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A friend of mine posted this on her page.

If you do not support marriage equality, and you currently patronize any of these products/stores/sites...would you stop immediately upon finding out that they do support same sex marriage?


by on Apr. 7, 2013 at 9:45 AM
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Goodwoman614
by Satan on Apr. 7, 2013 at 10:53 AM
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Seems the new "arguement" against marriage equality is being a dumbass.

Conservative dumbassery, subgroup logical fallacy, #1,583: false equivalency.

talia-mom
by Gold Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Seems people can't truly be for marriage equality.

Unlike you, I don't care who the government recognizes as a legal union.


Quoting Goodwoman614:

Seems the new "arguement" against marriage equality is being a dumbass.

Conservative dumbassery, subgroup logical fallacy, #1,583: false equivalency.



romalove
by Roma on Apr. 7, 2013 at 10:56 AM
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Quoting talia-mom:

it is still same sex marriage.   Both are male.


So, why focus on the relative part?


Quoting lizzielouaf:

Did I say it was?


Quoting talia-mom:


Why is that wrong?


Quoting lizzielouaf:

That's not SSM, that is incest.





Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

So would it be acceptable if two brothers married each other or two sisters?








This is utter nonsense.

There is no reason you can't say marriage is between any two non-related consenting adults.

No kids

No animals

No incest

Why is it wrong?  Because there is an inequality in family relationships, power inequalities, that would disrupt healthy family relationships if we permit this sort of thing.  This is inherent in incestual relationships and can't be parsed out.  There is a benefit to society to maintain strong family relationships, and keeping those families incest free is important.


coolmommy2x
by Gold Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 10:56 AM
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Wow...from don't shop at Old Navy to incest is OK is bad. Even for this group.
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talia-mom
by Gold Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 10:59 AM

And there is no reason you can't say marriage is between two conscenting adults of the opposite sex.


Simply because of the ick factor of incest or polygamy should have no bearing on it.   If two siblings willingly consent to a relationship, why should the government have a say?   Same thing with a man and 4 women.

If we as a society truly believe in equality and freedom, then why are we limiting what the government will recognize between adults as legal?



Quoting romalove:


Quoting talia-mom:

it is still same sex marriage.   Both are male.


So, why focus on the relative part?


Quoting lizzielouaf:

Did I say it was?


Quoting talia-mom:


Why is that wrong?


Quoting lizzielouaf:

That's not SSM, that is incest.





Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

So would it be acceptable if two brothers married each other or two sisters?








This is utter nonsense.

There is no reason you can't say marriage is between any two non-related consenting adults.

No kids

No animals

No incest

Why is it wrong?  Because there is an inequality in family relationships, power inequalities, that would disrupt healthy family relationships if we permit this sort of thing.  This is inherent in incestual relationships and can't be parsed out.  There is a benefit to society to maintain strong family relationships, and keeping those families incest free is important.




lizmarie1975
by Gold Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Yeah, all I wanted to know was if people would continue to support companies that supported SSM...instead we're talking about siblings getting married.


Quoting coolmommy2x:

Wow...from don't shop at Old Navy to incest is OK is bad. Even for this group.

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talia-mom
by Gold Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Would you boycott a company that supported sibling marriage?




Quoting lizmarie1975:

Yeah, all I wanted to know was if people would continue to support companies that supported SSM...instead we're talking about siblings getting married.


Quoting coolmommy2x:

Wow...from don't shop at Old Navy to incest is OK is bad. Even for this group.



ashellbell
by shellbark on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:09 AM
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I like a lot of those stores. FTR, I also don't care if siblings marry.
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12hellokitty
by Platinum Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:13 AM

 


Quoting romalove:


Quoting talia-mom:

it is still same sex marriage.   Both are male.

 

So, why focus on the relative part?

 

Quoting lizzielouaf:

Did I say it was?


Quoting talia-mom:

 

Why is that wrong?


Quoting lizzielouaf:

That's not SSM, that is incest.





Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

So would it be acceptable if two brothers married each other or two sisters?


 


 


 

 

This is utter nonsense.

There is no reason you can't say marriage is between any two non-related consenting adults.

No kids

No animals

No incest

Why is it wrong?  Because there is an inequality in family relationships, power inequalities, that would disrupt healthy family relationships if we permit this sort of thing.  This is inherent in incestual relationships and can't be parsed out.  There is a benefit to society to maintain strong family relationships, and keeping those families incest free is important.


What?  I'm pretty sure we can re-define health family in some way that would allow for true marriage equality. 

 

romalove
by Roma on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:17 AM


Quoting talia-mom:

And there is no reason you can't say marriage is between two conscenting adults of the opposite sex.


Simply because of the ick factor of incest or polygamy should have no bearing on it.   If two siblings willingly consent to a relationship, why should the government have a say?   Same thing with a man and 4 women.

If we as a society truly believe in equality and freedom, then why are we limiting what the government will recognize between adults as legal?



Quoting romalove:


Quoting talia-mom:

it is still same sex marriage.   Both are male.


So, why focus on the relative part?


Quoting lizzielouaf:

Did I say it was?


Quoting talia-mom:


Why is that wrong?


Quoting lizzielouaf:

That's not SSM, that is incest.





Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

So would it be acceptable if two brothers married each other or two sisters?








This is utter nonsense.

There is no reason you can't say marriage is between any two non-related consenting adults.

No kids

No animals

No incest

Why is it wrong?  Because there is an inequality in family relationships, power inequalities, that would disrupt healthy family relationships if we permit this sort of thing.  This is inherent in incestual relationships and can't be parsed out.  There is a benefit to society to maintain strong family relationships, and keeping those families incest free is important.




You didn't pay attention.

I didn't say "ick" factor.

I said inherent power imbalances in families, including within sibling relationships.

There is reason to say that gay couples can marry, and the reason is mostly rooted in the tax codes, which give them a disadvantage over heterosexual couples.

It is easier to allow them to marry than to overhaul all of the tax codes.

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