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Spin OFF If Zimmerman was dead what would your verdict be.

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Question: Verdict

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Guilty and voted Zimmerman guilty on other poll

Not guilty and voted Zimmerman guilty on other poll

Guilty and voted Zimmerman not guilty on other poll

Not Guilty and voted Zimmerman not guilty


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Total Votes: 57

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So you have seen the trail. If all the info was the same except for Trayvon DID get Zimmerman's gun and shoot him. Claimed Zimmerman attacked him and they were fighting for the gun. What would vote in self defense verdict for Trayvon?

Please explain what evidence would lead you to your conclusion. 





 Jaliyah  My video here

by on Jul. 11, 2013 at 5:28 PM
Replies (11-20):
SherryBerry106
by on Jul. 11, 2013 at 5:51 PM

 

You need serious help.

Quoting hismommy2010:

 I wouldn't charge Trayvon with a damn thing! He was being followed, and Im sure he felt a strong need to protect himself. So, IMO Trayvon would have been 'standing his ground'....

FU%K George!


 

SherryBerry106
by on Jul. 11, 2013 at 5:52 PM

 

It was simply a show trial to keep the race hustlers out of little Sanford.

Quoting DusterMommy:

Then why the hell is there even a trial? You can't prove what someone is thinking.


Quoting MamaJess9:

Actually, under Florida law you can. That's what's fucked up about it, and why Zimmerman will walk. Because even if they could prove HE threw the first punch and attacked Trayvon, if the jury believes he thought T was going to kill him, he can get off on self defense.



Quoting DusterMommy:

Well, first of all if it were reversed, we most likely wouldn't even know about it.





I voted guilty, even though I think GZ is not guilty. If EVERYTHING ELSE were the same, then the general belief would still be that TM threw the first punch. You can't start a fight and then kill in self defense.


 

ReginaStar
by Gold Member on Jul. 11, 2013 at 5:53 PM


Quoting DusterMommy:

Well, first of all if it were reversed, we most likely wouldn't even know about it.

I voted guilty, even though I think GZ is not guilty. If EVERYTHING ELSE were the same, then the general belief would still be that TM threw the first punch. You can't start a fight and then kill in self defense.

Why would the general belief be that TM was the attacker? Where is the prof of this?





 Jaliyah  My video here

DusterMommy
by Bronze Member on Jul. 11, 2013 at 5:54 PM
2 moms liked this
Watched any of the trial?


Quoting ReginaStar:


Quoting DusterMommy:

Well, first of all if it were reversed, we most likely wouldn't even know about it.



I voted guilty, even though I think GZ is not guilty. If EVERYTHING ELSE were the same, then the general belief would still be that TM threw the first punch. You can't start a fight and then kill in self defense.

Why would the general belief be that TM was the attacker? Where is the prof of this?


ReginaStar
by Gold Member on Jul. 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM
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Quoting stringtheory:

What about not guilty and said GZ was not guilty on another poll?

I thought I put that but had forgot the Not in front the guilty. Fixed. 





 Jaliyah  My video here

ReginaStar
by Gold Member on Jul. 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Could you point to where the law says that?

Quoting MamaJess9:

Actually, under Florida law you can. That's what's fucked up about it, and why Zimmerman will walk. Because even if they could prove HE threw the first punch and attacked Trayvon, if the jury believes he thought T was going to kill him, he can get off on self defense.

Quoting DusterMommy:

Well, first of all if it were reversed, we most likely wouldn't even know about it.



I voted guilty, even though I think GZ is not guilty. If EVERYTHING ELSE were the same, then the general belief would still be that TM threw the first punch. You can't start a fight and then kill in self defense.






 Jaliyah  My video here

ReginaStar
by Gold Member on Jul. 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Yes but not every single bit. If I missed this please tell me where I can find this b/c I have not seen prof that he attacked him. 

Quoting DusterMommy:

Watched any of the trial?


Quoting ReginaStar:


Quoting DusterMommy:

Well, first of all if it were reversed, we most likely wouldn't even know about it.



I voted guilty, even though I think GZ is not guilty. If EVERYTHING ELSE were the same, then the general belief would still be that TM threw the first punch. You can't start a fight and then kill in self defense.

Why would the general belief be that TM was the attacker? Where is the prof of this?







 Jaliyah  My video here

DusterMommy
by Bronze Member on Jul. 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM
I didn't say proof, I said general belief. I've yet to hear anyone seriously argue that GZ attacked/tackled/punched TM first... which lends to my thoughts that everyone is on board with the idea that TM was the initial aggressor.


Quoting ReginaStar:

Yes but not every single bit. If I missed this please tell me where I can find this b/c I have not seen prof that he attacked him. 

Quoting DusterMommy:

Watched any of the trial?





Quoting ReginaStar:


Quoting DusterMommy:

Well, first of all if it were reversed, we most likely wouldn't even know about it.





I voted guilty, even though I think GZ is not guilty. If EVERYTHING ELSE were the same, then the general belief would still be that TM threw the first punch. You can't start a fight and then kill in self defense.

Why would the general belief be that TM was the attacker? Where is the prof of this?





Sisteract
by Whoopie on Jul. 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM

 Yep-

A free for all in FL.

Quoting DusterMommy:

Then why the hell is there even a trial? You can't prove what someone is thinking.


Quoting MamaJess9:

Actually, under Florida law you can. That's what's fucked up about it, and why Zimmerman will walk. Because even if they could prove HE threw the first punch and attacked Trayvon, if the jury believes he thought T was going to kill him, he can get off on self defense.



Quoting DusterMommy:

Well, first of all if it were reversed, we most likely wouldn't even know about it.





I voted guilty, even though I think GZ is not guilty. If EVERYTHING ELSE were the same, then the general belief would still be that TM threw the first punch. You can't start a fight and then kill in self defense.

 

ReginaStar
by Gold Member on Jul. 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM
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From my understanding the general belief you speak of is whether or not TM was banging his head into the ground. That doesn't mean he initiated the fight. The evidence does provide prof that Zimmerman had motive. He called the cops on an innocent by standard, he followed him. TM ran FROM him. Zimmerman had reason to assault TM. He was accusing him of wrong doing and wanted the police to get him before he was able to run away. 

Quoting DusterMommy:

I didn't say proof, I said general belief. I've yet to hear anyone seriously argue that GZ attacked/tackled/punched TM first... which lends to my thoughts that everyone is on board with the idea that TM was the initial aggressor.


Quoting ReginaStar:

Yes but not every single bit. If I missed this please tell me where I can find this b/c I have not seen prof that he attacked him. 

Quoting DusterMommy:

Watched any of the trial?





Quoting ReginaStar:


Quoting DusterMommy:

Well, first of all if it were reversed, we most likely wouldn't even know about it.





I voted guilty, even though I think GZ is not guilty. If EVERYTHING ELSE were the same, then the general belief would still be that TM threw the first punch. You can't start a fight and then kill in self defense.

Why would the general belief be that TM was the attacker? Where is the prof of this?










 Jaliyah  My video here

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