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Second 'house of horrors' abortion clinic where doctor 'twisted heads off fetus' necks with his bare hands' is investigated in Texas

Posted by on May. 17, 2013 at 5:01 PM
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  • Houston doctor Douglas Karpen is accused by four former employees of delivering live babies during third-trimester abortions and killing them
  • Witnesses said he would either snip their spinal cords, stab a surgical instrument into their heads or twist their heads off with his hands
  • Texas Department of State Health Services is using in its investigating of the doctor
  • Accusations come days after Dr Kermit Gosnells was found guilty of murdering newborns at his Philadelphia abortion clinic

By Helen Pow

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A second 'house of horrors' abortion clinic is being investigated in Texas, just days after Dr Kermit Gosnell was found guilty of murdering newborns at his Philadelphia termination center.

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Dr. Douglas Karpen, seen here in court, is accused of killing babies aborted in their third trimester

Houston doctor Douglas Karpen is accused by four former employees of delivering live fetuses during third-trimester abortions and killing them by either snipping their spinal cord, stabbing a surgical instrument into their heads or 'twisting their heads off their necks with his own bare hands'.

Other times the fetus was so big he would have to pull it out of the womb in pieces, Karpen's ex-assistant, Deborah Edge, said in an Operation Rescue video, which has prompted a criminal investigation into the doctor.

'Sometimes he couldn't get the fetus out... he would yank pieces – piece by piece – when they were oversize,' Edge explained.

'And I'm talking about the whole floor dirty. I'm talking about me drenched in blood.'

Two of Edge's colleagues, Gigi Aguliar, and Krystal Rodriguez, also described the hellish scenes which took place at the Aaron Women's Clinic in Houston in 2011, and possibly two other abortion clinics run by Karpen in Texas.

Another staffer, who remains anonymous, filed an affidavit with her account of events, which the Texas Department of State Health Services is using in its investigation.

'We have several people looking into the allegations,' Harris County District Attorney spokesman Sara Marie Kinney told Chron.com.

Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst said he had read the allegations 'with disgust' before calling for a full investigation into Karpen and his clinics.

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Speaking out: Krystal Rodriguez, left, Deborah Edge, center, and Gigi Aguliar, right, have all come forward to talk about their former boss Karpan

Speaking out: Krystal Rodriguez, left, Deborah Edge, center, and Gigi Aguliar, right, have all come forward to talk about their former boss Karpan

Lifenews.com, an anti-abortion news website, has published cell phone photographs taken by the employees of fetuses with gashes in their necks after they were killed at the clinic, though these are far too gruesome for MailOnline to show.

Edge said fetuses were killed well after 24 weeks gestation at the Houston clinic, which resulted in a sweat-inducing job that took about an hour per procedure. She said every morning on multiple occasions she would see fetuses born alive and then quickly killed by the doctor.

 

'When he did an abortion, especially an over 20 week abortion, most of the time the fetus would come completely out before he either cut the spinal cord or he introduced one of the instruments into the soft spot of the fetus in order to kill it.... or actually twisting the head off the neck with his own bare hands,' she explained.

'It was still alive because it was still moving and you could see the stomach breathing.'

The women described one occasion where a fetus that Karpen thought was dead suddenly 'opened its eyes and grabbed (the doctor's) finger' after he wrenched it from the womb. However, it met a similar fate to the other fetuses at the clinic, the women said.

'He thought it was dead but the fetus actually opened its eyes and grabbed his finger,' Aguliar said. 'He was alive. He thought it was deceased already. He was getting ready to put it in the back.'

Crime scene: The hellish scenes allegedly took place at the Aaron Women's Clinic, pictured, in Houston in 2011, and possibly two other abortion clinics run by Karpen in Texas

Crime scene: The hellish scenes allegedly took place at the Aaron Women's Clinic, pictured, in Houston in 2011, and possibly two other abortion clinics run by Karpen in Texas

They also recounted occasions when women were so far along with their pregnancy they were actually induced into labor and in two cases their fetus' came out while they were in the bathroom.

Rodriguez described another incident where a patient's fetus fell from her and onto the floor in the clinic's waiting room.

