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Flight diverted after family raises concerns over PG-13 inflight movie

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Something tells me this isn't the whole story...Should planes be required to only show rated G movies if there are kids on board? What are your thoughts on what happened and how this was handled?

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A family's criticism of inflight entertainment allegedly prompted a United flight to be diverted over "security concerns."

In a story published in The Atlantic, one family recounts traveling from Denver to Baltimore with two young sons, ages 4 and 8. During the flight, the PG-13-rated detective film "Alex Cross" was shown on drop-down monitors across the plane.

The family worried about their young children seeing inappropriate content in the film.

"Alarmed by the opening scenes, we asked two flight attendants if they could turn off the monitor; both claimed it was not possible," the family said, according to The Atlantic.

After some back and forth between the family and the flight crew, the family reportedly relented to the movie being shown and did their best to engage their children to keep them from watching the movie.

"We asked if the captain has the authority to address this issue, but received no response," the family said. "Throughout these interactions the atmosphere was collegial, no voices were raised and no threats, implicit or explicit, of any kind were made. The flight continued without incident, while my wife and I engaged our children to divert their attention from the horrific scenes on the movie screens."

But shortly after that, the captain announced the flight was being diverted to a Chicago airport due to "security concerns." 

When the family disembarked, they were questioned by law enforcement officials then booked on a new flight.

"United flight 638 from Denver to Baltimore diverted to Chicago O'Hare after the crew reported a disturbance involving a passenger," United Airlines told FoxNews.com. "The flight landed without incident and the customers were removed from the aircraft. We reaccommodated the customers on the next flight to Baltimore and have since conducted a full review of our inflight entertainment."

The family argues the captain overreacted to the incident.

"We understand that airline captains can and should have complete authority," the family said. "However, when this authority is used for senseless, vindictive acts, it must be addressed."

The family also contends that United should reassess the movies they screen to ensure they are appropriate for all audiences. 

"Had this been in a cinema or a restaurant, we would have simply left if the content were too violent," the family said. "Cruising at 30,000 feet, leaving was not an option.

 Sexy If its unladylike, fattening or fun, I'm in!
  

by on Apr. 5, 2013 at 2:03 PM
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Woodbabe
by Woodie on Apr. 5, 2013 at 2:16 PM
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So short of cancelling the whole movie for the entire plane or covering the screens of every monitor in the vicinity of the children (and blocking them off for other paying adults) what else could they have done? Should I lose my right to view the movie if there's a kid in the same area of the plane? As long as there wasn't any obvious nudity, sex or extreme violence, the kids can't hear the movie unless they are wearing a headset.

Seems to me that the parents should have anticipated that their lil precious might be exposed to something they couldnt' control and brought their own movie players for their kids.

Quoting teddysmama09:

 I don't think the parents were wrong at all. They simply asked if there was something which could be done so there children wouldn't be subjected to scenes which were inappropriate. They said they tried to devert the kids' attention, but any parent knows that when there's a screen in the room (no matter whats on it) the children will look. I can't for the life of me understand how causing a disruption in the travel plans of every passanger on the plain was the logical solution.


 Sexy If its unladylike, fattening or fun, I'm in!
  

OHgirlinCA
by Platinum Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 2:17 PM

 If the movie is showing and you're not allowing your children to listen to the movie through headphones, they will not know the context of the movie or hear anything inappropiate.  They will most likely become bored with watching a soundless movie, lose interest, and find something else to occupy themselves. 

I can't imagine a captain diverting a plane unless someone was being really unruly. 

norahsmommy
by Bronze Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 2:17 PM
This is a pg-13 movie? I think not.


Quoting Mrs.Kubalabuku:

Ok, I found a summary of the movie plot.  SPOILER for those who MIGHT want to see it someday!  SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER!




Plot

Dr. Alex Cross (Tyler Perry) is a psychologist and police lieutenant who lives in Detroit with his wife, Maria (Carmen Ejogo), their children, Damon and Janelle, and his mother, Nana Mama (In the original books the family live in Washington DC and Nana Mama is Cross's grandmother – in this film he calls her "Mama" and she calls him "Son"). Upon learning that Maria is pregnant with their third child, Cross considers accepting a job as an FBIprofiler with a 35 per cent pay rise, but fears Maria's reaction, as it would require them to relocate to Washington, D.C. Meanwhile, a man called Picasso (Matthew Fox) participates in an underground ultimate fighting match, where he flirts with businesswoman Fan Yau (Stephanie Jacobsen). After brutally beating his opponent, Picasso is invited to Fan Yau's house. There, he sedates, tortures, and kills her. He cuts off all her fingers and steals her laptop.

