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Bob Dole says Reagan couldnt make it in today's GOP. What say you?

Posted by on May. 26, 2013 at 7:15 PM
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Bob Dole says Reagan couldn't make it in today's GOP. Is he right?

Former Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole said Ronald Reagan wouldn't have been accepted in today's GOP. Maybe, like Dole, he just wouldn't have understood today's D.C.

When President Obama says Ronald Reagan would no longer win aRepublican primary, as he did in the heat of the 2012 presidential election, Grand Old Partyers are probably not inclined to spend too much time wondering where it all went wrong for their party.

But when a former Republican presidential candidateBob Dole, says essentially the same thing on Fox News, as he did Sunday ... well, Grand Old Partyers are probably still not going to get too worked up about it. But it might at least perk their ears a bit more.

The challenges facing the national Republican Party are well known, having been thrown into sharp relief last November. Mr. Obama soundly defeated Republican candidate Mitt Romneyamong women, minorities, and youth. In a race taking place amid a largely stagnant economy, a president seen as extremely vulnerable won the Electoral College tally, 332 to 206.

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It's a far cry from the days when Mr. Reagan won 49 of 50 states in 1984. Back then, there wereReagan Democrats. These days, it seems, there aren't even Bob Dole Republicans.

"Reagan couldn't have made it. Certainly, Nixon couldn't have made it, because he had ideas. We might've made it, but I doubt it," he said on Fox News Sunday.

Not content with saying that the most illustrious Republican leader of the past century would have been run out of his own party today because he had "ideas," Mr. Dole went further.

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"They ought to put a sign on the National Committee doors that says 'Closed for repairs,' until New Year's Day next year and spend that time going over ideas and positive agendas," he said.

We're guessing that he's now somewhere behind New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie on the list of prospective keynote speakers at next year's CPAC convention.

To some, his comments will sound like the sour grapes of a man whose time has passed. But that might be the very reason they are so telling.

There is no question Dole is a different political animal from many of the Republicans (or Democrats) currently on Capitol Hill. He was a legislator in what is increasingly becoming an outdated sense of the word: Someone who made deals. Yes, often in the proverbial smoke-filled backrooms. Yes, often greased with the pork of pet projects for legislators' districts. But deals nonetheless.

In his comments to Fox News, Dole did not just single out Republicans for their intransigence. He looked to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue with befuddlement, too.

"I think as a president, he lacks communication skills with his own party, let alone the Republican Party. And he's on the road too much," he said.

Translation: The president, like the Republicans, doesn't know how to make deals.

For Dole, who served as a senator from Kansas for 27 years, the idea of a Washington that doesn't know how to make deals is utterly foreign. It is Hollywood without egos, Detroit without automobiles, Atlanta without grits. Deals were Washington's very reason for being. Washington was political dealmaking. Without it, D.C. is just a bunch of squawking pinstripe suits.

Reagan was a part of that Washington. He made deals on immigration and on taxes. Bad ones, many conservatives would say. But deals nonetheless. They were part of his political DNA.

Could someone like that have passed the GOP's orthodoxy tests? Big ideas, after all, are just that – reaching across political lines.

The answer is not "yes" or "no." Like LeBron vs. Jordan, the answer is that different people adapt to different times. Would Reagan have rejected the current tea party-fueled ethic of political principlesüber alles and become another Arlen Specter? Or would he, like House Speaker John Boehner (R) of Ohio or Sen. John McCain (R) of Arizona – men who were once more like Dole – simply have adapted to the political realities of the day.

That is an unanswerable question. But Dole is asking it.

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by on May. 26, 2013 at 7:15 PM
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cjsbmom
by Lois Lane on May. 26, 2013 at 7:16 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree, which is why I laugh my ass off every time a member of today's GOP talks about how great their idol, Ronny Reagan, was. If that man was alive and in politics today, he'd probably be as hated as Obama.....

ashellbell
by shellbark on May. 26, 2013 at 7:18 PM
I agree with him. They should start a new party of old school republicans.
.Bubbles.
by Silver Member on May. 26, 2013 at 7:19 PM
He makes a lot of excellent points.
SLTmom
by Silver Member on May. 26, 2013 at 7:22 PM

I agree 100%. The days of actual give and take in politics is gone.  Now, it's all about how can we screw the other side?


And, as always, the American people suffer.

romalove
by Roma on May. 26, 2013 at 7:24 PM

I agree.

He would have seemed too liberal.

trippyhippy
by Gold Member on May. 26, 2013 at 8:32 PM

I've always thought this.

thatgirl70
by Bronze Member on May. 26, 2013 at 10:31 PM
I definitely agree, he would not fit in at all.
lga1965
by on May. 26, 2013 at 10:40 PM
I don't know how he was ever elected....as governor or President. He had no experience and all he had going for him was good looks and slick talk.
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DropZoneMom
by Bronze Member on May. 26, 2013 at 10:49 PM
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Dole is 100% correct.  Today's republican party is led by tea party radicals who are just as extreme as the muslims who took down the towers on 9/11.   They don't give a shit about our country -- only about the 1% who contribute the most to their campaign coffers.   They claim to want 'smaller government' -- but have no problem sticking their noses into consenting adults' bedrooms and womens' uteruses.   They're hypocrits, and a complete DISGRACE.

cjsbmom
by Lois Lane on May. 27, 2013 at 8:37 AM
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Quoting lga1965:

I don't know how he was ever elected....as governor or President. He had no experience and all he had going for him was good looks and slick talk.

But he was able to get politicians from both sides to meet on issues and work things out so that things actually got accomplished. But then again, politicians from that era were more middle of the road and less "screw you other side of the aisle."

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