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Paul Ryan SUPPORTS adoption by gay couples, BUT...

He doesn't support gay marriage.

wait, what?


Paul Ryan Reverses Stance On Gay Adoption

link and video

The Huffington Post  |  By Posted:   |  Updated: 05/01/2013 9:29 am EDT

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Monday during a town hall event in Janesville, Wis., that he has changed his position on gay couples adopting children, WKOW reports.

An audience member at the event asked Ryan why he doesn't support same-sex marriage. Ryan said that while he continues to believe marriage should only be between a man and a woman, he now regrets voting in 1999 to ban same-sex couples in the District of Columbia from adopting children.

"Adoption, I’d vote differently these days. That was I think a vote I took in my first term, 1999 or 2000," Ryan said. "I do believe that if there are children who are orphans who do not have a loving person or couple, I think if a person wants to love and raise a child they ought to be able to do that. Period. I would vote that way."

Ryan, who served as 2012 Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's running mate, added that he had changed his position on same-sex adoptions years ago.

Click over to ThinkProgress to watch the video of Ryan's answer.

Romney's stance on the issue has come under scrutiny as well. In an interview with Fox News last May, Romney said he believed it was "fine" for gay couples to adopt children, an opinion he also held while serving as governor of Massachusetts. However, he later appeared to walk back his support, saying that he would only "acknowledge the fact that gay adoption is legal in all states but one."

by on May. 1, 2013 at 11:04 AM
Replies (31-40):
JCB911
by Bronze Member on May. 2, 2013 at 10:18 PM
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Good thinking.  I beleive he has 3 kids and they are young yet, under ten.  Maybe the oldest is around ten or so. Certainly 14 years ago he was child-free.

I found this post interesting, because I feel the exact same way.  A child should NOT be denied a loving home.  If that loving home happens to have two gay parents - eh, who cares.

The gay marriage issue.  I'm probably the only person who doesn't care that much to be honest.  In my perfect world gays would just have a union equal to marriage, but called something else ("garriage?" - j/k). That way they have the same rights, and the word "marriage" is left to those who find it important.  I'm indifferent though.  I think America has bigger things to worry about than to get distracted by this.


Quoting talia-mom:

Did he have kids at the time? Parenthood can change a perspective.


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toomanypoodles
by Ruby Member on May. 2, 2013 at 10:26 PM
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Quoting Momniscient:

And I think you are far from a good or even decent judge of who does an does not act worthy of being a Christian. Unfortunately I've met many christians like you.
And if you claim to have not said I'm not Christian then why did you put Christian in quotations when referring to me? Lol

I don't care if you think I'm nasty. I don't even care if you think I'm Christian enough. On that front you have zero authority and even less credibility.

But tell me poods since you didn't answer the question:

Is a WORD that important that you knowingly violate the safety of children by denying their parents the right to get married?


Quoting toomanypoodles:

 


Quoting Momniscient:

Lol.
But you told me the other day I wasn't Christian. Just trying to figure it out.

There you go lying again, mandi.  I said I didn't know how YOU call yourself a Christian.  I never said you weren't. 


If you claim it, then, good.  But you sure don't talk or behave as one.  You are a very mean and nasty girl.  I've never met a "Christian" like you. 

 I try so hard to just ignore you.  Why should I answer your questions?  You're just too snotty for me, Mandi.  I'd rather not talk to you at all. 

My responses to the subject have been made enough times in the past.  Go look for them. 

Momniscient
by Ruby Member on May. 2, 2013 at 10:29 PM
LOL!
You respond to tell me how you don't like me but won't answer the questions!

Is that the 'Christian' way?

So there we have it. Poods won't answer because she thinks the word is more important than the children's well being.

Is that also the Christian way? Interesting.


Quoting toomanypoodles:

 


Quoting Momniscient:

And I think you are far from a good or even decent judge of who does an does not act worthy of being a Christian. Unfortunately I've met many christians like you.
And if you claim to have not said I'm not Christian then why did you put Christian in quotations when referring to me? Lol

I don't care if you think I'm nasty. I don't even care if you think I'm Christian enough. On that front you have zero authority and even less credibility.

But tell me poods since you didn't answer the question:

Is a WORD that important that you knowingly violate the safety of children by denying their parents the right to get married?



Quoting toomanypoodles:


 



Quoting Momniscient:

Lol.
But you told me the other day I wasn't Christian. Just trying to figure it out.


There you go lying again, mandi.  I said I didn't know how YOU call yourself a Christian.  I never said you weren't. 



If you claim it, then, good.  But you sure don't talk or behave as one.  You are a very mean and nasty girl.  I've never met a "Christian" like you. 


 I try so hard to just ignore you.  Why should I answer your questions?  You're just too snotty for me, Mandi.  I'd rather not talk to you at all. 


My responses to the subject have been made enough times in the past.  Go look for them. 

toomanypoodles
by Ruby Member on May. 2, 2013 at 10:33 PM

 

Quoting Momniscient:

LOL!
You respond to tell me how you don't like me but won't answer the questions!

Is that the 'Christian' way?

So there we have it. Poods won't answer because she thinks the word is more important than the children's well being.

Is that also the Christian way? Interesting.


Quoting toomanypoodles:

 


Quoting Momniscient:

And I think you are far from a good or even decent judge of who does an does not act worthy of being a Christian. Unfortunately I've met many christians like you.
And if you claim to have not said I'm not Christian then why did you put Christian in quotations when referring to me? Lol

I don't care if you think I'm nasty. I don't even care if you think I'm Christian enough. On that front you have zero authority and even less credibility.

But tell me poods since you didn't answer the question:

Is a WORD that important that you knowingly violate the safety of children by denying their parents the right to get married?