Police captain Richard Brookwell (John C. McGinley) calls Cross and his partner, Tommy Kane (Edward Burns), to the crime scene. On the way there, Cross tells Kane about Maria's pregnancy and the FBI's offer, and guesses that Kane is secretly dating their colleague, Monica Ashe (Rachel Nichols). Investigating Yau's murder, Cross deduces that Picasso is former military and a professional assassin. Cross finds a sketch left behind by Picasso and deduces that his next target is German businessman, Erich Nunemarcher (Werner Daehn). Cross, Kane and Ashe go to Nunemarcher's office but he has his own highly armed security and tells the police that he has no need of their help. Picasso, however, is already inside the building but is prevented from killing Nunemarcher by Cross, and escapes after being shot in the shoulder by Kane.

Cross realizes the real target is billionaire CEO Giles Mercier (Jean Reno). Cross informs Mercier that Picasso might be trying to kill him. Meanwhile, as revenge for their earlier interference, Picasso attacks Ashe, sedating and beating her; and later murders Maria with a sniper shot while she is at dinner with Cross to discuss her pregnancy and the possible move to Washington. At Cross's home after Maria's funeral, Picasso calls Cross to provoke him telling him that he (Cross) is responsible for Maria's death. Kane then finds out the drug Picasso uses on his victims paralyzes but does not numb the body, which meant Ashe felt everything Picasso did to her. Cross and Kane determine to bring him down. Cross has Detroit police take Nana Mama and the children out of the city, protecting them from Picasso.

Cross and Kane break into the evidence locker, and steal a gun. Later at a car lot, Cross blackmails Daramus Holiday to tell him where Picasso gets his drugs. Cross tells him that he knows Daramus killed someone with the gun he and Kane stole. Kane also threatens to shoot Holiday. Cross and Kane arrive at a drug dealer's hideout. After beating him, Cross demands that they see his security camera footage. Seeing the footage, Cross and Kane learn Picasso's car's license plate.

Cross and Kane learn Mercier is attending at a conference and fearing that this will be an opportunity for Picasso to kill him get Brookwell to clear the area. Picasso, however, does not need to be in the area as he fires a bazooka from a moving train. Cross and Kane chase after Picasso, and have Jody Kenbanoff, a fellow detective, trace the car at the Michigan Theater, which is now a car park. Cross and Kane corner Picasso by crashing their car, stopping him but injuring Kane. Cross chases Picasso into the abandoned cinema. During their fight, they fall through the crumbling theater roof. Cross manages to hold on to a beam but Picasso dangles from his belt. Picasso taunts him, Cross then knees him in his face yelling "Die!" and Picasso falls to his death below. Kane arrives just before Cross loses his grip.

Cross eventually learns that Picasso's employer was Mercier himself. Having embezzled money from his clients, Mercier asked for Yau and Nunemarcher's help to fake his death and flee to Bali, and then hired Picasso to eliminate Yau, Nunemarcher and a double pretending to be the real Mercier. Cross is able to frame Mercier for drug smuggling and informs the local police. Mercier is arrested in Indonesia where he will be condemned to death by firing squad. Having avenged Maria's murder, Cross decides to accept the FBI's offer and move to Washington with his family. Before he leaves, Kane reveals that he also applied for a job with the FBI. After expressing his hope that he and Cross will work together again one day, they part ways. Cross then walks up to the house and watches Janelle and Damon. Nana comes down from upstairs and tells the kids to make sure they have everything. She notices Cross, smiles, and adds, "You don't want to leave anything behind that you love." The film ends with Cross staring, lovingly, at his family.


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talia-mom
by Gold Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Did they ask no one could see it?   Not according to the posted story.

IF you don't want your 4 year watching people get killed in a movie, why is it wrong to ask if there is way to do something about it?


