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I don't care how anyone sugarcoats it-- this is ritualized child molestation.

Posted by on Apr. 22, 2013 at 3:19 PM
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New York (CNN) -- Two more infants have contracted the herpes virus after undergoing an ultra-Orthodox Jewish type of circumcision, which has been linked to the spread of the potentially deadly virus to newborn boys, according to the New York City Health Department.

In the ritual, known as metzitzah b'peh, after removing the foreskin of the penis the person performing the procedure places his mouth briefly over the wound, sucking a small amount of blood out, which is discarded. Antibacterial ointment is applied and the wound is bandaged. The health department says the procedure is dangerous because the contact with the mouth could transmit diseases such as herpes.

Most adults are infected with the herpes simplex virus type 1, and while they may have no symptoms, the virus may be present in their saliva, according to the health department. (It is different from herpes simplex virus type 2, which is usually transmitted sexually.)

"While HSV-1 in adults can cause the common cold sore, HSV-1 infection in newborns is very serious," a department statement says.

2012: Circumcision rite needs consent

Since 2000, there have been 13 reports in New York City of infants contracting HSV-1, two of whom died from the virus. The health department reported that an estimated 20,493 infants in New York City were exposed to the practice in that period.

In the most recent case, the infant developed a fever seven days after circumcision and vesicular lesions the following day, according to a press release from the city health department. Seventy percent of neonatal herpes cases show lesions and only 40% produce a fever.

The DOH passed a regulation in September requiring all those who perform the ritual to get parental consent on a form stating that the procedure can lead to health risks. Several Jewish groups and three rabbis filed a lawsuit in federal District Court in Manhattan arguing that "the government cannot compel the transmission of messages that the speaker does not want to express -- especially when the speaker is operating in an area of heightened First Amendment protection, such as a religious ritual."

Dr. Thomas A. Farley, commissioner of the city's health department, claimed the consent requirement was "lawful, appropriate and necessary" in a September press release. "The city's highest obligation is to protect its children; therefore, it is important that parents know the risks associated with the practice," he said.

Baby boys whose circumcisions likely involved the ritual between April 2006 and December 2011 had an estimated risk of contracting neonatal HSV-1 infection of 24.4 per 100,000 cases, 3.4 times greater than other infants, according to the health department.

"There is no safe way to perform oral suction on any open wound in a newborn," Farley said.

While Jews regularly practice circumcision as part of their religion, metzitzah b'peh is limited to a relatively small number of ultra-Orthodox Jews.

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.strawberry.
by Member on Apr. 22, 2013 at 11:14 PM

BUMP!

NWP
by guerrilla girl on Apr. 22, 2013 at 11:25 PM

I had never heard of this practice until this case was reported....and I lived an orthodox community in NYC. My experience is that the orthodox community kept to itself, and even though I lived in the neighborhood, most of my Jewish friends are reform.

TattedReader
by on Apr. 22, 2013 at 11:27 PM
wtf? I had no idea this went on..how is that even legal..ugh
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Mommy_of_Riley
by Jes on Apr. 22, 2013 at 11:29 PM
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More? :-/
Why won't the parents give police the Rabbi's name?!?!
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Goodwoman614
by Satan on Apr. 23, 2013 at 12:04 AM
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F that sh*t. 

A man's mouth does not belong on an infant's penis. 

Religion should not get a pass on this. 

turtle68
by Mahinaarangi on Apr. 23, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Im curious as to why this is actually performed.  Anyone know.

Is the rabbi performing the circumcision that blessed that he and only he can clean the wound?  Does it make the baby MORE jewish?  Will the baby be blessed with something more than a baby who is just routinely circ'd?

Or are they interpreting something out of their religious text that says "and now the rabbi shall cleanse the wound with his mouth"?

kailu1835
by Ruby Member on Apr. 23, 2013 at 1:28 AM
Agreed.
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SentRegards
by Member on Apr. 23, 2013 at 4:57 AM
Dont they circumcise at 14.... ?
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toomanypoodles
by Ruby Member on Apr. 23, 2013 at 5:00 AM
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Quoting Goodwoman614:

F that sh*t. 

A man's mouth does not belong on an infant's penis. 

Religion should not get a pass on this. 

 This.

It's sickening.  You do NOT do that!

toomanypoodles
by Ruby Member on Apr. 23, 2013 at 5:01 AM

 

Quoting SentRegards:

Dont they circumcise at 14.... ?

 No, and I believe it has to be a certain amount of hours after birth. 

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