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America's "Embarrassing Past" and some facts that are intentionally omitted from school books. Did you know?

The first record of slaves in North America were of white slaves. Of the 102 passengers on The Mayflower, 12 were white slaves. That's right, before the European Slave Trade from Africa to America. In the early 1600's, white Europeans were captured and shipped over as slaves. This included enemies of the crown, criminals, orphans. In fact, “Street Urchins” or the street kids of London were rounded up and shipped to the colonies as slaves. The people of London were warned to beware of “Kid Nabbing”. This is the history of where the term “Kidnap” comes from.

Let's not forget that blacks were selling each other into slavery LONG before the European slave trade began (i.e. white people) AND they are still enslaving each other TODAY in Africa. Sex Slaves, Blood Diamonds, etc...

Records of early African (black) slavery in Africa and in Islamic states dates back as early as 47 BC.

The first owner of black slaves in the US was a black man, Anthony Johnson. He is responsible for introducing the white man to black slave ownership and was the person who brought the case to the courts to make it legal to “Own” black slaves indefinitely.

The majority of black slaves in the US were owned by other black families. Large numbers of free Blacks owned black slaves in numbers disproportionate to their representation in society.  According to the federal census of 1830, free blacks owned more than 10,000 slaves in Louisiana, Maryland, South Carolina, and Virginia.  The majority of black slave-owners lived in Louisiana and planted sugar cane.

By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.

The Largest population of slaves when slavery was abolished in the US was owned by a Black Slave Owner and slave breeder, William Ellison

Today, less than 2% of blacks in the US are descendants of black US slaves. It is more likely that a black person in the US is here because their family/ancestors came here to escape oppression by other blacks.

Edit: Adding some reference material...

Here are three great books I have read on the subject. You can preview a lot of information at these links and follow the "Look Inside" link.

http://www.amazon.com/White-Slavery-Colonial-America-Documented/dp/144213397X/ref=pd_sxp_f_i

http://www.amazon.com/White-Cargo-Forgotten-History-Britains/dp/0814742963/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y

http://www.amazon.com/They-Were-White-Slaves-Enslavement/dp/0929903056/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_z


This site has some good info backed with cited reference material.

http://slaverebellion.org/

And again, I included names and dates for personal research.

by on Jul. 25, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Replies (11-20):
Mommabearbergh
by Gold Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 1:55 PM
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Free blacks own relatives so that no one could try to resell them into slavery if they were still " property"

Also getting " facts" from places like topconservative doesn't seem so credible but to each their own. Is it me or do you have a issue with black people?
sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 1:56 PM

 Let me know when you fine one....because there hasn't been one...ever

Quoting candlegal:

so you prefer blame everything on white people posts

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 O this is a blame black folks for slavery post


got it

 

ExecutiveChick
by Bronze Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Not even close but nice try. Do some research, read a book or two, use the names and dates I provided. But quit pretending that by presenting FACTS, that makes someone a racist.


Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 hmm, is this white supremist site your source?

  1. www.saveyourheritage.com/white_​slavery.htm   Cached
    Nine-tenths of the White slavery in America was conducted without ... plantations of North America." ... derision were first applied to White slaves), ...



FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Jul. 25, 2013 at 1:59 PM


Quoting Mommabearbergh:

Free blacks own relatives so that no one could try to resell them into slavery if they were still " property"

Also getting " facts" from places like topconservative doesn't seem so credible but to each their own. Is it me or do you have a issue with black people?

Glad I read through the thread.

Agree with you.

There is usually the middle ground where the 'truth' can be found.  Some, however, prefer to travel to the other end to prove their point.

Now, this isn't to say there is not some truth in what she has posted, but her 'truth' is slanted to fit her perspective.  Sadly.

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:01 PM

 You presented no source for a reason, which is probably because you pulled this racist garbage from a white supremist website and want to pretend it isn't.

There is no reason to not link your source...

Quoting ExecutiveChick:

Not even close but nice try. Do some research, read a book or two, use the names and dates I provided. But quit pretending that by presenting FACTS, that makes someone a racist.

 

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 hmm, is this white supremist site your source?

  1. www.saveyourheritage.com/white_​slavery.htm   Cached
    Nine-tenths of the White slavery in America was conducted without ... plantations of North America." ... derision were first applied to White slaves), ...

