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Just "Who", or "What" is Dr. Tara J. Palmatier?

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Okay, ladies, this is a spin-off of Future Shock's post about women entrapping men by getting pregnant.

I wanted to know WHY this supposed "woman" shrink was so one-sided against women--- SURELY, a Wiki post somewhere existed that would explain why. I have found some images that are supposed to be her, but cannot be sure...

I propose that this "woman" is a fake.At least with Ann Coulter, you know she WAS born... This entity, well, do a little searching with Google, Bing, etc., and let me know if you find any REAL info other than blogs or articles purported to be written by her..

Here is an example of her "work". I did not slog through all of the videos, but the ones I watched were enough to tell me I didn't want to waste my time watching women hating on women... WHERE did they get these women? PAY THEM???

http://www.avoiceformen.com/womens-voice/

Women

A COLLECTION OF ARTICLES, VIDEOS, WEB SITE, AND OTHER RESOURCES BY WOMEN SPEAKING OUT AGAINST HATEFUL GENDER IDEOLOGY:

 

This page was created a few years ago and in the time since it was created the men’s movement has grown at an explosive rate, with not just men but women joining at a rate too fast to even keep up with. At this point there are far too many women involved in the men’s movement to list even a small fraction of them. However, here are a few videos and articles we think you may find salient, all by women:

VIDEOS

ARTICLES

Furthermore, if you are a woman who is interested in the Men’s Human Rights Movement, you may wish to particularly note the following articles by women on this site:

To The Women Lurking on the Fringes.

Feminism and the Disposable Male.

The Family Terrorist.

Leaving the Sisterhood: A Recovering Feminist Speaks

Manufacturing Female Victims, Marginalizing Vulnerable Men.

 

BL

by on Jun. 21, 2013 at 1:57 AM
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LiliM
by on Jul. 8, 2013 at 3:27 AM
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After comments in Futureshock's post, I found this.

Dr. Tara is real.  I have met her.  She is a strong voice for men who try and get away from crazy.  She supports anyone who deals with personality disordered, but her focus is helping men.

Plenty will scoff at that, but take a look at how the legal system treats men.  As a woman, I will never know the depth of bullshit that a man would. 

And before you further scoff, imagine if the men she helps were your sons, brothers. 

spotsmom
by Member on Jul. 8, 2013 at 4:41 AM
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Having read through some of the articles on their website, I can tell you, fairly conclusively, that "Tara" has the exact same writing style as another male blogger on the site. I can also tell you, a quick perusal of the site will leave you with little doubt that this is a misogynistic site full of anti-woman rhetoric and lots of " Menz is superior!" sophmoric high-fiving. 

LiliM
by on Jul. 8, 2013 at 4:48 AM


Quoting spotsmom:

Having read through some of the articles on their website, I can tell you, fairly conclusively, that "Tara" has the exact same writing style as another male blogger on the site. I can also tell you, a quick perusal of the site will leave you with little doubt that this is a misogynistic site full of anti-woman rhetoric and lots of " Menz is superior!" sophmoric high-fiving. 

But Tara is a real person.  Just because someone else agrees with her POV and is equally unhappy with the way men are dealt with doesn't mean anything.  It means that, OMG, there are more people than Dr. Tara who think being a man can lead to a crock of shit legally.

Anything to shoot the messenger.  And no, Menz is not superior.  They'd like to start by merely being equal.


~~JeezuzTitz!  We ain't got time for krazee!!~~

Clairwil
by Ruby Member on Jul. 8, 2013 at 5:15 AM
Quoting Della529:

 Dr Tara completed and successfully defended her doctoral dissertation, Ce ci n’est pas une these: An applied psychoanalysis of Rene Magritte, in 2004.


