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I am DISGUSTED with this church. Update in Black update 2 in blue

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A couple of detectives came and talked to Amy's parents. They said they were dropping charges due to victors age and the fact that no physical harm was caused. So I guess the ass whoopin was the only punishment he received...

Later one of the girls in the group started pressuring Amy to go back to the church. R. has a crush who goes there and she didn't want to attend alone. And the other girls didin't want to miss out on the beach trip. A secret plan was made for everyone to go back except my DD because "we all know her mom would never let her go." Damn straight! All of the girls except dd did go back a few times.

I was also messaged on FB by a couple of members. They said they missed seeing my kids in church. After I explained why they were never going back, I was told that I wasn't being fair. The church had nothing to do with the incident happening, they were only responsible for the poor boy's salvation. Then I was asked nicely to stop trying to persuade the other girls from attending. I took a lot of self control but I managed to end the conversation without making and terrorist threats...

Victor's step dad came to Amy's house yesterday. Her step dad and his are friends from way back. Victor's dad asked, "So, did he get it in there?" A-Dad, "No." V-Dad "Well then what's the big deal?" "We can just drop this shit now." A-dad "No we can't drop this shit!" "He tried to Rape my daughter." "Get the fuck outta here!"     Later Victors mom shows up and talks to Amy and her mom. V-mom "Look I know what he did was wrong." "If you drop the charges I'll beat his ass right here in front of you." A-mom "Do you really think a spanking is going to fix this?"

As some of you know, I've been having problems with this church for some time. I've allowed my daughter to go only because she begged me and her friends are there. But last night was the last straw...

It started a couple days ago. DD and a few friends (all 13)were hanging out in front. When I came out I noticed one of the girls Amy was crying and the side of her face was pink and puffy. No one would tell me what happened. After she left I got the story.

Victor *Quick background* He's a bad boy from the neighborhood. He's rude and disruptive, swears, gets high in the bathrooms, verbally abuses other kids including my dd and has a habit of horse playing to the point of pain, all while in bible study! I've asked numerous times for him to be expelled but I was told Church was a place for sinners. He needs to be there.

Amy said after church on Sunday she was walking to her friends house when she ran into Victor. He asked her for money, she said no so her hit her in the face. Then him and 4 of his friends made her come to his house. Once inside they dragged her to a bedroom. While a boy held the door shut from the outside
 the other ones groped her. Victor climbed on top of her and pulled down his pants then tried to unbutton hers. He felt her up and said she couldn't leave until she sucked all of them. Then he said they should just murder her so she wouldn't tell. She fought and cried the whole time and was finally let go.

Amy was afraid and refused to tell her mom. (The families are friends) But I convinced her to talk to the pastor on Wednesday. Yesterday we all went down to the church. She told him everything, he called the police and her mom and a report was made. After, I was told that Victor would be expelled from church NEVER allowed back.

8 oclock that night, I'm on my way to pick dd up when I see Amy sprinting towards me from the church parking lot. Guess who showed up for bible study? Victor. The moment he walked into the room the teacher gave him a big hug and said we're soo glad to have you back! Here sweetie, have a candy. Then she proceeded to sit him right next to Amy. Amy bolted from the room and threw up in the bathroom. She waited in the hall for the other girls until after church was over.

To top it off, the pastor and his wife came and talked to her. Pastor said he strongly recommends she not press charges. The church can handle the investigation. And she better be certain of the events because if she's lying, she'll be the one in Juvie. And really, is it worth ruining this poor boys life over an argument? (They got the boys side of the story and were going with that)

I was LIVID!!! I marched up to the church and saw the pastors wife. She smiled sweetly at me and asked what the problem was. I responded, I don't like the fact that you allowed attempted rapists at your church, that's what. The crowd went silent. She gave me a sour look and said that's something that needs to be kept private.

The pastor walked up and took me aside and gave me his explanation. You see, it was her word against 5 boys. No one really knows what happened in that room if anything. Church is a place for salvation. She was given a choice to leave when Victor showed up. And really, you have to wonder why she chose to stay, hmmm? I told him that he disgusted me, his entire church disgusted me and my children would NEVER set foot on these grounds again. I turned, left and never looked back.

Update: Last night she got a call from Victor. The police were arresting one of other the boys. He begged her to recant. He didn't want to go to jail. He was sorry. Amy hung up and blocked his number.

by on Apr. 18, 2013 at 11:48 AM
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kailu1835
by Ruby Member on May. 21, 2013 at 2:41 AM
Holy expletive that I really shouldn't say! I cannot stand people like that. After what the pastors wife said I would have loudly stated each of the boys names and exactly what they had done so everyone in the church would know what the pastor and his wife were trying to cover up, and who the parents should make sure to keep their daughters away from.
paganbaby
by Teflon Don on May. 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Oh hindsight...

I really wish I would have!

Quoting kailu1835:

Holy expletive that I really shouldn't say! I cannot stand people like that. After what the pastors wife said I would have loudly stated each of the boys names and exactly what they had done so everyone in the church would know what the pastor and his wife were trying to cover up, and who the parents should make sure to keep their daughters away from.


