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The Future Belongs to Religious Liberals?

Posted by on Aug. 2, 2013 at 8:32 AM
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If the religious left believes in one thing it’s that religious conservatives are doomed.

America is becoming more religiously liberal with each generation, and religious conservatives, though more numerous now, will become dinosaurs. That’s the confident projection of a new poll from the liberal leaning Public Religion Research Institute. It’s predictably gotten good media play, as claims about irrelevance for religious conservatives often do. And it supplements other polls supposedly proving the rise of the religiously unaffiliated in America.

The Left, in its alternative cosmology, believes in its own nonreligious providential destiny. But history moves in more crooked, unpredictable paths. And religious traditionalists, most of them conservative, believe that history has a another ultimately inexorable direction, guided by The Lord of history. The Left’s own more secular faith is often buttressed by short term trends.

“Our new research shows a complex religious landscape, with religious conservatives holding an advantage over religious progressives in terms of size and homogeneity,” PPRI admitted when releasing its poll. “However, the percentage of religious conservatives shrinks in each successive generation, with religious progressives outnumbering religious conservatives in the Millennial generation.”

Nearly half of the older than age 66 crowd is religiously conservative, while less than 20 percent of the under 33 crowd is. Only 12 percent of oldsters are religiously liberal while almost a quarter of the young are. So — presto — the future belongs to the Religious Left. As the much vaunted Millennial Generation ages into leadership, the Religious Right’s doom supposedly will be sealed.

This determinism of course assumes that these Millennials will not change their views as they age. And it assumes subsequent generations will not react against previous generations, even though most generations, when young, assume they are wiser and therefore must be different from their immediate predecessors. In the future, a new crop of youngsters will look somewhat smugly on the by-then aging Millennials.

The PPRI poll, done with the Brookings Institution, shows only 19 percent of Americans overall are religious progressives, compared to 28 percent who are religious conservatives, while 38 percent are religious moderates. Fifteen percent are nonreligious. The survey emphasized views on economic issues, not social issues. Predictably religious liberals want more government-orchestrated equality, and religious conservatives want more economic freedom and opportunity. When focused strictly on theology, 39 percent are conservative versus 19 percent liberal.

Unsurprisingly, the poll also showed that religion is less important to religious liberals than for conservatives. Eleven percent of religious progressives say religion is most important compared to 59 percent of religious conservatives. And nearly 90 percent of religious liberals believe religion should be a private matter, limiting its political application, while only about half of conservatives agreed.

At the poll’s unveiling, former New York Times religion writer Peter Steinfels readily admitted that religious liberals will not necessarily outpace conservatives in American politics. He doubted religion for liberals “can play anything like the motivating, energizing, and organizing force of religion among religious conservatives.”

The head of PPRI likewise admitted that religious progressives are a more “complicated heterogeneous group of people to communicate with and organize with.” They are less committed to religious institutions and less frequent attenders of places of worship than are religious conservatives.

Still, some media reports have latched onto the poll as evidence of the Religious Left’s ascendancy, even though the premise only works if each generation stays on the same fixed trajectory. Secular elites have nearly always reserved special contempt for religious conservatives, befuddled by their vast numbers in middle America, and miffed by their intransigence to the full liberal agenda. They never figured out how to outflank them, since most religious conservatives don’t care much about secular elites or their mockery. But this new poll gives hope that demography eventually will eradicate the dreaded Religious Right.

Their hopes will likely be disappointed. Many Millennials will become more religious and conservative as they age, especially if they marry and have children. And the subsequent generation almost certainly will rebel against their predecessor’s hipster outlook, just as diligent Generation Xers reacted against the soaring hippy activism of their Baby Boomer predecessors. Religious conservatives also have more children than religious liberals or secularists.

There is also the institutional collapse of organized liberal religion. All liberal-controlled denominations are suffering massive membership loss. Fifty years ago, one in six Americans belonged to the largest seven liberal Mainline Protestant denominations. Today it is one in 16. All growing denominations are theologically conservative, as are most thriving non-denominational congregations. Almost all the largest seminaries today are conservative. Among Catholics, young priests are decidedly more conservative than retired priests. Urban churches that attract the much vaunted Millennials are typically evangelical, not liberal.

Liberal religion is usually a reaction against trans-generational orthodoxy, not a sustaining alternative to it. In contrast, religious orthodoxy is not a guarantee of vibrancy and growth but it almost always is a prerequisite.

The next generation of religious conservatives may speak differently from yesterday’s Religious Right. But they will still be conservative and likely much more numerous than liberal counterparts. The Left often expects abstract tides of history to ensure its final victory. But religious liberals, who almost always dilute the doctrines of their faith to replace or supplement them with secular fads, usually ensure their own demise.