Quoting MissTacoBell:

Really? I don't like it so no one can? Ridiculous.



Mrs.Kubalabuku
by Bronze Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Yeah, that was my first thought reading through it, too.  He murders a pregnant woman?  Seduces and slices up still living victims?  But somehow, the rating is PG-13?  I don't know HOW they got that one through!


Quoting norahsmommy:

This is a pg-13 movie? I think not.


Quoting Mrs.Kubalabuku:

Ok, I found a summary of the movie plot.  SPOILER for those who MIGHT want to see it someday!  SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER!





Plot

Dr. Alex Cross (Tyler Perry) is a psychologist and police lieutenant who lives in Detroit with his wife, Maria (Carmen Ejogo), their children, Damon and Janelle, and his mother, Nana Mama (In the original books the family live in Washington DC and Nana Mama is Cross's grandmother – in this film he calls her "Mama" and she calls him "Son"). Upon learning that Maria is pregnant with their third child, Cross considers accepting a job as an FBIprofiler with a 35 per cent pay rise, but fears Maria's reaction, as it would require them to relocate to Washington, D.C. Meanwhile, a man called Picasso (Matthew Fox) participates in an underground ultimate fighting match, where he flirts with businesswoman Fan Yau (Stephanie Jacobsen). After brutally beating his opponent, Picasso is invited to Fan Yau's house. There, he sedates, tortures, and kills her. He cuts off all her fingers and steals her laptop.

Police captain Richard Brookwell (John C. McGinley) calls Cross and his partner, Tommy Kane (Edward Burns), to the crime scene. On the way there, Cross tells Kane about Maria's pregnancy and the FBI's offer, and guesses that Kane is secretly dating their colleague, Monica Ashe (Rachel Nichols). Investigating Yau's murder, Cross deduces that Picasso is former military and a professional assassin. Cross finds a sketch left behind by Picasso and deduces that his next target is German businessman, Erich Nunemarcher (Werner Daehn). Cross, Kane and Ashe go to Nunemarcher's office but he has his own highly armed security and tells the police that he has no need of their help. Picasso, however, is already inside the building but is prevented from killing Nunemarcher by Cross, and escapes after being shot in the shoulder by Kane.

Cross realizes the real target is billionaire CEO Giles Mercier (Jean Reno). Cross informs Mercier that Picasso might be trying to kill him. Meanwhile, as revenge for their earlier interference, Picasso attacks Ashe, sedating and beating her; and later murders Maria with a sniper shot while she is at dinner with Cross to discuss her pregnancy and the possible move to Washington. At Cross's home after Maria's funeral, Picasso calls Cross to provoke him telling him that he (Cross) is responsible for Maria's death. Kane then finds out the drug Picasso uses on his victims paralyzes but does not numb the body, which meant Ashe felt everything Picasso did to her. Cross and Kane determine to bring him down. Cross has Detroit police take Nana Mama and the children out of the city, protecting them from Picasso.

Cross and Kane break into the evidence locker, and steal a gun. Later at a car lot, Cross blackmails Daramus Holiday to tell him where Picasso gets his drugs. Cross tells him that he knows Daramus killed someone with the gun he and Kane stole. Kane also threatens to shoot Holiday. Cross and Kane arrive at a drug dealer's hideout. After beating him, Cross demands that they see his security camera footage. Seeing the footage, Cross and Kane learn Picasso's car's license plate.

Cross and Kane learn Mercier is attending at a conference and fearing that this will be an opportunity for Picasso to kill him get Brookwell to clear the area. Picasso, however, does not need to be in the area as he fires a bazooka from a moving train. Cross and Kane chase after Picasso, and have Jody Kenbanoff, a fellow detective, trace the car at the Michigan Theater, which is now a car park. Cross and Kane corner Picasso by crashing their car, stopping him but injuring Kane. Cross chases Picasso into the abandoned cinema. During their fight, they fall through the crumbling theater roof. Cross manages to hold on to a beam but Picasso dangles from his belt. Picasso taunts him, Cross then knees him in his face yelling "Die!" and Picasso falls to his death below. Kane arrives just before Cross loses his grip.

