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Blacks benefit from Florida ‘Stand Your Ground’ law at disproportionate rate

Posted by on Jul. 17, 2013 at 8:03 AM
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African Americans benefit from Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” self-defense law at a rate far out of proportion to their presence in the state’s population, despite an assertion by Attorney General Eric Holder that repealing “Stand Your Ground” would help African Americans.

Black Floridians have made about a third of the state’s total “Stand Your Ground” claims in homicide cases, a rate nearly double the black percentage of Florida’s population. The majority of those claims have been successful, a success rate that exceeds that for Florida whites.

Nonetheless, prominent African Americans including Holder and “Ebony and Ivory” singer Stevie Wonder, who has vowed not to perform in the Sunshine State until the law is revoked, have made “Stand Your Ground” a central part of the Trayvon Martin controversy.

Holder, who was pressured by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) and other progressive groups to open a civil rights case against acquitted neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman in the 2012 shooting death of 17-year-old Martin, criticized Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” self-defense law in a speech Tuesday before the NAACP.

The law was not invoked by Zimmerman’s defense team but was included in instructions to the jury.

“We must confront the underlying attitudes, the mistaken beliefs and the unfortunate stereotypes that serve too often as the basis for police action and private judgments. Separate and apart from the case that has drawn the nation’s attention, it’s time to question laws that senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhood,” Holder said to applause in his speech before the NAACP Tuesday.

“These laws try to fix something that was never broken. There has always been a legal defense for using deadly force if — and the ‘if’ is important — if no safe retreat is available. But we must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common-sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat, outside their home, if they can do so safely. By allowing and perhaps encouraging violent situations to escalate in public, such laws undermine public safety,” Holder said.

“The list of resulting tragedies is long and, unfortunately, has victimized too many who are innocent. It is our collective obligation; we must stand OUR ground to ensure — (cheers, applause, music) — we must stand our ground to ensure that our laws reduce violence, and take a hard look at laws that contribute to more violence than they prevent,” Holder said.

But approximately one third of Florida “Stand Your Ground” claims in fatal cases have been made by black defendants, and they have used the defense successfully 55 percent of the time, at the same rate as the population at large and at a higher rate than white defendants, according to a Daily Caller analysis of a database maintained by the Tampa Bay Times.  Additionally, the majority of victims in Florida “Stand Your Ground” cases have been white.

African Americans used “Stand Your Ground” defenses at nearly twice the rate of their presence in the Florida population, which was listed at 16.6 percent in 2012.

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Mommabearbergh
by on Jul. 17, 2013 at 8:09 AM
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Honestly I thought the castle doctrine was good enough when it comes to self defense. The Syg law as of now in florida seems sort of vague and open to interpretation when it should be more solid and clear cut.
Middlemom32
by Member on Jul. 17, 2013 at 8:24 AM
It's nice to see the A.G doing what he should be doing, protecting all Americans. I'm flabbergasted why anyone would have a problem with this.
candlegal
by Judy on Jul. 17, 2013 at 8:27 AM
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That is actually pretty funny.

Quoting Middlemom32:

It's nice to see the A.G doing what he should be doing, protecting all Americans. I'm flabbergasted why anyone would have a problem with this.


quickbooksworm
by Silver Member on Jul. 17, 2013 at 8:30 AM
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He really needs to state out of it. It is a state issue. And based on what he said, he doesn't know anything about the case or Florida laws.
MichelleJ1000
by Member on Jul. 17, 2013 at 8:33 AM
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Tell that to the lady who fired warning shots in the air to warn her husband whom she had a protection order on and she received a 20 year sentence.
lga1965
by on Jul. 17, 2013 at 8:33 AM
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LOL. Sure thing.
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It was made to benefit angry white men. And don't pretend it's not. Everything benefits angry white men.
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Middlemom32
by Member on Jul. 17, 2013 at 8:47 AM
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What's funny about it? Sincerely curious. Also out of curiosity, have you noticed that the same people who keep whining that it's not a race issue keep making it a racial issue? If as the article says,more blacks benefit from this law than whites, wouldn't those people be ecstatic to repeal a law that only benefits "thugs" like you think Trayvon Martin was? It's interesting that some people are determined to defend this law so desperately.

What do you think?


Quoting candlegal:

That is actually pretty funny.

Quoting Middlemom32:

It's nice to see the A.G doing what he should be doing, protecting all Americans. I'm flabbergasted why anyone would have a problem with this.



candlegal
by Judy on Jul. 17, 2013 at 8:50 AM
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What is funny about it has nothing to do with this law.   It is the fact that you think Eric Holder is try to protect all americans.   He hasn't done that since he has been in office.  It is all political to him.  He doesn't care about any of us.

Quoting Middlemom32:

What's funny about it? Sincerely curious. Also out of curiosity, have you noticed that the same people who keep whining that it's not a race issue keep making it a racial issue? If as the article says,more blacks benefit from this law than whites, wouldn't those people be ecstatic to repeal a law that only benefits "thugs" like you think Trayvon Martin was? It's interesting that some people are determined to defend this law so desperately.

What do you think?


Quoting candlegal:

That is actually pretty funny.

Quoting Middlemom32:

It's nice to see the A.G doing what he should be doing, protecting all Americans. I'm flabbergasted why anyone would have a problem with this.




LauraKW
by "Dude!" on Jul. 17, 2013 at 8:56 AM
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She won't answer with facts or logical responses. She'll be off on a tirade about Obama in a few more replies.

Quoting Middlemom32:

What's funny about it? Sincerely curious. Also out of curiosity, have you noticed that the same people who keep whining that it's not a race issue keep making it a racial issue? If as the article says,more blacks benefit from this law than whites, wouldn't those people be ecstatic to repeal a law that only benefits "thugs" like you think Trayvon Martin was? It's interesting that some people are determined to defend this law so desperately.



What do you think?




Quoting candlegal:

That is actually pretty funny.

Quoting Middlemom32:

It's nice to see the A.G doing what he should be doing, protecting all Americans. I'm flabbergasted why anyone would have a problem with this.



momtoscott
by Platinum Member on Jul. 17, 2013 at 8:58 AM
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It's a bad law no matter who "benefits" from it and needs to be repealed.  

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