The dissertation mentioned is listed at the Antioch University New England website:

Quote:
Source

Tara J. Palmatier (2004)

Ceci N'Est Pas Une These is an applied psychoanalysis of the twentieth century Surrealist artist, Rene Magritte. Multiple levels of analysis are incorporated in this endeavor. Biographical information, including family background and developmental history, is examined. The interior life of the artist is explored, particularly in regard to the impact of childhood trauma on his artwork during a critical period in his adulthood. A psychoanalytic perspective is implemented to enable a deeper exploration of the vast reservoir of unconscious material represented in Magritte's paintings. Two paintings, from a period in Magritte's life during which he was in considerable emotional turmoil are examined. The theoretical concepts employed to analyze these works include early parental object loss, incomplete mourning, repetition compulsion, and creativity.

Also here: http://search.proquest.com/docview/305056217


Subject
Psychotherapy;
Art History
Classification
0622: Psychotherapy
0377: Art History
Identifier / keyword
Communication and the arts, Psychology, Magritte, Rene, Surrealist, Childhood abuse, Psychoanalysis
Title
Ceci n'est pas une these
Author
Palmatier, Tara J.
Pages
98 p.
Number of pages
98
Publication year
2004
Degree date
2004
School code
0960
Source
DAI-B 65/03, p. 1559, Sep 2004
Place of publication
Ann Arbor
Country of publication
United States
Advisor
Ellenhorn, Theodore
University/institution
Antioch University/New England Graduate School
University location
United States -- New Hampshire
Degree
Psy.D.
Source type
Dissertations & Theses
Language
English
Document type
Dissertation/Thesis
Dissertation/thesis number
3127038
ProQuest document ID
305056217
Copyright
Copyright UMI - Dissertations Publishing 2004
Document URL
http://search.proquest.com/docview/305056217
Database
ProQuest Dissertations & Theses (PQDT)
stringtheory
by Gold Member on Jul. 8, 2013 at 5:41 AM
Bump for later (off to work)
Aestas
by Gold Member on Jul. 8, 2013 at 6:40 AM
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Quoting LiliM:


Quoting spotsmom:

Having read through some of the articles on their website, I can tell you, fairly conclusively, that "Tara" has the exact same writing style as another male blogger on the site. I can also tell you, a quick perusal of the site will leave you with little doubt that this is a misogynistic site full of anti-woman rhetoric and lots of " Menz is superior!" sophmoric high-fiving. 

But Tara is a real person.  Just because someone else agrees with her POV and is equally unhappy with the way men are dealt with doesn't mean anything.  It means that, OMG, there are more people than Dr. Tara who think being a man can lead to a crock of shit legally.

Anything to shoot the messenger.  And no, Menz is not superior.  They'd like to start by merely being equal.

You have got to be kidding me. The family court system in the US, if that's what you're referring to, has a distinctly male bias, to the detriment of women. Men's Rights Activists love to say that women get custody more often than men, but that's a very misleading statement. The truth is that women get custody more often than men only when all custody cases are taken into account, including those that go through by agreement. When you look only at contested custody cases, men actually win sole or joint custody more often than women, including in cases where the man is known to have physically abused the woman and/or the children. Abusive men are in fact far more likely than non-abusive men to pursue contested custody; abusers use their children as tools to get back at the mother.

Abusive men also frequently gain custody through claiming "Parental Alienation Syndrome." PAS is a theory advanced by a man who also championed pedophilia; he said that the problem was not men who have sex with children, but the culture that tells us that men having sex with children is wrong. PAS has been thoroughly debunked, is not listed in any DSM, and is not accepted by the scientific or psychological community, yet abusive men still succeed in gaining custody of their children by claiming that the mother invented all the abuse and brainwashed her children using PAS.

The US legal system is absolutely biased, but it's against women, not men. Even the most cursory examination of actual facts and statistics makes that absolutely clear.

lilangilyn
by Member on Jul. 8, 2013 at 10:06 AM

 


Quoting Aestas:

 

Quoting LiliM:


Quoting spotsmom:

Having read through some of the articles on their website, I can tell you, fairly conclusively, that "Tara" has the exact same writing style as another male blogger on the site. I can also tell you, a quick perusal of the site will leave you with little doubt that this is a misogynistic site full of anti-woman rhetoric and lots of " Menz is superior!" sophmoric high-fiving. 

