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If we kill them as children, then they won't grow up to be gay

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Gay teens starved, tortured, killed at camp to turn them into ‘men’

Game ranger course 'general' is on trial for murder, child abuse, neglect and allegedly forced teen to eat his own faeces
Raymond Buys, seen laying on his death bed in April 2011, was allegedly starved, tortured and killed at a camp to turn him into a 'man'.

Three ‘gay and effeminate’ teens have died after being starved, tortured and killed at a camp that promised to turn them into 'men'.

A picture of Raymond Buys, 15, taken in April 2011 showed a skeletal, emaciated figure fighting for his life.

Just 10 weeks before, the teen’s parents signed him up to the Echo Wild Game Rangers training course in South Africa in perfect health.

In hospital, Buys was severely malnourished, dehydrated, his arm was broken in two places and there were burns and wounds all over his body. He lay in intensive care for four weeks until he died.

And now, the course ‘general’ Alex De Koker, 49, and employee Michael Erasmus, 20, are on trial for charges of murder, child abuse and neglect, along with two cases of assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm in relation to Buys' death.

The teen’s death is alleged to have been the third among the Afrikaans children who attended the R22,000 ($2,400, €1,900) courses, which have been advertized since 2006.

‘I sent my son on this course to make him a better man, to give him a better future,’ Buys’ mother told The Daily Telegraph. ‘I trusted Alex De Koker with his life.’

Last week, the Vereeniging District Court heard the testimony of a boy who had shared a tent with Buys, the Daily Maverick reports.

Gerhard Oostuizen, 19, claims Buys was chained to his bed every night, was refused permission to visit the toilet and on one occasion was forced to eat his own faeces.

He also said he would be beaten with planks, hosepipes and sticks when he failed to carry out manual labor tasks.

Oostuizen alleged further he saw De Koker tied Buys to a chair naked with his head covered in a pillowcase, and would electrocute him with a stun gun.

Gender activist Melanie Nathan has said the three young men were all perceived as ‘gay and clearly effeminate’.

In reference to ‘gay conversion camps’, Nathan writes: â€˜With a little bit of digging [into the story], the gay reparative undertones start to emerge.’

Eric Calitz, 18, and Nicolaas Van Der Walt, 19, had both died after being enrolled at the Echo Wild Game Rangers camp four years earlier.

When Calitz requested to leave, De Koker reportedly told him he ‘wasn’t a moffie [gay] and he would make a man out of him’.

Calitz’s family was informed of his death via text message, saying he had died of a heart attack.

Afterwards, doctors said the cause of death was from a seizure, dehydration and found bleeding from the brain.

Van Der Walt was also claimed to have died from a heart attack, but doctors said he had appeared to have been choked with a seatbelt.  

In 2009, De Koker was handed a suspended sentence over Calitz but escaped charges for the death of Van Der Walt, and the camp was allowed to continue.

Both De Koker and Erasmus have pleaded not guilty to the charges. The case continues.

         


by on May. 1, 2013 at 12:51 AM
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FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on May. 1, 2013 at 1:32 AM
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The where should not matter.  The fact that this is happening is horrifying.

Goodwoman614
by Satan on May. 1, 2013 at 1:33 AM
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I just cannot imagine the emotional pain these kids must suffer. 

First, to come to their own realization of their sexuality. To try to square that with the culture at large, as well as with what many of these kids know they will get from their own families.

Then to have the people they depend on for everything, their own parents, put them in a place like this...

this kind of rejection. 

It's why the suicide rate is so much higher for these kids. 

I wish I could take them all in.

autodidact
by Platinum Member on May. 1, 2013 at 1:37 AM


So what the fuck is your point? Like you'd care if this were done here, 

Quoting grandmab125:

 News flash....This isn't Africa.



Autodidact, Unrepentant Heathen

OrangeBalloon
by Member on May. 1, 2013 at 1:38 AM
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Ugh. I feel sick to my stomach. Why would any parent send their poor kid away to such places?
Goodwoman614
by Satan on May. 1, 2013 at 1:42 AM



Quoting OrangeBalloon:

Ugh. I feel sick to my stomach. Why would any parent send their poor kid away to such places?

I'm guessing, the majority of the time it's because their *holy book* (cough...gag) 

told them gay=evil.

grandmab125
by Gold Member on May. 1, 2013 at 1:51 AM

 I never said it was.  Of course it's horrific.

Quoting Elyssa414:

So..... Kids in Africa don't matter as much as kids in the US...?

This is horrible and devastating, regardless of country or continent.


Quoting grandmab125:

 I hardly think the "camps" in the USA are starving kids to death.


Quoting Healthystart30:


Quoting grandmab125:


 News flash....This isn't Africa.




News-flash American parents have been sending their children to camps like this!

 

 

grandma B

grandmab125
by Gold Member on May. 1, 2013 at 1:52 AM
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 Don't be an ass.

Quoting autodidact:

 

So what the fuck is your point? Like you'd care if this were done here, 

Quoting grandmab125:

 News flash....This isn't Africa.

 

 

 

grandma B

autodidact
by Platinum Member on May. 1, 2013 at 1:55 AM
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I'm not the one displaying the stunning lack of compassion, that's you.

Quoting grandmab125:

 Don't be an ass.

Quoting autodidact:


So what the fuck is your point? Like you'd care if this were done here, 

Quoting grandmab125:

 News flash....This isn't Africa.



 



Autodidact, Unrepentant Heathen

autodidact
by Platinum Member on May. 1, 2013 at 1:59 AM
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Actually: 


http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/washington/news.aspx?id=64627

Quoting grandmab125:

 I hardly think the "camps" in the USA are starving kids to death.

Quoting Healthystart30:

Quoting grandmab125:

 News flash....This isn't Africa.




News-flash American parents have been sending their children to camps like this!

 



Autodidact, Unrepentant Heathen

Healthystart30
by Silver Member on May. 1, 2013 at 2:00 AM
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Quoting grandmab125:




No, they are sending them overseas so they don't have to be subjected to American laws.

http://boingboing.net/2012/02/15/kidnapped-for-christ-document.html

Also being brainwashed and abused in a Utah camp

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=22096

Not all of these children were gay but some are sent just for that reason!

Just because nobody has died, doesn't make it right!
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