'(Karpen) just picked it up with a Chux and put it in the trash bag,' she said.

According to Rodriguez, as long as patients had the cash, Karpen would perform an abortion well past 24 weeks. A late-term procedure cost between $4,000 and $5,000 at the clinic, they said in the video which was filmed as the clinic was still operating and released on Wednesday.

Edge said she regularly got upset during her work and couldn't watch when Karpen allegedly killed the newborns. But she said she didn't know that what he was doing was illegal.

'We used to look at each other and sometimes our tears would come out with the other assistants,' Edge said. 'We would always think "he's so greedy."'

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sillytime
by Bronze Member on May. 17, 2013 at 5:08 PM
OMFG! Wow! No words!
UpSheRises
by Platinum Member on May. 17, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Isn't that how late term abortions are done?

I thought they delivered the baby but before it full emerged from the birth canal they severed the spinal cord. I think i learned that in high school...is that not the case?

UpSheRises
by Platinum Member on May. 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM
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And...i think it sound like bullshit that they got paid to work at an abortion clinic but are calling the doctor greedy. Really girls? You cashed the checks, didn't you?

Ilovemybbgrl
by on May. 17, 2013 at 5:19 PM
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omg :'( this is so sad and horrible. I jusy couldnt even imagine. what a heartless person. Poor innocent babies. Stupid ass woman need their asses beat for killing their innocent babies omg he deserves everything he did to all those innocent brand new babies ten fold
simplegirl2321
by Member on May. 17, 2013 at 5:38 PM
If this is true it's horrifying and disgusting that people could do this.
jehosoba84
by Jenn on May. 17, 2013 at 6:16 PM

 So you're ok with late-term abortions? The baby isn't a baby if any part of it's anatomy is still un-delivered? And aren't late-term abortions illegal anyway, unless there's an immediate dire risk to the mother?

Quoting UpSheRises:

Isn't that how late term abortions are done?

I thought they delivered the baby but before it full emerged from the birth canal they severed the spinal cord. I think i learned that in high school...is that not the case?

 

OHgirlinCA
by Platinum Member on May. 17, 2013 at 6:21 PM
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 OMG!  No matter what side of the fence you are on the abortion issue, this is just completely disgusting. 

I just don't understand how anyone can work in a place like that.

UpSheRises
by Platinum Member on May. 17, 2013 at 6:22 PM

No, i think late term abortions are horrible and it's hard for me to believe that doctors would do them at all.

What i am trying to find out is if this is the standard legal procedure, like i thought it was, or not. If it is, i think this is just anti-abortion sensationalism, not a real news story. Gosnell wasn't just providing late term abortions.

I have no idea whether or not they are legal, it probably varies by state.

ETA: Wikipedia told me it was banned in 36 states but that there is no consensus on what constitutes "late term". Some say after 20 weeks, some say after 16. Personally, i'd say after 12 weeks.


Quoting jehosoba84:

 So you're ok with late-term abortions? The baby isn't a baby if any part of it's anatomy is still un-delivered? And aren't late-term abortions illegal anyway, unless there's an immediate dire risk to the mother?

Quoting UpSheRises:

Isn't that how late term abortions are done?

I thought they delivered the baby but before it full emerged from the birth canal they severed the spinal cord. I think i learned that in high school...is that not the case?

 



candlegal
by Judy on May. 17, 2013 at 6:26 PM

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Quoting simplegirl2321:

If this is true it's horrifying and disgusting that people could do this.


candlegal
by Judy on May. 17, 2013 at 6:27 PM
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Something tells me now that the ice has been broken we will be hearing about more and more of these clinics.

Quoting jehosoba84:

 So you're ok with late-term abortions? The baby isn't a baby if any part of it's anatomy is still un-delivered? And aren't late-term abortions illegal anyway, unless there's an immediate dire risk to the mother?

Quoting UpSheRises:

Isn't that how late term abortions are done?

I thought they delivered the baby but before it full emerged from the birth canal they severed the spinal cord. I think i learned that in high school...is that not the case?

 


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