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When you say 'Gay marriage is inevitable,' do you mean rich people want it?

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You have no doubt heard the news that gay marriage is inevitable. The New York state legislature redefined marriage in 2011. Rhode Island redefined marriage earlier this week. Delaware just removed the gender requirement from marriage. Minnesota is poised to vote on the issue this week. This steady drumbeat of state legislatures changing the definition of marriage as it has been known for millennia surely must show that so-called gay marriage is inevitable.

But have you ever stopped to ask yourself what exactly people mean when they say this? Here is what I think:

"Gay marriage is inevitable" means that the rich people of both parties have decided that we are going to have genderless marriage.

Back in 2008, during the Prop 8 campaign, the two sides spent roughly equal amounts: about $40 million on each side. The Yes on 8 campaign had 100,000 volunteers, people of modest means from both parties. The opponents of Prop 8 simply couldn't match the volunteer effort. In that roughly fair fight, the people won.

The Gay Lobby immediately brought suit, paid for by Hollywood elitist "Meathead" Rob Reiner. Reiner generally finances Leftwing causes, so no real surprise there.

But as races developed in state legislatures, the Gay Lobby got reinforcements from not just Hollywood millionaires, but Republican billionaires. In New York State, Republican hedge-fund manager Paul E. Singer pumped money into the campaign coffers of pro-gay marriage Republicans. In the words of the Washington Post, "He coaxed Republican state senators in New York to back a same-sex marriage law in 2011, offering financial cover against backlash stemming from their votes, helping raise six figures for each of them." You would think they would show some shame over such blatant quid pro quo corruption. But hey, he's rich. He supports Republican candidates and Democratic causes, so who is going to confront him?

Just last week, Rhode Island voted to dismantle the only social institution we have that connects children with their parents. I saw another version of the same story, when I testified there in January. (I gave them a piece of my mind, too, as you can see here.)

When I arrived at the state house in Providence, I was stunned by the size of the crowds. The place was packed with African-American and Hispanic Evangelicals who opposed the marriage redefinition bill. I took some (very amateur) photos and videos. I had a feeling no one in the Mainstream Media would show those images. But about one thousand people supported natural marriage.

There were so few people advocating gay marriage that the media literally could barely find anyone to interview. (Full disclosure: this little story, published by the Ruth Institute, was written by a student of mine who showed up for the hearings.)

How did the marriage redefinition bill pass, given the opposition from traditionally Democratic constituents? Look at the professional side of the equation. One can track the number of lobbyists registered for each side of each bill on this page, from the Rhode Island Secretary of State. The House version of the marriage redefinition bill, H5015A has one lobbyist opposed: my buddy Chris Plante of NOM Rhode Island. The other side has 12 registered lobbyists. On the Senate side, the proponents of the marriage redefinition bill, S0038, have 18 lobbyists. Opposed? You guessed it. Chris Plante, all by his lonesome.

On one side, one thousand people of modest means and one registered lobbyist. One the other side, a comparative handful of people and 18 professional lobbyists.

Somebody must really hate the idea of gender, that they are paying that kind of money to remove all traces of gender from the law in a little state like Rhode Island.

Same story in Minnesota, where a vote on the marriage bill is expected this week. Minnesota for Marriage has one registered lobbyist. According to John Helmberger, Chairman of the Minnesota for Marriage, the other side has 12 lobbyists. Paul Singer's organization pumped a quarter million dollars to lobby Republicans to redefine marriage in Minnesota.

In Illinois, home of Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel, the sledding has been surprisingly tough for the Kids Don't Really Need a Mom and a Dad Crowd. The reason? The African-American pastorate, traditionally loyal Democrats, are not buying what the rich folk are selling. Check out this video of a press conference, where the pastors of many denominations express their opposition to redefining marriage. Beginning around seven minutes, Bishop Lance Davis of the New Zion Christian Fellowship decries the large amounts of money being thrown around to "undo the Bible and shove it down our throats."

The March for Marriage in Washington DC provided another setting where the economic contrast between the two sides jumped out at any honest observer. We came to rally for natural marriage on the day that the Supreme Court heard oral arguments on the Prop 8 case. There were 10,000 people on the side of natural marriage: busloads of Hispanic Pentecostals from the Bronx, Catholics from the Archdiocese of Philadelphia, a Catholic boys school with a band and banners, Chinese Evangelicals bused in from Delaware. And the Coalition of African American pastors sent pastors and people from all over the place. For some of these people, the bus fare was a financial hardship.