But Tara is a real person.  Just because someone else agrees with her POV and is equally unhappy with the way men are dealt with doesn't mean anything.  It means that, OMG, there are more people than Dr. Tara who think being a man can lead to a crock of shit legally.

Anything to shoot the messenger.  And no, Menz is not superior.  They'd like to start by merely being equal.

You have got to be kidding me. The family court system in the US, if that's what you're referring to, has a distinctly male bias, to the detriment of women. Men's Rights Activists love to say that women get custody more often than men, but that's a very misleading statement. The truth is that women get custody more often than men only when all custody cases are taken into account, including those that go through by agreement. When you look only at contested custody cases, men actually win sole or joint custody more often than women, including in cases where the man is known to have physically abused the woman and/or the children. Abusive men are in fact far more likely than non-abusive men to pursue contested custody; abusers use their children as tools to get back at the mother.

Abusive men also frequently gain custody through claiming "Parental Alienation Syndrome." PAS is a theory advanced by a man who also championed pedophilia; he said that the problem was not men who have sex with children, but the culture that tells us that men having sex with children is wrong. PAS has been thoroughly debunked, is not listed in any DSM, and is not accepted by the scientific or psychological community, yet abusive men still succeed in gaining custody of their children by claiming that the mother invented all the abuse and brainwashed her children using PAS.

Actually PAS has not been debunked at all and is currently being studied all over the world. Though the disinformation campaign against Gardner still exists, the research that has gone on since his death, both qualitative and quantitative, has been undeniably sound. Here in the USA, there has been a recent meta analysis by the head of psychiatry, William Bernet, at Vanderbilt University that will open your eyes to how the psychiatric and psychological field really feels about this issue.. This meta analysis is available to anyone with a library card as is all sound research on the topic and is undeniably in support of the concept and existance of PAS. The theory that abusive men use PAS to gain custody has been debunked time and time again. If anyone really wants to learn about PAS, the source should be peer reviewed articles in libraries and journals, not the fear mongering on the web.

Though PAS was not included in the recent version of DSM, it doesn't mean that it will never be included. The research continues, and as it is sound and can be empirically supported, it will be vindicated eventually. In fact, in the recent DSM V, there is  support that alienation by parents is child abuse. There is also support for the idea of PAS in the diagnosis of folie a deux between a parent and child. Another name for what is basically the same thing. Just less inflammatory because it has not been demonized. Also, there is a lot of information on child relational problems that are of the same category and importance, specifically in V code 61.29, Child Affected by Parental Relationship Distress.

So the concepts are there, the spirit of the diagnosis is there. There is huge support for PAS in the psychological community world wide and its supporters continue to do the research and the lobbying that is needed to have it gain a place in the next DSM. So when you say something has been debunked or that it was the work of a pedophile, please try actually looking at original documents rather than reading anti Gardner sites. His comments on sexuality have been completely taken out of context and were in reference to other cultures and their specific practices. Take a look at the vast research being done today by reputable universities, hospitals, and organizations. A library card is free and will open up worlds for you. I don't meant this disrespectfully, but it is important when debating that facts are presented not propaganda. 

The US legal system is absolutely biased, but it's against women, not men. Even the most cursory examination of actual facts and statistics makes that absolutely clear.


 

LiliM
by on Jul. 8, 2013 at 10:24 AM
No I am not. And while there may be some abusive men who get custody there are FAR more abusive women who get and keep it.

I'm not sure where you have dealt with family court but in the three I have, not one had a distinctly male bias. All three favored the mother.

And PAS has NOT been debunked. It's detractors would like you to think so and go on about Gardner like he's the beginning and end. Well, he's not. There are multiple professionals that have studied and furthered his research that find it credible and fact based.

