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America's "Embarrassing Past" and some facts that are intentionally omitted from school books. Did you know?

The first record of slaves in North America were of white slaves. Of the 102 passengers on The Mayflower, 12 were white slaves. That's right, before the European Slave Trade from Africa to America. In the early 1600's, white Europeans were captured and shipped over as slaves. This included enemies of the crown, criminals, orphans. In fact, “Street Urchins” or the street kids of London were rounded up and shipped to the colonies as slaves. The people of London were warned to beware of “Kid Nabbing”. This is the history of where the term “Kidnap” comes from.

Let's not forget that blacks were selling each other into slavery LONG before the European slave trade began (i.e. white people) AND they are still enslaving each other TODAY in Africa. Sex Slaves, Blood Diamonds, etc...

Records of early African (black) slavery in Africa and in Islamic states dates back as early as 47 BC.

The first owner of black slaves in the US was a black man, Anthony Johnson. He is responsible for introducing the white man to black slave ownership and was the person who brought the case to the courts to make it legal to “Own” black slaves indefinitely.

The majority of black slaves in the US were owned by other black families. Large numbers of free Blacks owned black slaves in numbers disproportionate to their representation in society.  According to the federal census of 1830, free blacks owned more than 10,000 slaves in Louisiana, Maryland, South Carolina, and Virginia.  The majority of black slave-owners lived in Louisiana and planted sugar cane.

By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.

The Largest population of slaves when slavery was abolished in the US was owned by a Black Slave Owner and slave breeder, William Ellison

Today, less than 2% of blacks in the US are descendants of black US slaves. It is more likely that a black person in the US is here because their family/ancestors came here to escape oppression by other blacks.

Edit: Adding some reference material...

Here are three great books I have read on the subject. You can preview a lot of information at these links and follow the "Look Inside" link.

http://www.amazon.com/White-Slavery-Colonial-America-Documented/dp/144213397X/ref=pd_sxp_f_i

http://www.amazon.com/White-Cargo-Forgotten-History-Britains/dp/0814742963/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y

http://www.amazon.com/They-Were-White-Slaves-Enslavement/dp/0929903056/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_z


This site has some good info backed with cited reference material.

http://slaverebellion.org/

And again, I included names and dates for personal research.

by on Jul. 25, 2013 at 1:29 PM
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AdrianneHill
by Platinum Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:07 PM
don't forget the last country to make slavery illegal was Yemen in 1967 and that was because they had to in order to join the UN.
the word slave comes from the word for Slav because so many slaves were taken by the Romans. that is another reason why jokes in Rome had to wear blond wigs because almost all of the sex slaves were northern European blondes so free women or sex slaves with dark hair had to wear wigs in public to announce their status as prostitutes.
no one has cornered the market on human misery
ExecutiveChick
by Bronze Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:08 PM

I'm not attacking you here but you are completely wrong. White slaves were treated much worse than black slaves. Please do a little research of your own and see for yourself...

Here are three great books I have read on the subject. You can preview a lot of information at these links and follow the "Look Inside" link.

http://www.amazon.com/White-Slavery-Colonial-America-Documented/dp/144213397X/ref=pd_sxp_f_i

http://www.amazon.com/White-Cargo-Forgotten-History-Britains/dp/0814742963/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y

http://www.amazon.com/They-Were-White-Slaves-Enslavement/dp/0929903056/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_z


This site has some good info backed with cited reference material.

http://slaverebellion.org/

And again, I included names and dates for personal research.


Quoting MsDenuninani:

It's true that there were white slaves, and it's true that there was (probably still is) black slavery in Africa.

But it's also true that the system of American slavery of African people was unique in it's cruelty and immorality. In other words, white people treated black slaves far worse than they had ever treated white ones, and white people treated black slaves far worse than black africans treated black african slaves.

Further, the American enslavement of blacks was entirely race-based.  That is actually a pretty unique thing when you look at slavery historically globally.  America is unique in having made skin color the operative characteristic in which to enslave someone, not to mention having created an entire legal and moral framework designed to keep them enslaved - pretty much entirely based on their race.

And for the record, I'm not "upset with whites" (quoting skylight555 above).  I do not know, nor have I ever, held white people today responsible for white people then. 

My general hostility towards certain white attitudes is entirely routed in the casual racism of today (often falsely justified by white people citing crime statistics), not the legally codified racism of the pre-civil rights era.



sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM

 she is 100% correct

Quoting ExecutiveChick:she is 100% correct

I'm not attacking you here but you are completely wrong. White slaves were treated much worse than black slaves. Please do a little research of your own and see for yourself...

Here are three great books I have read on the subject. You can preview a lot of information at these links and follow the "Look Inside" link.

http://www.amazon.com/White-Slavery-Colonial-America-Documented/dp/144213397X/ref=pd_sxp_f_i

http://www.amazon.com/White-Cargo-Forgotten-History-Britains/dp/0814742963/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y

http://www.amazon.com/They-Were-White-Slaves-Enslavement/dp/0929903056/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_z


This site has some good info backed with cited reference material.

http://slaverebellion.org/

And again, I included names and dates for personal research.

 

Quoting MsDenuninani:

It's true that there were white slaves, and it's true that there was (probably still is) black slavery in Africa.

But it's also true that the system of American slavery of African people was unique in it's cruelty and immorality. In other words, white people treated black slaves far worse than they had ever treated white ones, and white people treated black slaves far worse than black africans treated black african slaves.

Further, the American enslavement of blacks was entirely race-based.  That is actually a pretty unique thing when you look at slavery historically globally.  America is unique in having made skin color the operative characteristic in which to enslave someone, not to mention having created an entire legal and moral framework designed to keep them enslaved - pretty much entirely based on their race.