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JoshRachelsMAMA
by JRM on May. 21, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Any new updates?

Quoting paganbaby:

Oh hindsight...

I really wish I would have!

Quoting kailu1835:

Holy expletive that I really shouldn't say! I cannot stand people like that. After what the pastors wife said I would have loudly stated each of the boys names and exactly what they had done so everyone in the church would know what the pastor and his wife were trying to cover up, and who the parents should make sure to keep their daughters away from.


kailu1835
by Ruby Member on May. 21, 2013 at 11:34 AM
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Heck, if they continue protecting these boys, I'd almost go hang flyers at the church!

Quoting paganbaby:

Oh hindsight...

I really wish I would have!

Quoting kailu1835:

Holy expletive that I really shouldn't say! I cannot stand people like that. After what the pastors wife said I would have loudly stated each of the boys names and exactly what they had done so everyone in the church would know what the pastor and his wife were trying to cover up, and who the parents should make sure to keep their daughters away from.


paganbaby
by Teflon Don on May. 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Oh yes there is! I'll add it to the op in a minute.

A couple of detectives came and talked to Amy's parents. They said they were dropping charges due to victors age and the fact that no physical harm was caused. So I guess the ass whoopin was the only punishment he received...

Then one of the girls in the group was pressuring Amy to go back to the church. R. has a crush who goes there and she doesn't want to attend alone. And the other girls didin't want to miss out on the beach trip. A secret plan was made for everyone to go back except my DD because "we all know her mom would never let her go." Damn straight! All of the girls except dd did go back a few times.

I was also messaged on FB by a couple of members. They said they missed seeing my kids in church. After I explained why they were never going back, I was told that I wasn't being fair. The church had nothing to do with the incident happening, they were only responsible for the poor boy's salvation. Then I was asked nicely to stop trying to persuade the other girls from attending. I took a lot of self control but I managed to end the conversation without making and terrorist threats...

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

Any new updates?

Quoting paganbaby:

Oh hindsight...

I really wish I would have!

Quoting kailu1835:

Holy expletive that I really shouldn't say! I cannot stand people like that. After what the pastors wife said I would have loudly stated each of the boys names and exactly what they had done so everyone in the church would know what the pastor and his wife were trying to cover up, and who the parents should make sure to keep their daughters away from.



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Thomigirl
by Gold Member on May. 21, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Sometimes...juuuust sometimes, people need to get the fuck off the internet telling their business and just handle shit like an adult (Shrugs)...just sayin'

paganbaby
by Teflon Don on May. 21, 2013 at 12:08 PM
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I did handle my business like an adult. And whether or not I blog about so I can get feedback from other women whom I like and respect, is my business also.

Quoting Thomigirl:

Sometimes...juuuust sometimes, people need to get the fuck off the internet telling their business and just handle shit like an adult (Shrugs)...just sayin'


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finnbar
by Silver Member on May. 21, 2013 at 12:16 PM
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Geez. It's like that church is asking for another incident. It is only a matter of time before a predator like this Victor does something on church property. Regardless of his salvation, the church has an obligation to maintain a safe environment for the other attendees. This creep is using the church as a place to find victims. nt
JoshRachelsMAMA
by JRM on May. 21, 2013 at 12:21 PM
You did the right thing. How's the new church working out for your daughter? I hope (I know) that you know all Christians are not like these you encountered in that church.

Quoting paganbaby:

Oh yes there is! I'll add it to the op in a minute.

A couple of detectives came and talked to Amy's parents. They said they were dropping charges due to victors age and the fact that no physical harm was caused. So I guess the ass whoopin was the only punishment he received...

Then one of the girls in the group was pressuring Amy to go back to the church. R. has a crush who goes there and she doesn't want to attend alone. And the other girls didin't want to miss out on the beach trip. A secret plan was made for everyone to go back except my DD because "we all know her mom would never let her go." Damn straight! All of the girls except dd did go back a few times.

I was also messaged on FB by a couple of members. They said they missed seeing my kids in church. After I explained why they were never going back, I was told that I wasn't being fair. The church had nothing to do with the incident happening, they were only responsible for the poor boy's salvation. Then I was asked nicely to stop trying to persuade the other girls from attending. I took a lot of self control but I managed to end the conversation without making and terrorist threats...

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

Any new updates?



Quoting paganbaby:

Oh hindsight...

I really wish I would have!

Quoting kailu1835:

Holy expletive that I really shouldn't say! I cannot stand people like that. After what the pastors wife said I would have loudly stated each of the boys names and exactly what they had done so everyone in the church would know what the pastor and his wife were trying to cover up, and who the parents should make sure to keep their daughters away from.



tiffluv81
by on May. 21, 2013 at 12:24 PM
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way to go Amy and Mom that sick little bastard.(sorry i never call kids that never but ooohh im so freaking and after reading this and to hell with those pastors.... Im disgusted.

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