On the other side, a few hundred white people. These oh-so-politically correct folk were quite shocked to see the real Rainbow Coalition, our majority minority crowd, as we rounded the corner to march past the Supreme Court.

So when the Gay Lobby says "gay marriage is inevitable," what they really mean to say is this:

We have the money and the power to get what we want.

The ordinary people of both parties are resisting. We plan not to go along quietly, with the "inevitable" march of history.



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by on May. 9, 2013 at 7:50 PM
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Erinelizz
by Bronze Member on May. 9, 2013 at 8:59 PM
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lga1965
by on May. 9, 2013 at 9:03 PM

 thank you   :-)

Quoting ChutterButter:

So well said! I agree with everything you said here. Great response

Quoting lga1965:

 

So when the Gay Lobby says "gay marriage is inevitable," what they really mean to say is this:

We have the money and the power to get what we want.

The ordinary people of both parties are resisting. We plan not to go along quietly, with the "inevitable" march of history.

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What makes them think they speak for me and millions of other "ordinary people" ? What a silly thing...I copied that because it needs to be mentioned. Because it is ridiculous.

I'm not rich and I think gays and lesbians have the right to marry. People in love who want to be legally and spiritually bonded together by a marriage ceremony....that is the definition of marriage....what's wrong with that? I am happy that some "rich people" in Minnesota contributed lots of money to help .If I was rich, I would too. Same sex marriage is NOT a threat to anyone. This "rich people" theory is ridiculous.


 

lga1965
by on May. 9, 2013 at 9:05 PM
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 big smile miniyup !

Quoting UpSheRises:

Ordinary people aren't resisting. Ordinary people don't care about other peoples relationships. It's mostly bigots resisting...and that goodness bigotry isn't ordinary.

 

mehamil1
by Platinum Member on May. 9, 2013 at 9:07 PM
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I am not rich. 

I just believe in justice. It's inevitable not because of the finances (though that does play a role), it's because our culture has shifted from being assholes to being more inclusive. Ya'll will go out kicking and screaming, that's fine. Kick and scream about this all you want. You've already lost my generation and there's no back pedaling from that. 

Erinelizz
by Bronze Member on May. 9, 2013 at 9:07 PM
Lol!
Legal contracts grow on trees, doncha know.


Quoting autodidact:

lmao.

marriage isn't "natural", it's a social construct. 


AdrianneHill
by Platinum Member on May. 9, 2013 at 9:41 PM
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That's a feet stomping tantrum if I ever saw one. Like the Illuminati and visceral penis hatred thread from the other day, this guy is grasping at any possible reasons beyond the obvious truth that the bible alone is not reason enough to dictate ethical national standards of equal protection under the law.
. He prefers to believe in the inherent evil of the rich to explain away the inevitability of marriage equality yet supplies no reason for the wealthy and his own fellow republican legislators to buck the party rhetoric and support same sex marriage. He probably just assumes they done gone plum loco.
Kmary
by Member on May. 9, 2013 at 9:53 PM
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No, that statement has nothing to do with money.  It has to do with a cultural shift in the way we think about marriage, equality and people's personal business.  The same thing happened with interracial marriage.  There was a time when most Americans found it abhorrent, but thankfully the collective thinking evolved and thus, interracial marriage was inevitable.  Same deal with same sex marriage.

LauraKW
by "Dude!" on May. 9, 2013 at 10:00 PM
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I have a $20 in my purse and I want gay marriage to be legal. Make it so.
AdrianneHill
by Platinum Member on May. 9, 2013 at 10:09 PM
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You wealthy elites are always sticking it to the little guy.

You were supposed to be sticking it to just me but money changes everything.


Quoting LauraKW:

I have a $20 in my purse and I want gay marriage to be legal. Make it so.
marmie41
by Member on May. 9, 2013 at 11:11 PM
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Instead of putting millions of dollars for same sex marrige (which I have no problem with) how about using some of that money to teach hetro's how to stay married. We (hetro's) don't have a very good track record where marriage is concerned, just look at the divcorce rate in this countey. Maybe the gay community can do better.
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