And for the record, I'm not "upset with whites" (quoting skylight555 above).  I do not know, nor have I ever, held white people today responsible for white people then. 

My general hostility towards certain white attitudes is entirely routed in the casual racism of today (often falsely justified by white people citing crime statistics), not the legally codified racism of the pre-civil rights era.

 

 

 

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:13 PM

 Interesting factoid about some white slaves

In Bermuda there was many Irish slaves along with African slaves. After awhile, they tried seperating them..than they banned them, because they (the Irish) were constantly trying to escape and cause trouble!

Also, in certain countries Irish women were put with African slaves to have babies...they were sold at a high cost in some areas.

momtoscott
by Platinum Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Yes, I know this stuff.   What would be your point? 

1stpreggers
by on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:19 PM
I don't understand why ppl keep making post about slavery. It was an awful time in American history Regardless of who did or didn't start it.
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JazzyMommyx3
by Bronze Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:38 PM
Actually no. White slaves were considered less valuable because they were less expensive and easier to get, so they were given the more dangerous and deadly jobs then the black slaves. That is true.

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

 she is 100% correct


Quoting ExecutiveChick:she is 100% correct


I'm not attacking you here but you are completely wrong. White slaves were treated much worse than black slaves. Please do a little research of your own and see for yourself...


Here are three great books I have read on the subject. You can preview a lot of information at these links and follow the "Look Inside" link.


http://www.amazon.com/White-Slavery-Colonial-America-Documented/dp/144213397X/ref=pd_sxp_f_i


http://www.amazon.com/White-Cargo-Forgotten-History-Britains/dp/0814742963/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y


http://www.amazon.com/They-Were-White-Slaves-Enslavement/dp/0929903056/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_z




This site has some good info backed with cited reference material.


http://slaverebellion.org/


And again, I included names and dates for personal research.


 


Quoting MsDenuninani:


It's true that there were white slaves, and it's true that there was (probably still is) black slavery in Africa.


But it's also true that the system of American slavery of African people was unique in it's cruelty and immorality. In other words, white people treated black slaves far worse than they had ever treated white ones, and white people treated black slaves far worse than black africans treated black african slaves.


Further, the American enslavement of blacks was entirely race-based.  That is actually a pretty unique thing when you look at slavery historically globally.  America is unique in having made skin color the operative characteristic in which to enslave someone, not to mention having created an entire legal and moral framework designed to keep them enslaved - pretty much entirely based on their race.


And for the record, I'm not "upset with whites" (quoting skylight555 above).  I do not know, nor have I ever, held white people today responsible for white people then. 


My general hostility towards certain white attitudes is entirely routed in the casual racism of today (often falsely justified by white people citing crime statistics), not the legally codified racism of the pre-civil rights era.


 


 


 

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viv212
by Gold Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:38 PM
How does that take away from America on the whole treating blacks as stupid property?
viv212
by Gold Member on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:43 PM
Can you explain more about how white slaves were treated worse than black? And are we talking about white immigrants or people who had rights?

Quoting ExecutiveChick:

I'm not attacking you here but you are completely wrong. White slaves were treated much worse than black slaves. Please do a little research of your own and see for yourself...

Here are three great books I have read on the subject. You can preview a lot of information at these links and follow the "Look Inside" link.

http://www.amazon.com/White-Slavery-Colonial-America-Documented/dp/144213397X/ref=pd_sxp_f_i

http://www.amazon.com/White-Cargo-Forgotten-History-Britains/dp/0814742963/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y

http://www.amazon.com/They-Were-White-Slaves-Enslavement/dp/0929903056/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_z


This site has some good info backed with cited reference material.

http://slaverebellion.org/

And again, I included names and dates for personal research.



Quoting MsDenuninani:

It's true that there were white slaves, and it's true that there was (probably still is) black slavery in Africa.


But it's also true that the system of American slavery of African people was unique in it's cruelty and immorality. In other words, white people treated black slaves far worse than they had ever treated white ones, and white people treated black slaves far worse than black africans treated black african slaves.


Further, the American enslavement of blacks was entirely race-based.  That is actually a pretty unique thing when you look at slavery historically globally.  America is unique in having made skin color the operative characteristic in which to enslave someone, not to mention having created an entire legal and moral framework designed to keep them enslaved - pretty much entirely based on their race.


And for the record, I'm not "upset with whites" (quoting skylight555 above).  I do not know, nor have I ever, held white people today responsible for white people then. 


My general hostility towards certain white attitudes is entirely routed in the casual racism of today (often falsely justified by white people citing crime statistics), not the legally codified racism of the pre-civil rights era.




Friday
by HRH of MJ on Jul. 25, 2013 at 2:44 PM


Quoting Mommabearbergh:

There were blacks who owned slaves i will not deny that as someone who loves history especially american history but all her posts seem to be lets talk about black people in a negative light like all black people are the same or that its a large amount of black people doing bad things when its not like that.

Quoting FromAtoZ:


Quoting Mommabearbergh:

Free blacks own relatives so that no one could try to resell them into slavery if they were still " property"



Also getting " facts" from places like topconservative doesn't seem so credible but to each their own. Is it me or do you have a issue with black people?

Glad I read through the thread.

Agree with you.

There is usually the middle ground where the 'truth' can be found.  Some, however, prefer to travel to the other end to prove their point.

Now, this isn't to say there is not some truth in what she has posted, but her 'truth' is slanted to fit her perspective.  Sadly.

No, some of her posts make sweeping generalizations to put all Liberals in a bad light.

 


Thank God......it's Friday!!!

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