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Tamerlan Tsarnaev Burial: No Cemetery Wants To Bury Bomb Suspect, Funeral Home Owner Says

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BOSTON -- A funeral home director was scrambling to find a cemetery that would bury a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings, ignoring protesters gathered outside his business and saying everybody deserves a dignified burial service no matter the circumstances of his or her death.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, died from "gunshot wounds of torso and extremities" and blunt trauma to his head and torso, said Worcester funeral home owner Peter Stefan, who has Tsarnaev's body and on Friday read details from his death certificate. The certificate lists the time of his death as 1:35 a.m. on April 19, four days after the deadly bombing, Stefan said.

Tsarnaev died after a gunfight with authorities who had launched a massive manhunt for him and his brother, ethnic Chechens from Russia who came to the United States about a decade ago. Police have said he ran out of ammunition before his younger brother dragged his body under a vehicle while fleeing.

Tsarnaev's family was making arrangements Friday for his funeral as investigators searched the woods near a college attended by 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who was captured less than a day after his brother's death.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev's body was released by the state medical examiner Thursday. It initially was taken to a North Attleborough funeral home, where it was greeted by about 20 protesters, before being taken to Stefan's Graham Putnam and Mahoney Funeral Parlors, which is familiar with Muslim services.

"My problem here is trying to find a gravesite. A lot of people don't want to do it. They don't want to be involved with this," said Stefan, who said dozens of protesters gathered outside his funeral home, upset with his decision to handle the service. "I keep bringing up the point of Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh or Ted Bundy. Somebody had to do those, too."

Meanwhile, two U.S. officials said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev told interrogators that he and his brother initially considered setting off their bombs on July Fourth.

Boston police said they planned to review security procedures for the Independence Day Boston Pops concert and fireworks display, which draws a crowd of more than 500,000 annually and is broadcast to a national TV audience. Authorities plan to look at security procedures for large events held in other cities, notably the massive New Year's Eve celebration held each year in New York City's Times Square, Massachusetts state police spokesman David Procopio said.

Gov. Deval Patrick said everything possible will be done to assure a safe event.

As part of the bombing investigation, federal, state and local authorities were searching the woods near the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth campus, where Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a student. Christina DiIorio-Sterling, a spokeswoman for U.S. Attorney Carmen Ortiz, could not say what investigators were looking for but said residents should know there is no threat to public safety.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who was found hiding in a tarp-covered boat in a backyard in Watertown, a Boston suburb, faces a charge of using a weapon of mass destruction to kill. Three of his college classmates were arrested Wednesday and accused of helping after the bombing to remove a laptop and backpack from his dormitory room before the FBI searched it.

The April 15 bombing, which used pressure cookers packed with explosives, nails, ball bearings and metal shards, killed three people and injured more than 260 others near the marathon's finish line.

The brothers decided to carry out the attack before Independence Day when they finished assembling the bombs, the surviving suspect told interrogators after he was arrested, according to two U.S. officials briefed on the investigation. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation.

Investigators believe some of the explosives used in the attack were assembled in Tamerlan Tsarnaev's home, though there may have been some assembly elsewhere, one of the officials said. It does not appear that the brothers ever had big, definitive plans, the official said.

The brothers' mother insists the allegations against them are lies.

Meanwhile, the Department of Homeland Security ordered border agents to immediately begin verifying that every international student who arrives in the U.S. has a valid student visa, according to an internal memorandum obtained Friday by The Associated Press. The new procedure is the government's first security change directly related to the Boston bombings.

The order from a senior official at U.S. Customs and Border Protection, David J. Murphy, was circulated Thursday and came one day after President Barack Obama's administration acknowledged that one of the students accused of hiding evidence, Azamat Tazhayakov, of Kazakhstan, was allowed to return to the U.S. in January without a valid student visa.

Tazhayakov's lawyer has said he had nothing to do with the bombing and was shocked by it.

Associated Press writers Bridget Murphy and Mark Pratt in Boston and Pete Yost, Eileen Sullivan and Alicia A. Caldwell in Washington contributed to this report

by on May. 4, 2013 at 1:48 PM
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talia-mom
by Gold Member on May. 4, 2013 at 8:11 PM
Why shouldn't they be able to say he was a fucking asshole killer, so nope. He can't get buried here to prevent other assholes from coming to his grave.


Quoting AlekD:

I didn't know cemetaries could just refuse to allow people to be buried there. He's dead, what harm could he do? That's kinda sad for his family. 