 

 

 

ExecutiveChick
by Bronze Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:02 PM
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Pay attention and try to keep up. Read the thread...

Here are three great books I have read on the subject. You can preview a lot of information at these links and follow the "Look Inside" link.

http://www.amazon.com/White-Slavery-Colonial-America-Documented/dp/144213397X/ref=pd_sxp_f_i

http://www.amazon.com/White-Cargo-Forgotten-History-Britains/dp/0814742963/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y

http://www.amazon.com/They-Were-White-Slaves-Enslavement/dp/0929903056/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_z


This site has some good info backed with cited reference material.

http://slaverebellion.org/

And again, I included names and dates for personal research.


Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 You presented no source for a reason, which is probably because you pulled this racist garbage from a white supremist website and want to pretend it isn't.

There is no reason to not link your source...

Quoting ExecutiveChick:

Not even close but nice try. Do some research, read a book or two, use the names and dates I provided. But quit pretending that by presenting FACTS, that makes someone a racist.


Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 hmm, is this white supremist site your source?

  1. www.saveyourheritage.com/white_​slavery.htm   Cached
    Nine-tenths of the White slavery in America was conducted without ... plantations of North America." ... derision were first applied to White slaves), ...



 



ExecutiveChick
by Bronze Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Here are three great books I have read on the subject. You can preview a lot of information at these links and follow the "Look Inside" link.

http://www.amazon.com/White-Slavery-Colonial-America-Documented/dp/144213397X/ref=pd_sxp_f_i

http://www.amazon.com/White-Cargo-Forgotten-History-Britains/dp/0814742963/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y

http://www.amazon.com/They-Were-White-Slaves-Enslavement/dp/0929903056/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_z


This site has some good info backed with cited reference material.

http://slaverebellion.org/

And again, I included names and dates for personal research.


Quoting FromAtoZ:


Quoting Mommabearbergh:

Free blacks own relatives so that no one could try to resell them into slavery if they were still " property"

Also getting " facts" from places like topconservative doesn't seem so credible but to each their own. Is it me or do you have a issue with black people?

Glad I read through the thread.

Agree with you.

There is usually the middle ground where the 'truth' can be found.  Some, however, prefer to travel to the other end to prove their point.

Now, this isn't to say there is not some truth in what she has posted, but her 'truth' is slanted to fit her perspective.  Sadly.



Mommabearbergh
by Gold Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:04 PM
3 moms liked this
There were blacks who owned slaves i will not deny that as someone who loves history especially american history but all her posts seem to be lets talk about black people in a negative light like all black people are the same or that its a large amount of black people doing bad things when its not like that.

Quoting FromAtoZ:


Quoting Mommabearbergh:

Free blacks own relatives so that no one could try to resell them into slavery if they were still " property"



Also getting " facts" from places like topconservative doesn't seem so credible but to each their own. Is it me or do you have a issue with black people?

Glad I read through the thread.

Agree with you.

There is usually the middle ground where the 'truth' can be found.  Some, however, prefer to travel to the other end to prove their point.

Now, this isn't to say there is not some truth in what she has posted, but her 'truth' is slanted to fit her perspective.  Sadly.

MsDenuninani
by Silver Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM
9 moms liked this

It's true that there were white slaves, and it's true that there was (probably still is) black slavery in Africa.

But it's also true that the system of American slavery of African people was unique in its cruelty and immorality. In other words, white people treated black slaves far worse than they had ever treated white ones, and white people treated black slaves far worse than black africans treated black african slaves.

Further, the American enslavement of blacks was entirely race-based.  That is actually a pretty unique thing when you look at slavery historically and globally.  America is unique in having made skin color the operative characteristic in which to enslave someone, not to mention having created an entire legal and moral framework designed to keep them enslaved - pretty much entirely based on their race.

And for the record, I'm not "upset with whites" (quoting skylight555 above).  I do not now, nor have I ever, held white people today responsible for white people then. 

My general hostility towards certain white attitudes is entirely rooted in the casual racism of today, not the legally codified racism of the pre-civil rights era.

(edited later for typos)

JazzyMommyx3
by Bronze Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM
I already some of this, I have ancestors who were white slaves. doesnt make slavery any better.
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