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I am bored and since this was mentioned in another abortion post... >.

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Someone mentioned violence against clinics and the like. There have been a few instances of pro life groups protesting clinics that do not offer abortions. Not that they make news. 

Anyway, here, read these.

Anthrax threats  Wait.. they are threatening to send Anthrax to a clinic??? Holy Hel, I remember how sick my husband was after his vaccination..

Butyric Acid attacks Ouch

Arsons and Bombings I thought people were taught not to play with fire... 

Murders and Shootings Most recent one was 2009... 

Now, I know not all pro life peeps are violent. however, violent language (while not condoned) is not as bad as the violence show above.

Neither should be happening, because it makes both sides look like fools

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by on Jul. 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM
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romalove
by Roma on Jul. 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM


Quoting JTROX:

Abortion is an elective medical procedure.

Abortion is also a violent act.  That is a reality.

Quoting Momniscient:

Abortion is a medical procedure.

The reality of the situation is that people are violently hurting born people over a choice that is none of their business.

Quoting JTROX:

Nope.  Absolutely not.

Just pointing out the reality of the situation.

Quoting Momniscient:

So that must justify violence against born people?

Quoting JTROX:

Abortion is violent.




Is a medically induced abortion a violent act?

How about a miscarriage that the body itself induces?


Momniscient
by Ruby Member on Jul. 5, 2013 at 12:39 PM
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And logically as current laws should stay (and will stay despite the current trend of allowing the inmates to run the asylum in a few silly states). It is stupidity of the highest order to assign personhood to fetuses.

Quoting JTROX:

You are correct as far as current laws are concerned.

Quoting Momniscient:

That don't have the same rights, responsibilities or priveleges and are in no way equal.

Quoting JTROX:

You may believe they don't have the same rights, but they are all human life forms.

Quoting romalove:


Quoting JTROX:

It is a human being, in its early forms.

Quoting romalove:
Quoting JTROX:

Of course they are not the same as women.  Human life goes through many stages.  

Quoting romalove:


Quoting JTROX:

Nope, not at all.

Just pointing out the fact that pro-choicers support a woman's right to have a violent act committed on another human being.

Quoting Sekirei:


Quoting JTROX:

Abortion is violent.

soooo, that makes shooting people, tossing acid at them, bombing and setting fire to clinics ok?



Potential human being.

Most, the vast majority, of abortions are performed in the first trimester, most before 10 weeks gestation.

Not the same as living breathing women.  


Potential human being is not the same as a living breathing human being.  If I have to worry about sacrificing one or the other, I'm going to save the living breathing human being.


I stand by my statements.  They are not equivalent.






JTROX
by Gold Member on Jul. 5, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Violence: behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage,  or intended to kill someone or something

Yes, any abortion would be violent.

A natural miscarriage is not the same thing as an elective abortion.  Although, I suppose it could be considered violent.  We consider other natural forces as violent, such as storms.


Quoting romalove:


Quoting JTROX:

Abortion is an elective medical procedure.

Abortion is also a violent act.  That is a reality.

Quoting Momniscient:

Abortion is a medical procedure.

The reality of the situation is that people are violently hurting born people over a choice that is none of their business.

Quoting JTROX:

Nope.  Absolutely not.

Just pointing out the reality of the situation.

Quoting Momniscient:

So that must justify violence against born people?

Quoting JTROX:

Abortion is violent.




Is a medically induced abortion a violent act?

How about a miscarriage that the body itself induces?



JTROX
by Gold Member on Jul. 5, 2013 at 12:46 PM

It is not, but carry on with your notions.

Quoting Momniscient:

And logically as current laws should stay (and will stay despite the current trend of allowing the inmates to run the asylum in a few silly states). It is stupidity of the highest order to assign personhood to fetuses. 


AJanks
by Member on Jul. 5, 2013 at 12:53 PM

I have a question for the pro-lifers. What is your position on capital punishment? There was an interesting juxtaposition in Texas of the debate on the bill to eliminate women's health clinics at the same time the 500th person was executed. I saw little debate and no outrage from the pro-life community over the execution of Kimberly McCarthy. Did I miss it?

JTROX
by Gold Member on Jul. 5, 2013 at 12:54 PM

I do not support capital punishment.

Quoting AJanks:

I have a question for the pro-lifers. What is your position on capital punishment? There was an interesting juxtaposition in Texas of the debate on the bill to eliminate women's health clinics at the same time the 500th person was executed. I saw little debate and no outrage from the pro-life community over the execution of Kimberly McCarthy. Did I miss it?


futureshock
by Ruby Member on Jul. 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM


Quoting JTROX:

Abortion is violent.

Then miscarriages must be violent.

JTROX
by Gold Member on Jul. 5, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Natural forces are referred to as violent, such as "violent storms".

Quoting futureshock:


Quoting JTROX:

Abortion is violent.

Then miscarriages must be violent.


Momniscient
by Ruby Member on Jul. 5, 2013 at 1:11 PM
Quoting JTROX:

It is not, but carry on with your notions.

Quoting Momniscient:

And logically as current laws should stay (and will stay despite the current trend of allowing the inmates to run the asylum in a few silly states). It is stupidity of the highest order to assign personhood to fetuses. 


Yes. I will continue to assume based on logic, facts and moral decency. Thanks!


Momniscient
by Ruby Member on Jul. 5, 2013 at 1:12 PM

And obviously equatable to pouring acid on someone and killing abortion doctors!

I'm sure people who have had miscarriages would be so interested to hear this.

Quoting JTROX:

Natural forces are referred to as violent, such as "violent storms".

Quoting futureshock:


Quoting JTROX:

Abortion is violent.

Then miscarriages must be violent.




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