KreatingMe
by Bronze Member on May. 4, 2013 at 8:21 PM

I believe that. I'm sure there would be those that try. What I don't believe is there would be droves of traffic into said cemetery of people causing chaos and destruction. I don't think it would be on the scale that some here are claiming. I think it's a flimsy excuse to deny him a burial. I guess I don't put that much stock into a corpse. KWIM? To me, he's dead.  There's no point in punishing his remains or teaching him a lesson by now allowing him to be buried in the US. He's DEAD.  He doesn't need to punished by not allowing him to be buried here. He can't be punished anymore, at least not by humans. 

I'm try to be cautious about how I would react " if" because we don't really know until we're in a situation but honestly, if he were buried in my neighbors backyard, I don't think it would have any bearing on my life. 

Why not send a message that we can offer a little bit of dignity to his family? Who does it hurt? 

Quoting Sisteract:

Based on some of the nasty things people do, say, post- there would be those who would try.

Sickening, sad and true.

Quoting KreatingMe:

We have a serious freaking problem in our country, with our people, if there would streams of traffic entering a cemetery with people jumping at the chance to desecrate Tamerlan's grave! Do you really believe there are that many people who would carry out such deplorable actions? 

Quoting mama_l:

As a manager of a cemetery, I completely understand the concern and agree with not allowing the burial. Not only would you have to up security and constantly be filing insurance claims / police reports, paying for the desecration / increase traffic that would occur but you would lose loads of business. Who wants to be buried in the same land a terrorist was buried?




DestinyHLewis
by Destiny on May. 4, 2013 at 8:21 PM


Um no. Where did I say I owned a cemetery? 

Quoting KreatingMe:

Ohhh please, now you operate a cemetery too?  This is such a waste. 

Quoting DestinyHLewis:

I wouldn't allow him to be buried in my cemetery either. For a long list of reasons. He should be on the next flight out of out country to his native country. Let them honor him. We are not interested in honoring a terrorist.



mama_l
by Member on May. 4, 2013 at 8:22 PM
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Unfortunately, causing damage to gravesites is very common no matter if you are famous or not. Having a famous person, positive or negative, is an extra liability and can cause many problems to the land, graves surrounding the "famous" person and especially the persons gravesite. Whether positive (like Jim Morrison) or negative memorabilia is left it causes problems. The cost and time to maintain such a site can be quite extensive.


Quoting KreatingMe:

We have a serious freaking problem in our country, with our people, if there would streams of traffic entering a cemetery with people jumping at the chance to desecrate Tamerlan's grave! Do you really believe there are that many people who would carry out such deplorable actions? 

Quoting mama_l:

As a manager of a cemetery, I completely understand the concern and agree with not allowing the burial. Not only would you have to up security and constantly be filing insurance claims / police reports, paying for the desecration / increase traffic that would occur but you would lose loads of business. Who wants to be buried in the same land a terrorist was buried?





dawnie1
by #1 Raider fan on May. 4, 2013 at 8:27 PM
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Have his parents who are so sure he was framed, pay to send him back to where he came from.

jllcali
by Jane on May. 4, 2013 at 8:27 PM
Is cremating against islam?

Quoting EireLass:

You know one of the reasons he is at that particular funeral home is because he's Muslim.

Quoting jllcali:

What about cremating him and giving the ashes to his family? Then he won't have to be buried anywhere.


annabl1970
by Platinum Member on May. 4, 2013 at 8:36 PM

 

Islam forbids cremation

Quoting jllcali:

What about cremating him and giving the ashes to his family? Then he won't have to be buried anywhere.


 

annabl1970
by Platinum Member on May. 4, 2013 at 8:36 PM

 

No

Quoting Sisteract:

Is cremating acceptable in Islam?


 

annabl1970
by Platinum Member on May. 4, 2013 at 8:37 PM

 

Yes

Quoting jllcali:

Is cremating against islam?

Quoting EireLass:

You know one of the reasons he is at that particular funeral home is because he's Muslim.

Quoting jllcali:

What about cremating him and giving the ashes to his family? Then he won't have to be buried anywhere.



 

stormcris
by Christy on May. 4, 2013 at 8:46 PM
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Oh good grief. the person is dead and burial is not for the dead it is for the living and to show we are decent people. It is not even done for respect. Gah! Seriously until we fix some of the responses to these situations we are never going to stop such tragedies from occurring.

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