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How big is the IRS scandal? Does it surprise you at all?

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 How far do you think this scandal goes? Does it surprise you to learn that the IRS is likely doing this to people?

"The IRS inspector general will release an audit sometime this week, but congressional aides gave several media outlets a draft of the audit. According to the document, IRS employees in the Cincinnati office used several troublesome phrases to single out 501(c)4 applicants for review — including, at various points between 2010 and May 2012, groups that 'criticize how the country is being run,' aim to educate Americans 'on the Constitution and Bill of Rights,' and lobby to 'make America a better place to live.'" [full story here]

 



by on May. 13, 2013 at 11:14 AM
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Farmlady09
by Silver Member on May. 13, 2013 at 1:24 PM
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I'm not surprised or shocked ~ just sad. This is what the liberal elitists (with their 'we know better and everyone should listen) sheeple mentality have brought us to. It's now a crime to stand up for what is in the Constitution, a crime to demand that your rights be upheld, and a crime to try and remind people what those rights are. Uncle Sammy no longer recognizes 'we the people' as the government. Why should he? Far too many of the people have ceded their rights in some bizarre effort to 'control' the neighbors because they think they know better.

The American Dream is just a myth now ... the government is corrupt from the top down and it's using every resource it can to grab control instead of serving. Since idiots are now the majority, it's now open season on those who understand this isn't the way things are supposed to be ... while the sheeple bleat about how smart they are and the good of the flock. Smh ~ wake up sheeple (especially those of you bleating that we should forget about Benghazi).

 

UpSheRises
by Platinum Member on May. 13, 2013 at 1:36 PM

What is the criteria for 501c4's according to the law or the administrative rules that govern them?

Was it the responsibility of regional IRS offices to determine it? I mean, sounds like congress wrote a shitty law and the IRS did a shitty job of administering it. I'm hesitant to place all the blame on the IRS, it really shouldn't have been left open to interpretation.

Carpy
by Ruby Member on May. 13, 2013 at 2:15 PM
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FDR was very bad for using the IRS to strong arm opponents.

Quoting NWP:

Are you under the assumption that Nixon was the first? Or that the IRS wasn't also used for political gain in that very case as well?

Why are people surprised that the IRS is a political tool? Ask how they caught Al Capone...and countless others when other avenues failed.

Quoting Billiejeens:



Nope Nixon tried it.


It was part of the articles of Impeachment drafted against him.


I am certain that you are for equal justice, yes?


Quoting NWP:


Are you under the assumption that this is new and that the IRS has not always been a tool for the government to target groups and individuals?


Quoting candlegal:




Does it surprise you at all?


Not even a tiny little bit.  This administration seems to be all about shutting people up.  How many of the Benghazi whistleblowers were threatened and demoted?








NWP
by guerrilla girl on May. 13, 2013 at 2:26 PM
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It is certainly nothing new. The IRS is probably the scariest part of gov't IMO.

Quoting Carpy:

FDR was very bad for using the IRS to strong arm opponents.

Quoting NWP:

Are you under the assumption that Nixon was the first? Or that the IRS wasn't also used for political gain in that very case as well?

Why are people surprised that the IRS is a political tool? Ask how they caught Al Capone...and countless others when other avenues failed.

Quoting Billiejeens:



Nope Nixon tried it.


It was part of the articles of Impeachment drafted against him.


I am certain that you are for equal justice, yes?


Quoting NWP:


Are you under the assumption that this is new and that the IRS has not always been a tool for the government to target groups and individuals?


Quoting candlegal:




Does it surprise you at all?


Not even a tiny little bit.  This administration seems to be all about shutting people up.  How many of the Benghazi whistleblowers were threatened and demoted?









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tnmomofive
by Bronze Member on May. 13, 2013 at 2:31 PM
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Precisely

Quoting Farmlady09:

I'm not surprised or shocked ~ just sad. This is what the liberal elitists (with their 'we know better and everyone should listen) sheeple mentality have brought us to. It's now a crime to stand up for what is in the Constitution, a crime to demand that your rights be upheld, and a crime to try and remind people what those rights are. Uncle Sammy no longer recognizes 'we the people' as the government. Why should he? Far too many of the people have ceded their rights in some bizarre effort to 'control' the neighbors because they think they know better.

The American Dream is just a myth now ... the government is corrupt from the top down and it's using every resource it can to grab control instead of serving. Since idiots are now the majority, it's now open season on those who understand this isn't the way things are supposed to be ... while the sheeple bleat about how smart they are and the good of the flock. Smh ~ wake up sheeple (especially those of you bleating that we should forget about Benghazi).




katy_kay08
by on May. 13, 2013 at 2:39 PM
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The IRS had the audacity to review applications for tax exempt status of political groups seeking to avoid paying taxes?!  Oh the horror!

Political groups seeking to influence elections are not eligible for tax exemptions.  IMO the "scandal" is in how many of these conservative groups attempted to fraudulently gain tax exempt status.  

supercarp
by Silver Member on May. 13, 2013 at 3:46 PM

I think the scandal was based on utter stupidity.

TranquilMind
by Platinum Member on May. 13, 2013 at 3:49 PM
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 No.  Not surprised at all. 

How DARE groups educate Americans on the Constitution! 

Carpy
by Ruby Member on May. 13, 2013 at 4:12 PM
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But oddly it was only those that leaned right who were targeted. Imagine that.

Quoting katy_kay08:

The IRS had the audacity to review applications for tax exempt status of political groups seeking to avoid paying taxes?!  Oh the horror!

Political groups seeking to influence elections are not eligible for tax exemptions.  IMO the "scandal" is in how many of these conservative groups attempted to fraudulently gain tax exempt status.  

Billiejeens
by Gold Member on May. 13, 2013 at 4:33 PM

 

Targeted Audits.

Discrimination.

I am sure you would be cool if every Black application for Public Assistance was target audited, yes?

The 'targets" were given forms to fill out, that basically covered everything that they had ever done, and anyone, that they had ever talked with.

Civil rights violation, clear and simple.

SSM not a civil right, freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom to be secure in ones papers and property, freedom to redress grievances against the government, civil rights.

Not even the loons in the media or Congess are defending this.

Anyone that didn't already know that you are simply a partisan hack and should be ignored, well that's over,

Quoting katy_kay08:

The IRS had the audacity to review applications for tax exempt status of political groups seeking to avoid paying taxes?!  Oh the horror!

Political groups seeking to influence elections are not eligible for tax exemptions.  IMO the "scandal" is in how many of these conservative groups attempted to fraudulently gain tax exempt status.  


 

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