Cross eventually learns that Picasso's employer was Mercier himself. Having embezzled money from his clients, Mercier asked for Yau and Nunemarcher's help to fake his death and flee to Bali, and then hired Picasso to eliminate Yau, Nunemarcher and a double pretending to be the real Mercier. Cross is able to frame Mercier for drug smuggling and informs the local police. Mercier is arrested in Indonesia where he will be condemned to death by firing squad. Having avenged Maria's murder, Cross decides to accept the FBI's offer and move to Washington with his family. Before he leaves, Kane reveals that he also applied for a job with the FBI. After expressing his hope that he and Cross will work together again one day, they part ways. Cross then walks up to the house and watches Janelle and Damon. Nana comes down from upstairs and tells the kids to make sure they have everything. She notices Cross, smiles, and adds, "You don't want to leave anything behind that you love." The film ends with Cross staring, lovingly, at his family.




sweetnspacey
by Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 2:22 PM

OMG people just need to get over themselves. The whole world doesn't need to bow down to their ideas on parenting.

chloedee
by Bronze Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM

If that's just the written plot/backstory, lots of that may not be shown on screen and come up in dialogue instead.

Quoting Mrs.Kubalabuku:

Yeah, that was my first thought reading through it, too.  He murders a pregnant woman?  Seduces and slices up still living victims?  But somehow, the rating is PG-13?  I don't know HOW they got that one through!


Quoting norahsmommy:

This is a pg-13 movie? I think not.


Quoting Mrs.Kubalabuku:

Ok, I found a summary of the movie plot.  SPOILER for those who MIGHT want to see it someday!  SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER!





Plot

Dr. Alex Cross (Tyler Perry) is a psychologist and police lieutenant who lives in Detroit with his wife, Maria (Carmen Ejogo), their children, Damon and Janelle, and his mother, Nana Mama (In the original books the family live in Washington DC and Nana Mama is Cross's grandmother – in this film he calls her "Mama" and she calls him "Son"). Upon learning that Maria is pregnant with their third child, Cross considers accepting a job as an FBIprofiler with a 35 per cent pay rise, but fears Maria's reaction, as it would require them to relocate to Washington, D.C. Meanwhile, a man called Picasso (Matthew Fox) participates in an underground ultimate fighting match, where he flirts with businesswoman Fan Yau (Stephanie Jacobsen). After brutally beating his opponent, Picasso is invited to Fan Yau's house. There, he sedates, tortures, and kills her. He cuts off all her fingers and steals her laptop.

Police captain Richard Brookwell (John C. McGinley) calls Cross and his partner, Tommy Kane (Edward Burns), to the crime scene. On the way there, Cross tells Kane about Maria's pregnancy and the FBI's offer, and guesses that Kane is secretly dating their colleague, Monica Ashe (Rachel Nichols). Investigating Yau's murder, Cross deduces that Picasso is former military and a professional assassin. Cross finds a sketch left behind by Picasso and deduces that his next target is German businessman, Erich Nunemarcher (Werner Daehn). Cross, Kane and Ashe go to Nunemarcher's office but he has his own highly armed security and tells the police that he has no need of their help. Picasso, however, is already inside the building but is prevented from killing Nunemarcher by Cross, and escapes after being shot in the shoulder by Kane.

Cross realizes the real target is billionaire CEO Giles Mercier (Jean Reno). Cross informs Mercier that Picasso might be trying to kill him. Meanwhile, as revenge for their earlier interference, Picasso attacks Ashe, sedating and beating her; and later murders Maria with a sniper shot while she is at dinner with Cross to discuss her pregnancy and the possible move to Washington. At Cross's home after Maria's funeral, Picasso calls Cross to provoke him telling him that he (Cross) is responsible for Maria's death. Kane then finds out the drug Picasso uses on his victims paralyzes but does not numb the body, which meant Ashe felt everything Picasso did to her. Cross and Kane determine to bring him down. Cross has Detroit police take Nana Mama and the children out of the city, protecting them from Picasso.

Cross and Kane break into the evidence locker, and steal a gun. Later at a car lot, Cross blackmails Daramus Holiday to tell him where Picasso gets his drugs. Cross tells him that he knows Daramus killed someone with the gun he and Kane stole. Kane also threatens to shoot Holiday. Cross and Kane arrive at a drug dealer's hideout. After beating him, Cross demands that they see his security camera footage. Seeing the footage, Cross and Kane learn Picasso's car's license plate.

