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A friend of mine posted this on her page.

If you do not support marriage equality, and you currently patronize any of these products/stores/sites...would you stop immediately upon finding out that they do support same sex marriage?


by on Apr. 7, 2013 at 9:45 AM
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romalove
by Roma on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:18 AM


Quoting 12hellokitty:



Quoting romalove:


Quoting talia-mom:

it is still same sex marriage.   Both are male.


So, why focus on the relative part?


Quoting lizzielouaf:

Did I say it was?


Quoting talia-mom:


Why is that wrong?


Quoting lizzielouaf:

That's not SSM, that is incest.





Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

So would it be acceptable if two brothers married each other or two sisters?








This is utter nonsense.

There is no reason you can't say marriage is between any two non-related consenting adults.

No kids

No animals

No incest

Why is it wrong?  Because there is an inequality in family relationships, power inequalities, that would disrupt healthy family relationships if we permit this sort of thing.  This is inherent in incestual relationships and can't be parsed out.  There is a benefit to society to maintain strong family relationships, and keeping those families incest free is important.


What?  I'm pretty sure we can re-define health family in some way that would allow for true marriage equality. 


Explain please.

talia-mom
by Gold Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:20 AM
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So are we going to ban marriages where a wife is subservient due to the power imbalance? 

Simply because people are uncomfortable with these relationships, power issues or not, is not justification to tell two male siblings their love is forbidden and illegal.


Quoting romalove:


Quoting talia-mom:

And there is no reason you can't say marriage is between two conscenting adults of the opposite sex.


Simply because of the ick factor of incest or polygamy should have no bearing on it.   If two siblings willingly consent to a relationship, why should the government have a say?   Same thing with a man and 4 women.

If we as a society truly believe in equality and freedom, then why are we limiting what the government will recognize between adults as legal?



Quoting romalove:


Quoting talia-mom:

it is still same sex marriage.   Both are male.


So, why focus on the relative part?


Quoting lizzielouaf:

Did I say it was?


Quoting talia-mom:


Why is that wrong?


Quoting lizzielouaf:

That's not SSM, that is incest.





Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

So would it be acceptable if two brothers married each other or two sisters?








This is utter nonsense.

There is no reason you can't say marriage is between any two non-related consenting adults.

No kids

No animals

No incest

Why is it wrong?  Because there is an inequality in family relationships, power inequalities, that would disrupt healthy family relationships if we permit this sort of thing.  This is inherent in incestual relationships and can't be parsed out.  There is a benefit to society to maintain strong family relationships, and keeping those families incest free is important.




You didn't pay attention.

I didn't say "ick" factor.

I said inherent power imbalances in families, including within sibling relationships.

There is reason to say that gay couples can marry, and the reason is mostly rooted in the tax codes, which give them a disadvantage over heterosexual couples.

It is easier to allow them to marry than to overhaul all of the tax codes.



12hellokitty
by Platinum Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:33 AM

 

 

Quoting romalove:


Quoting 12hellokitty:

 

 

Quoting romalove:


Quoting talia-mom:

it is still same sex marriage.   Both are male.

 

So, why focus on the relative part?

 

Quoting lizzielouaf:

Did I say it was?


Quoting talia-mom:

 

Why is that wrong?


Quoting lizzielouaf:

That's not SSM, that is incest.





Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

So would it be acceptable if two brothers married each other or two sisters?


 


 


 

 

This is utter nonsense.

There is no reason you can't say marriage is between any two non-related consenting adults.

No kids

No animals

No incest

Why is it wrong?  Because there is an inequality in family relationships, power inequalities, that would disrupt healthy family relationships if we permit this sort of thing.  This is inherent in incestual relationships and can't be parsed out.  There is a benefit to society to maintain strong family relationships, and keeping those families incest free is important.


What?  I'm pretty sure we can re-define health family in some way that would allow for true marriage equality. 

 

Explain please.

Explain what?  Power inequalities can be shown in many different forms of relationships. 

In FACT history shows homosexuality among men is rooted in power inequality. 

 

Carpy
by Ruby Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:37 AM
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It could still be two consenting adults who just want to marry the one they love.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

That's not SSM, that is incest.


Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

So would it be acceptable if two brothers married each other or two sisters?


Bookwormy
by Platinum Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:37 AM
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I support boycotts. I support SSM, so I like to support businesses that support SSMs. Thanks for the list!
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Bookwormy
by Platinum Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM
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8th response is off-topic. Is that a record breaker or what???!!!


Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

So would it be acceptable if two brothers married each other or two sisters?

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Bookwormy
by Platinum Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:41 AM
I say this because this response has nada to do with boycotting.


Quoting Bookwormy:

8th response is off-topic. Is that a record breaker or what???!!!




Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

So would it be acceptable if two brothers married each other or two sisters?


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SEEKEROFSHELLS
by Platinum Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:41 AM
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 Oreo is a company? I thought Nabisco owned them. Good luck with folks giving up the double stuffed Oreo.

lizmarie1975
by Gold Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:52 AM
No


Quoting talia-mom:

Would you boycott a company that supported sibling marriage?





Quoting lizmarie1975:

Yeah, all I wanted to know was if people would continue to support companies that supported SSM...instead we're talking about siblings getting married.





Quoting coolmommy2x:

Wow...from don't shop at Old Navy to incest is OK is bad. Even for this group.






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lizzielouaf
by Gold Member on Apr. 7, 2013 at 11:59 AM
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You're 100% correct Carpy however currently outside the scope of the SSM agenda. Notice I said currently because we never do know what will be next, do we?


Quoting Carpy:

It could still be two consenting adults who just want to marry the one they love.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

That's not SSM, that is incest.





Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

So would it be acceptable if two brothers married each other or two sisters?




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