaul high on the president's to-do list and with both sides plotting strategies and how to get their point across.

Opponents of the term "illegal immigrant" find various things wrong with it: they say it's technically wrong, offensive and is used to apply to people who may not even want to stay in the United States permanently so they're not true "immigrants."

The term "illegal immigrant" is an oxymoron said Jonathan Rosa, an assistant professor of linguistic anthropology at the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

"It isn't a legal concept which is why you don't hear judges and lawyers using this terminology in the law. The U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act defines immigrants as people who have been lawfully admitted for permanent residence," said Rosa, "There's no such thing as an 'illegal immigrant' because if you are an immigrant, you're already legal."

But it's much more than grammar -- as in all arguments, the very words we choose can have an impact. Think of pro-life and pro-choice in the debate over abortion, or the absence we see now about people calling for "gun control" in favor of "gun violence prevention."

Journalist turned immigrant activist Jose Antonio Vargas, a supporter of the "Drop the I-Word" campaign, argues that using the term "illegal immigrant" to describe people is a racially charged tactic that skews the immigration debate and fuels hate and violence.

Vargas, who was sent from the Philippines as a child to join his grandparents in California, told a recent Senate Judiciary Committeehearing on immigration how he felt when he is called "illegal."

"I am the only one in my extended family of 25 Americans who is undocumented," he said, "When you inaccurately call me 'illegal,' you're not only dehumanizing me, you're offending them. No human being is illegal."

Vargas, who "came out" as an undocumented immigrant in a June 2011 essay in The New York Times Magazine, helped support the"Drop the I-Word" campaign to eliminate what it calls a "dehumanizing slur" from general use.

The argument is that the word "illegal" becomes dehumanizing when it brands an entire person, rather than an action they have taken. Opponents prefer a more specific word like "undocumented" be applied if it's needed at all.

CNN contributor Charles Garcia summed his view in a column last year: "In this country, there is still a presumption of innocence that requires a jury to convict someone of a crime. If you don't pay your taxes, are you an illegal? What if you get a speeding ticket? A murder conviction? No. You're still not an illegal. Even alleged terrorists and child molesters aren't labeled illegals."

"By becoming judge, jury and executioner, you dehumanize the individual and generate animosity toward them," Garcia wrote for CNN.

There isn't a clear partisan divide on this. Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, who supports updating immigration laws, tends to use the word "undocumented." But his Democratic colleague Sen. Chuck Schumer, who with Rubio and six others have authored new immigration legislation plans, called undocumented immigrants "illegals" on a recent appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

"Senator Schumer, even Senator Marco Rubio is using 'undocumented' these days. Get with the program," Latino Rebels posted on their site, "and let us know when you issue your statement explaining your insensitivity."

"There is certainly a more widespread awareness that terminology is contentious and part of the overall political battle for immigration reform," said Lina Newton, Ph.D. associate professor of Political Science at Hunter College and author of Illegal, Alien, or Immigrant: The Politics of Immigration Reform.

Newton said Rubio's use of "undocumented" instead of "illegal" was a way to distinguish himself and part ways with conservative Republicans on the subject.

"Regardless of where editors and reporters stand, public officials stand, I would say that people that are aware that these terms, like "illegals", "illegal immigrants" or "undocumented" are politically-laden," explained Newton, "How you use them will send a strong signal about where you stand politically on the issue."

That was widely seen to be the case with Mitt Romney's presidential campaign. He talked of "illegals" and promoting "self-deportation" in a way that was seen as off-putting to Latino voters, who favored President Obama over Romney by 71% to 27%.

Of course undocumented immigrants cannot vote, but many have close ties with Latino citizens, the Pew Research Hispanic Center found, who see deportation and rights for people brought to this country as children as a personal issue.

But there isn't agreement among all Latinos.

Ruben Navarrette, a contributor to CNN.com who writes frequently on immigration and issues affecting Latinos, voluched for the use of the "illegal" terminology.

"Immigration law is based in civil law, and that's why those who break it get deported and not imprisoned," he wrote, "But these people are still lawbreakers, and -- by definition -- illegal immigrants."

"The phrase is accurate. It's the shoe that fits. It's reality. And, as is often the case with reality, it's hard for some people to accept."

There are certainly many who refuse to accept the term "illegal", and who are fighting it.

It's not only unfair, it can be dangerous if it creates a racial stereotype that all Hispanics in the United States are view as "illegal" or lesser, the advocates behind "Drop the I-Word" say.

FBI statistics show hate crimes against Latinos made up 66% of the violence based on ethnicity, up from 45% in 2009. Marcelo Lucero, a 37-year-old Ecuadoran immigrant, became a victim of such a hate crime in 2008 when he was stabbed to death on Long Island by a group of teens who were quoted as saying, "Let's go find some Mexicans to f--- up."

Words matter and can help to form opinions. A national survey of non-Latinos last year by Latino Decisions and the National Hispanic Media Coalition found far more negative views of Latinos when they were described as "illegal" than when the "undocumented" label was applied.

And that explains why campaigns like "Drop the I-word" target mass media organizations who speak to millions of people. And why they're celebrating this week after the Associated Press news agency that supplies stories to newspapers, websites and organizations around the world announced it is changing its policy.

The AP had considered "illegal immigrant" as the best way to describe someone in a country without permission, but rewrote its style book in what it said was a broader effort to cut out labels. It will now tell users "'illegal' should describe only an action, such as living in or immigrating to a country illegally."

