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Man who put young vandals in closet faces charges

NY man who says 4 kids vandalized home is charged

CLYDE, N.Y. (AP) — A man who says he caught four boys vandalizing his father-in-law's home has been charged with child endangerment after corralling them in a closet until police arrived.

Jesse Daniels was arraigned on four counts of endangering the welfare of a child after authorities say he interrupted the vandalism at the empty home in the Wayne County village of Clyde, midway between Rochester and Syracuse.

Daniels, 53, told WHAM-TV in Rochester that he heard pounding coming from the home next door the night of June 8. The house is empty while Daniels renovates it for his father-in-law.

Daniels said he went to investigate while his wife called 911. He said he found four boys, ages 8 and 10, inside with hammers. He took a hammer from one, then stuck the boys in a closet until officers arrived, he said.

"I was fortunate that they were in that room that had a closet, so I put them in the closet," he said. "I said, 'Listen, you guys are staying here until the police come, period.'"

Their parents said Daniels handled the boys roughly and threatened them with the hammer.

The damage to the home included holes in the walls, broken windows and graffiti derogatory to women spray-painted on walls. Daniels estimated that the damage to his father-in-law's property exceeds $40,000.

He said he believed the boys committed the vandalism in retaliation for Daniels' wife telling them earlier in the day to stay off the couple's property.

The boys have been charged with burglary and criminal mischief. Their cases are being handled in Wayne County Family Court.

Paul Bowler, the father of two of the boys, told the station that there are no excuses for his sons' actions.

"I understand they were in the wrong, but there are other ways to handle it," he said. "He (Daniels) knew who the kids were. It's not like they were strangers. And send the kids home and call the cops then. You don't sit there and torment them and tell them you're going to bash their skulls in with a hammer."

Bowler said Daniels grabbed the neck of one of his sons and left a mark. He said that his boys are traumatized and that Daniels should have faced more charges.

Daniels counters that he was just trying to protect his family.

Daniels is due back in court later this month. It wasn't immediately clear if he has a lawyer.

Wayne County District Attorney Richard Healy told the station that the incident is still under investigation.

by on Jun. 17, 2013 at 10:23 PM
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lizzielouaf
by Gold Member on Jun. 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM


Well let's all hope these boys learn on their own, given enough time and patience. 

Quoting FromAtoZ:

This ticks me off.

The little punks can do what they did but when some one tries to keep them at the scene of the crime until police arrive, he is made out to be the bad guy.

Send the kids home and then call the cops?  No.  I would not do that either.  

Seems the parents of the kids are not nearly as interested in what their children did as they should be.

If he did indeed man handle the boys the boys should consider themselves lucky they are not actual men.  You break in to some one's home you run the risk.  I just can't come up with a lot of sympathy for the kids.  




SuperChicken
by on Jun. 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM
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Poor precious snowflakes :(   What a big old meanie head that man was!

Their parents should be writhing with shame for raising such brats, and they should be pulling out their wallets to pay for the damage caused too.    I cannot believe how freaking clueless some parents are.

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Jun. 18, 2013 at 12:03 PM
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Quoting lizzielouaf:


Well let's all hope these boys learn on their own, given enough time and patience. 

Quoting FromAtoZ:

This ticks me off.

The little punks can do what they did but when some one tries to keep them at the scene of the crime until police arrive, he is made out to be the bad guy.

Send the kids home and then call the cops?  No.  I would not do that either.  

Seems the parents of the kids are not nearly as interested in what their children did as they should be.

If he did indeed man handle the boys the boys should consider themselves lucky they are not actual men.  You break in to some one's home you run the risk.  I just can't come up with a lot of sympathy for the kids.  




Yes.  Let them back out and about and see if they are make the right decision the next time.  Deal with the natural consequences.  Oh wait, they were met with natural consequences and mommy and daddy got upset.  

lizzielouaf
by Gold Member on Jun. 18, 2013 at 12:10 PM
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How DARE that homeowner get angry! What an asshole. People should picket his home, destroy his reputation within the community. What if one of those boys is claustrophobic? That could cause permanent damage to his psyche! 


Quoting FromAtoZ:


Quoting lizzielouaf:


Well let's all hope these boys learn on their own, given enough time and patience. 

Quoting FromAtoZ:

This ticks me off.

The little punks can do what they did but when some one tries to keep them at the scene of the crime until police arrive, he is made out to be the bad guy.

Send the kids home and then call the cops?  No.  I would not do that either.  

Seems the parents of the kids are not nearly as interested in what their children did as they should be.

If he did indeed man handle the boys the boys should consider themselves lucky they are not actual men.  You break in to some one's home you run the risk.  I just can't come up with a lot of sympathy for the kids.  