Quoting toomanypoodles:


 



Quoting Momniscient:

Lol.
But you told me the other day I wasn't Christian. Just trying to figure it out.


There you go lying again, mandi.  I said I didn't know how YOU call yourself a Christian.  I never said you weren't. 



If you claim it, then, good.  But you sure don't talk or behave as one.  You are a very mean and nasty girl.  I've never met a "Christian" like you. 


 I try so hard to just ignore you.  Why should I answer your questions?  You're just too snotty for me, Mandi.  I'd rather not talk to you at all. 


My responses to the subject have been made enough times in the past.  Go look for them. 

 Are you blind or just really ignorant?

Did I say gays should NOT adopt?  Give them all rights of a marriage, just don't call iit marriage. "Marriage" is between one man, one woman. 

 Good grief, woman!

Done with you. 

chloedee
by Bronze Member on May. 2, 2013 at 10:34 PM
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While I don't know him, so I wouldn't go so far as to personally call him an asshole, saying that gay people are worthy of taking in kids but are not worthy of the legal protections and rights that come with marriage, which would make parenting them easier, does sound like a position that an asshole might take. 

Quoting fireangel5:

Ok, let me get this straight. He's an asshole if he doesn't support gay adoption but he's an asshole because he has changed and now supports it? Alright then.  I guess all of the people moaning how the republican party needs to "evolve" when it comes to gays, can't be satisfied. So bad if you don't support gays bad if you do support gays. So its really not about supporting gays, its just the fact that one is a republican. Gotcha, thanks for catching me up. 



fireangel5
by Gold Member on May. 2, 2013 at 10:36 PM

What about when Obama did it? I suppose it was ok then. 


Quoting PinkButterfly66:

They're going to spontaneous combust with all the flip/floping that they're doing now that they realize that their alignment with the fundies may cost them votes in their next election.



Momniscient
by Ruby Member on May. 2, 2013 at 10:36 PM
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So your ideas on the word marriage are more important than actually allowing children families that enjoy the legal protections of marriage.

How perfectly self righteous. Your such a good caring loving the children type gal.

As long as a word doesn't interfere.

What a crock of self righteous dog poopy.


Quoting toomanypoodles:

 


Quoting Momniscient:

LOL!
You respond to tell me how you don't like me but won't answer the questions!

Is that the 'Christian' way?

So there we have it. Poods won't answer because she thinks the word is more important than the children's well being.

Is that also the Christian way? Interesting.



Quoting toomanypoodles:


 



Quoting Momniscient:

And I think you are far from a good or even decent judge of who does an does not act worthy of being a Christian. Unfortunately I've met many christians like you.
And if you claim to have not said I'm not Christian then why did you put Christian in quotations when referring to me? Lol

I don't care if you think I'm nasty. I don't even care if you think I'm Christian enough. On that front you have zero authority and even less credibility.

But tell me poods since you didn't answer the question:

Is a WORD that important that you knowingly violate the safety of children by denying their parents the right to get married?




Quoting toomanypoodles:



 




Quoting Momniscient:

Lol.
But you told me the other day I wasn't Christian. Just trying to figure it out.



There you go lying again, mandi.  I said I didn't know how YOU call yourself a Christian.  I never said you weren't. 




If you claim it, then, good.  But you sure don't talk or behave as one.  You are a very mean and nasty girl.  I've never met a "Christian" like you. 



 I try so hard to just ignore you.  Why should I answer your questions?  You're just too snotty for me, Mandi.  I'd rather not talk to you at all. 



My responses to the subject have been made enough times in the past.  Go look for them. 


 Are you blind or just really ignorant?


Did I say gays should NOT adopt?  Give them all rights of a marriage, just don't call iit marriage. "Marriage" is between one man, one woman. 


 Good grief, woman!


Done with you. 

PinkButterfly66
by Silver Member on May. 2, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Ryan is a self-righteous asshole.  Obama came to the conclusion that gays should be able to marry. Ryan just feels that they should just be able to adopt but still not ok to marry.

Quoting fireangel5:

What about when Obama did it? I suppose it was ok then. 


Quoting PinkButterfly66:

They're going to spontaneous combust with all the flip/floping that they're doing now that they realize that their alignment with the fundies may cost them votes in their next election.




fireangel5
by Gold Member on May. 2, 2013 at 10:42 PM

My remark was more geared to another poster. I'm sorry, I should have quoted. My issue is that people are rolling their eyes that he has had a change of heart rather than be happy. 


Quoting chloedee:

While I don't know him, so I wouldn't go so far as to personally call him an asshole, saying that gay people are worthy of taking in kids but are not worthy of the legal protections and rights that come with marriage, which would make parenting them easier, does sound like a position that an asshole might take. 

Quoting fireangel5:

Ok, let me get this straight. He's an asshole if he doesn't support gay adoption but he's an asshole because he has changed and now supports it? Alright then.  I guess all of the people moaning how the republican party needs to "evolve" when it comes to gays, can't be satisfied. So bad if you don't support gays bad if you do support gays. So its really not about supporting gays, its just the fact that one is a republican. Gotcha, thanks for catching me up. 





fireangel5
by Gold Member on May. 2, 2013 at 10:43 PM

A flip flop is a flip flop.

If it's pandering for one, its pandering for all

Quoting PinkButterfly66:

Ryan is a self-righteous asshole.  Obama came to the conclusion that gays should be able to marry. Ryan just feels that they should just be able to adopt but still not ok to marry.

Quoting fireangel5:

What about when Obama did it? I suppose it was ok then. 


Quoting PinkButterfly66:

They're going to spontaneous combust with all the flip/floping that they're doing now that they realize that their alignment with the fundies may cost them votes in their next election.






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