Cross and Kane learn Mercier is attending at a conference and fearing that this will be an opportunity for Picasso to kill him get Brookwell to clear the area. Picasso, however, does not need to be in the area as he fires a bazooka from a moving train. Cross and Kane chase after Picasso, and have Jody Kenbanoff, a fellow detective, trace the car at the Michigan Theater, which is now a car park. Cross and Kane corner Picasso by crashing their car, stopping him but injuring Kane. Cross chases Picasso into the abandoned cinema. During their fight, they fall through the crumbling theater roof. Cross manages to hold on to a beam but Picasso dangles from his belt. Picasso taunts him, Cross then knees him in his face yelling "Die!" and Picasso falls to his death below. Kane arrives just before Cross loses his grip.

Cross eventually learns that Picasso's employer was Mercier himself. Having embezzled money from his clients, Mercier asked for Yau and Nunemarcher's help to fake his death and flee to Bali, and then hired Picasso to eliminate Yau, Nunemarcher and a double pretending to be the real Mercier. Cross is able to frame Mercier for drug smuggling and informs the local police. Mercier is arrested in Indonesia where he will be condemned to death by firing squad. Having avenged Maria's murder, Cross decides to accept the FBI's offer and move to Washington with his family. Before he leaves, Kane reveals that he also applied for a job with the FBI. After expressing his hope that he and Cross will work together again one day, they part ways. Cross then walks up to the house and watches Janelle and Damon. Nana comes down from upstairs and tells the kids to make sure they have everything. She notices Cross, smiles, and adds, "You don't want to leave anything behind that you love." The film ends with Cross staring, lovingly, at his family.






MissTacoBell
by on Apr. 5, 2013 at 2:26 PM
All the TVs are wired together. You shut one off, you shut them all off. You change the film on one screen you change them all.

I've travelled with a 5 year old and the movie was decidedly PG13. I think it was when in Rome. Sex and booze. I just told her the movie wasn't for her and she wasn't to watch it. She *gasp* listened to me. End of story.

That said, Alex Cross is a horror flick as far as I understand them and I'd be mad about that too.


Quoting talia-mom:

Did they ask no one could see it?   Not according to the posted story.

IF you don't want your 4 year watching people get killed in a movie, why is it wrong to ask if there is way to do something about it?



Quoting MissTacoBell:

Really? I don't like it so no one can? Ridiculous.





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chloedee
by Bronze Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 2:27 PM

They asked for the movie to be changed, which would mean no one could see it. There's nothing wrong with asking, but after being informed that it wasn't possible to change it, it seems like the issue should have been dropped.

Quoting talia-mom:

Did they ask no one could see it?   Not according to the posted story.

IF you don't want your 4 year watching people get killed in a movie, why is it wrong to ask if there is way to do something about it?


Quoting MissTacoBell:

Really? I don't like it so no one can? Ridiculous.





Mrs.Kubalabuku
by Bronze Member on Apr. 5, 2013 at 2:28 PM
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I'm kind of pathetic, but I'm actually screening the movie now.  I hate to form an opinion until I know all the facts.  I'll let you know how that goes if you want.  So far...it's kind of a bad movie.  Suffering through it, fast forwarding some slow bad acting scenes...


Quoting chloedee:

If that's just the written plot/backstory, lots of that may not be shown on screen and come up in dialogue instead.

Quoting Mrs.Kubalabuku:

Yeah, that was my first thought reading through it, too.  He murders a pregnant woman?  Seduces and slices up still living victims?  But somehow, the rating is PG-13?  I don't know HOW they got that one through!


Quoting norahsmommy:

This is a pg-13 movie? I think not.


Quoting Mrs.Kubalabuku:

Ok, I found a summary of the movie plot.  SPOILER for those who MIGHT want to see it someday!  SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER!