A study of the facts? From whom? NOW? I was a long time member of NOW. The smear job they have done on anyone who supports PAS is impressive.

And I know people who have suffered a great deal at the hands of women who actively and openly practice PAS. It's pervasive and wide spread. Are you saying that only men use the kids to get back at a woman?

Because if you are, there's no sense in continuing a discussion with you. Women have custody in over 80% of cases that go to court. But PAS is a tool used by only men? Who don't get custody 4/5 of the time?


Quoting Aestas:


Quoting LiliM:


Quoting spotsmom:

Having read through some of the articles on their website, I can tell you, fairly conclusively, that "Tara" has the exact same writing style as another male blogger on the site. I can also tell you, a quick perusal of the site will leave you with little doubt that this is a misogynistic site full of anti-woman rhetoric and lots of " Menz is superior!" sophmoric high-fiving. 

But Tara is a real person.  Just because someone else agrees with her POV and is equally unhappy with the way men are dealt with doesn't mean anything.  It means that, OMG, there are more people than Dr. Tara who think being a man can lead to a crock of shit legally.

Anything to shoot the messenger.  And no, Menz is not superior.  They'd like to start by merely being equal.

You have got to be kidding me. The family court system in the US, if that's what you're referring to, has a distinctly male bias, to the detriment of women. Men's Rights Activists love to say that women get custody more often than men, but that's a very misleading statement. The truth is that women get custody more often than men only when all custody cases are taken into account, including those that go through by agreement. When you look only at contested custody cases, men actually win sole or joint custody more often than women, including in cases where the man is known to have physically abused the woman and/or the children. Abusive men are in fact far more likely than non-abusive men to pursue contested custody; abusers use their children as tools to get back at the mother.

Abusive men also frequently gain custody through claiming "Parental Alienation Syndrome." PAS is a theory advanced by a man who also championed pedophilia; he said that the problem was not men who have sex with children, but the culture that tells us that men having sex with children is wrong. PAS has been thoroughly debunked, is not listed in any DSM, and is not accepted by the scientific or psychological community, yet abusive men still succeed in gaining custody of their children by claiming that the mother invented all the abuse and brainwashed her children using PAS.

The US legal system is absolutely biased, but it's against women, not men. Even the most cursory examination of actual facts and statistics makes that absolutely clear.

Darkkitty
by on Jul. 9, 2013 at 12:00 AM

I know, I know!  Dr T is an ALIEN!!!!!  I'm sure if you keep cyber stalking this... this... uh... person?  Alien?  You'll eventually uncover the great big CONSPIRACY!  TRUST NO ONE!  The truth is OUT THERE!

PS: You sound like a person? Man? Alien? Troll? who is totally bored out of your gourd.  You don't sound or write like a normal woman would.  Just saying...

joyfree
by Silver Member on Jul. 9, 2013 at 12:16 AM

I have already addressed that I may have jumped the gun on this... I merely found it very strange that Dr. Tara has somehow been able to be almost untraceable online...

I had read the original article and wanted to find out more about her but I could only find blogs, and one rather miniscule article that described her dissertation for her Phd, but little other information...

Considering the subject of Future's post, I found it to be terribly one-sided at the time, and it seemed to blame the women more than men...

When I could find almost no biographical info, linked-in, facebook, etc., medical doctor ratings, it all seemed very suspicious to me...

Considering all the anti-woman legislation currently on the horizon today, I sadly would NOT be surprised... I really DO hope that I'm wrong.


Quoting Darkkitty:

I know, I know!  Dr T is an ALIEN!!!!!  I'm sure if you keep cyber stalking this... this... uh... person?  Alien?  You'll eventually uncover the great big CONSPIRACY!  TRUST NO ONE!  The truth is OUT THERE!

PS: You sound like a person? Man? Alien? Troll? who is totally bored out of your gourd.  You don't sound or write like a normal woman would.  Just saying...



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