The New York Times -- the other main focus of Drop the I-word advocates -- is also reconsidering its language.

Other media outlets, including CNN, NBC News, The Huffington Post, ABC News/Univision, and Fox News Latino, already have a different lexicon.

CNN prefers the term "undocumented immigrant" when referring to an individual. The network doesn't use the terms "illegal" or "illegals" as nouns but considers it fine to use the term "illegal immigration" to discuss the issue.

Whether or not language in this instance will lead to social change of course remains to be seen. One advocacy group, Americans for Legal Immigration or ALIPAC, said it would "compensate" for AP's change by now using "illegal invaders" instead of "illegal immigrants" in its releases -- an indication perhaps that the issue of immigration remains contentious in the United States, the world's top destination for immigrants and where 13% of us were born outside the country.

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dustinsmom1
by JENN on Apr. 4, 2013 at 12:07 PM
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If you are here illegally, you are an illegal. If you don't want to be called an illegal, come here legally.

Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'!

tooptimistic
by Kelly on Apr. 4, 2013 at 12:07 PM
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We need immigration reform.

If you are not legally in the US, you an illegal immigrant. There's no getting around it.  If someone is here in US without having permission to be here, they broke they law, and are here illegally.

Its not a racial slur, its an accurate description.

tooptimistic
by Kelly on Apr. 4, 2013 at 12:08 PM
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LOL.. agree.


Quoting dustinsmom1:

If you are here illegaly, you are an illegal. If you dont want to be called an illegal, come here legally.



DestinyHLewis
by Destiny on Apr. 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM
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One more case where we can't call it like it is. Lordy. 

Sweetest_Britt
by Member on Apr. 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM
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This is one that I don't think I get. I get marriage equality...womens rights/civil rights. But trying to abolish the term "illegal immigrant" to describe someone here illegally?? I don't get it. o.O I get the grammatical point she makes, but for real...if you're here illegally...you're an ILLEGAL immigrant. You're not here on a work permit/education permit. You're here after you swam across a river....crossed a fence or a border WITHOUT permission....
OHgirlinCA
by Platinum Member on Apr. 4, 2013 at 12:13 PM
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 If you come here illegally, you are an illegal immigrant.  If you came here on a visa that has since expired, you are now here illegally.  Changing the terminology to undocumented immigrant does not change that fact. 

KKmommy3
by on Apr. 4, 2013 at 12:13 PM
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So sorry, but if you had to dig a hole and crawl under a fence, or swim here in the middle of the night, then you are an illegal immigrant.  If you came here with a work or education visa  that expired 10 years ago, you are an illegal immigrant.  If you are living here undocumented with the government, and work here without paying taxes, and reap the benefits provided by our taxpayers ie. welfare, healthcare, driver's licence, schools.  Then you are stealing  and theft is illegal.

brookiecookie87
by Platinum Member on Apr. 4, 2013 at 12:14 PM
Quoting dustinsmom1:

If you are here illegally, you are an illegal. If you don't want to be called an illegal, come here legally.

What about the people who cannot come here legally but still want a better life for their kids, and family?

Should they a) Just say screw it and live whatever horrible life that is worse than being labeled, "illegal"?
Or b) Try to provide the best life they can for their family?

If it puts it in perspective. What would you be willing to do for your family?

And I know you will fall back on the crutch arguement of, "It's illegal so they are illegal" except lots of people  don't believe it should be illegal for them to come here. So while accurate. They are an illegal immigrant. It is still dehumanizing to refer to someone as an illegal person.

Lots of these people are hard working people. It's understandable that they would not want to be dehumanized. It makes it harder to get changes to immigrantion laws when people view them all as criminals.

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talia-mom
by Gold Member on Apr. 4, 2013 at 12:17 PM
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Wouldn't whine about being called what I am. That is what I would do.


Quoting brookiecookie87:


Quoting dustinsmom1:

If you are here illegally, you are an illegal. If you don't want to be called an illegal, come here legally.

What about the people who cannot come here legally but still want a better life for their kids, and family?

Should they a) Just say screw it and live whatever horrible life that is worse than being labeled, "illegal"?
Or b) Try to provide the best life they can for their family?

If it puts it in perspective. What would you be willing to do for your family?

And I know you will fall back on the crutch arguement of, "It's illegal so they are illegal" except lots of people  don't believe it should be illegal for them to come here.

Lots of these people are hard working people.




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brookiecookie87
by Platinum Member on Apr. 4, 2013 at 12:19 PM


If you don't understand the importance of words. That's on you. Words can completely change the narrative of a story and events.

Quoting talia-mom:

Wouldn't whine about being called what I am. That is what I would do.
Quoting brookiecookie87:

Quoting dustinsmom1:

If you are here illegally, you are an illegal. If you don't want to be called an illegal, come here legally.

What about the people who cannot come here legally but still want a better life for their kids, and family?

Should they a) Just say screw it and live whatever horrible life that is worse than being labeled, "illegal"?
Or b) Try to provide the best life they can for their family?

If it puts it in perspective. What would you be willing to do for your family?

And I know you will fall back on the crutch arguement of, "It's illegal so they are illegal" except lots of people  don't believe it should be illegal for them to come here.

Lots of these people are hard working people.



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