Plot

Dr. Alex Cross (Tyler Perry) is a psychologist and police lieutenant who lives in Detroit with his wife, Maria (Carmen Ejogo), their children, Damon and Janelle, and his mother, Nana Mama (In the original books the family live in Washington DC and Nana Mama is Cross's grandmother – in this film he calls her "Mama" and she calls him "Son"). Upon learning that Maria is pregnant with their third child, Cross considers accepting a job as an FBIprofiler with a 35 per cent pay rise, but fears Maria's reaction, as it would require them to relocate to Washington, D.C. Meanwhile, a man called Picasso (Matthew Fox) participates in an underground ultimate fighting match, where he flirts with businesswoman Fan Yau (Stephanie Jacobsen). After brutally beating his opponent, Picasso is invited to Fan Yau's house. There, he sedates, tortures, and kills her. He cuts off all her fingers and steals her laptop.

Police captain Richard Brookwell (John C. McGinley) calls Cross and his partner, Tommy Kane (Edward Burns), to the crime scene. On the way there, Cross tells Kane about Maria's pregnancy and the FBI's offer, and guesses that Kane is secretly dating their colleague, Monica Ashe (Rachel Nichols). Investigating Yau's murder, Cross deduces that Picasso is former military and a professional assassin. Cross finds a sketch left behind by Picasso and deduces that his next target is German businessman, Erich Nunemarcher (Werner Daehn). Cross, Kane and Ashe go to Nunemarcher's office but he has his own highly armed security and tells the police that he has no need of their help. Picasso, however, is already inside the building but is prevented from killing Nunemarcher by Cross, and escapes after being shot in the shoulder by Kane.

Cross realizes the real target is billionaire CEO Giles Mercier (Jean Reno). Cross informs Mercier that Picasso might be trying to kill him. Meanwhile, as revenge for their earlier interference, Picasso attacks Ashe, sedating and beating her; and later murders Maria with a sniper shot while she is at dinner with Cross to discuss her pregnancy and the possible move to Washington. At Cross's home after Maria's funeral, Picasso calls Cross to provoke him telling him that he (Cross) is responsible for Maria's death. Kane then finds out the drug Picasso uses on his victims paralyzes but does not numb the body, which meant Ashe felt everything Picasso did to her. Cross and Kane determine to bring him down. Cross has Detroit police take Nana Mama and the children out of the city, protecting them from Picasso.

Cross and Kane break into the evidence locker, and steal a gun. Later at a car lot, Cross blackmails Daramus Holiday to tell him where Picasso gets his drugs. Cross tells him that he knows Daramus killed someone with the gun he and Kane stole. Kane also threatens to shoot Holiday. Cross and Kane arrive at a drug dealer's hideout. After beating him, Cross demands that they see his security camera footage. Seeing the footage, Cross and Kane learn Picasso's car's license plate.

Cross and Kane learn Mercier is attending at a conference and fearing that this will be an opportunity for Picasso to kill him get Brookwell to clear the area. Picasso, however, does not need to be in the area as he fires a bazooka from a moving train. Cross and Kane chase after Picasso, and have Jody Kenbanoff, a fellow detective, trace the car at the Michigan Theater, which is now a car park. Cross and Kane corner Picasso by crashing their car, stopping him but injuring Kane. Cross chases Picasso into the abandoned cinema. During their fight, they fall through the crumbling theater roof. Cross manages to hold on to a beam but Picasso dangles from his belt. Picasso taunts him, Cross then knees him in his face yelling "Die!" and Picasso falls to his death below. Kane arrives just before Cross loses his grip.

Cross eventually learns that Picasso's employer was Mercier himself. Having embezzled money from his clients, Mercier asked for Yau and Nunemarcher's help to fake his death and flee to Bali, and then hired Picasso to eliminate Yau, Nunemarcher and a double pretending to be the real Mercier. Cross is able to frame Mercier for drug smuggling and informs the local police. Mercier is arrested in Indonesia where he will be condemned to death by firing squad. Having avenged Maria's murder, Cross decides to accept the FBI's offer and move to Washington with his family. Before he leaves, Kane reveals that he also applied for a job with the FBI. After expressing his hope that he and Cross will work together again one day, they part ways. Cross then walks up to the house and watches Janelle and Damon. Nana comes down from upstairs and tells the kids to make sure they have everything. She notices Cross, smiles, and adds, "You don't want to leave anything behind that you love." The film ends with Cross staring, lovingly, at his family.








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