Yes.  Let them back out and about and see if they are make the right decision the next time.  Deal with the natural consequences.  Oh wait, they were met with natural consequences and mommy and daddy got upset.  



MeAndTommyLee
by Gold Member on Jun. 18, 2013 at 12:15 PM
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Getting and staying caught?

This is ridiculous.   They were not in any danger whatsoever.  I want to know what moron turned this around on the man that was protecting/looking after his property.  Who pays for this damage?  And above all this is not normal child antics -- decent and average  kids don't break into houses with hammers and pound holes in walls. 


Quoting autodidact:

they were in danger of what, exactly? 


 

furbabymum
by Gold Member on Jun. 18, 2013 at 12:17 PM

 If those were my sons the "trauma" they suffered while in that closet would be nothing compared to the trauma they'd get at home. Little assholes.

MeAndTommyLee
by Gold Member on Jun. 18, 2013 at 12:18 PM
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These loser parents ought to be upset that their damn kids broke into someones property and attempted to wreck the place!  Why is the government coddling them?  I'm pissed.


Quoting FromAtoZ:


Quoting lizzielouaf:

 

Well let's all hope these boys learn on their own, given enough time and patience. 

Quoting FromAtoZ:

This ticks me off.

The little punks can do what they did but when some one tries to keep them at the scene of the crime until police arrive, he is made out to be the bad guy.

Send the kids home and then call the cops?  No.  I would not do that either.  

Seems the parents of the kids are not nearly as interested in what their children did as they should be.

If he did indeed man handle the boys the boys should consider themselves lucky they are not actual men.  You break in to some one's home you run the risk.  I just can't come up with a lot of sympathy for the kids.  

 

 

 

Yes.  Let them back out and about and see if they are make the right decision the next time.  Deal with the natural consequences.  Oh wait, they were met with natural consequences and mommy and daddy got upset.  


 

MeAndTommyLee
by Gold Member on Jun. 18, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Isn't that the truth!  Trauma my ass....these damn parents are looking for money somewhere in this.  If these were my sons they would be in severe trouble and I would take extraordinary steps to change the path they were headed down. 


Quoting furbabymum:

 If those were my sons the "trauma" they suffered while in that closet would be nothing compared to the trauma they'd get at home. Little assholes.


 

LaughCryLive
by Silver Member on Jun. 18, 2013 at 12:33 PM

 Because don't you know? It's important for chidren to make important decisions for themselves.  Parents should not set boundaries. That man owes these children an apology.


Quoting Farmlady09:

Most likely ... so the little vandals get off scott free? I'd like to know why their parents left them out to roam unattended when they were obviously never taught the basics of right and wrong.

I know if this had been any of my boys, the very least bit of trauma they would have to deal with would be getting stuffed in a closet by an irate home-owner ~ and I'll add that at 8 - 10 years of age all three of my boys actually knew HOW to patch holes in walls, paint, wall-paper, etc. They knew those things because I was teaching them to be productive rather than letting them run amok destroying other people's property after breaking and entering.

 

Quoting UpSheRises:

Ill bet the home was insured.


Quoting Farmlady09:

Um .... who is going to pay for the damages done by these teeny traumatized vandals??


 

 


 

Alayna - Wife to Sanjay and mommy to Anjali

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Jun. 18, 2013 at 12:43 PM
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Quoting MeAndTommyLee:

These loser parents ought to be upset that their damn kids broke into someones property and attempted to wreck the place!  Why is the government coddling them?  I'm pissed.


Quoting FromAtoZ:


Quoting lizzielouaf:


Well let's all hope these boys learn on their own, given enough time and patience. 

Quoting FromAtoZ:

This ticks me off.

The little punks can do what they did but when some one tries to keep them at the scene of the crime until police arrive, he is made out to be the bad guy.

Send the kids home and then call the cops?  No.  I would not do that either.  

Seems the parents of the kids are not nearly as interested in what their children did as they should be.

If he did indeed man handle the boys the boys should consider themselves lucky they are not actual men.  You break in to some one's home you run the risk.  I just can't come up with a lot of sympathy for the kids.  




Yes.  Let them back out and about and see if they are make the right decision the next time.  Deal with the natural consequences.  Oh wait, they were met with natural consequences and mommy and daddy got upset.  



I agree.  It is frustrating to see this man be the focus of this ordeal when the punk kids caused the issue to begin with.   Their parents are responsible as well.  

These kids will learn nothing from this because their parents have learned nothing and are wearing blinders.  Throw in the ridiculous charges against the man and all that is telling these kids is that they can get away with this.......and maybe more next time.


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