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stormcris
by Christy on Aug. 2, 2013 at 8:38 AM
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Perhaps in the grand scheme of things religions would be better off with leaving out politics. Church and state just do not mix well.

Donna6503
by Gold Member on Aug. 2, 2013 at 8:42 AM
Hmmm, attendance at left leaning churches has been on a decline for some years ( decades ) now.

Most of the growth on church attendances has been with conservative churches or conservative evangelical churches.

As a rule, most regular attending church goers have been conservative and voted for the GOP, well it's a rule for white Americans.

As for minorities in America, for the small percentage of minorities that do vote for the GOP, you'll find a majority of such voters tend to be regular church goers themselves.
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by Gold Member on Aug. 2, 2013 at 8:43 AM
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The goodness of God; will never be found in the politics of man.


Quoting stormcris:

Perhaps in the grand scheme of things religions would be better off with leaving out politics. Church and state just do not mix well.


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candlegal
by Judy on Aug. 2, 2013 at 9:10 AM
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My religion is part of my politics.  How do you leave out your beliefs.

Quoting stormcris:

Perhaps in the grand scheme of things religions would be better off with leaving out politics. Church and state just do not mix well.


romalove
by Roma on Aug. 2, 2013 at 9:13 AM
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Quoting candlegal:

My religion is part of my politics.  How do you leave out your beliefs.

Quoting stormcris:

Perhaps in the grand scheme of things religions would be better off with leaving out politics. Church and state just do not mix well.


This is about as close to an admission that you'd like a theocracy as we're likely to get.

Frightening, actually.

stormcris
by Christy on Aug. 2, 2013 at 9:18 AM
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Actually what I said was to leave your politics out of your religion. There is no need to take a political platform into your religious beliefs. Your beliefs decide your vote most likely but does what you vote on need to be brought into church. Does the church need to tell you how to vote? Should the church tell you how to act and decide on things in the political spectrum? Many churches do. Several preachers will create entire sermons around political issues. You know what your religion teaches, it is up to you to apply that to your life in the ways you see fit. It is not conducive to teaching that the elders should dictate how you apply it. They are meant to teach you what your religion states. It is much more welcoming when people gather religiously to fellowship not have a debate over how the government should work.

Quoting candlegal:

My religion is part of my politics.  How do you leave out your beliefs.

Quoting stormcris:

Perhaps in the grand scheme of things religions would be better off with leaving out politics. Church and state just do not mix well.



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by Redwood Witch on Aug. 2, 2013 at 9:19 AM
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Quite.

Quoting romalove:


Quoting candlegal:

My religion is part of my politics.  How do you leave out your beliefs.

Quoting stormcris:

Perhaps in the grand scheme of things religions would be better off with leaving out politics. Church and state just do not mix well.


This is about as close to an admission that you'd like a theocracy as we're likely to get.

Frightening, actually.

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by Gold Member on Aug. 2, 2013 at 9:19 AM

 


Quoting Donna6503:

Hmmm, attendance at left leaning churches has been on a decline for some years ( decades ) now.

Most of the growth on church attendances has been with conservative churches or conservative evangelical churches.

As a rule, most regular attending church goers have been conservative and voted for the GOP, well it's a rule for white Americans.

As for minorities in America, for the small percentage of minorities that do vote for the GOP, you'll find a majority of such voters tend to be regular church goers themselves.

Then why were the republicans crying that black preachers were suggesting to their congregations that they vote for Obama?

Historically, black churches have been forces for and of positive change in the black community. Positive change in the black community does NOT equate with voting Republican.

 

candlegal
by Judy on Aug. 2, 2013 at 9:20 AM

This is news to you?    SMH

Quoting romalove:


Quoting candlegal:

My religion is part of my politics.  How do you leave out your beliefs.

Quoting stormcris:

Perhaps in the grand scheme of things religions would be better off with leaving out politics. Church and state just do not mix well.


This is about as close to an admission that you'd like a theocracy as we're likely to get.

Frightening, actually.


candlegal
by Judy on Aug. 2, 2013 at 9:22 AM

My Priest does not discuss politics.   I wish he would.

Quoting stormcris:

Actually what I said was to leave your politics out of your religion. There is no need to take a political platform into your religious beliefs. Your beliefs decide your vote most likely but does what you vote on need to be brought into church. Does the church need to tell you how to vote? Should the church tell you how to act and decide on things in the political spectrum? Many churches do. Several preachers will create entire sermons around political issues. You know what your religion teaches, it is up to you to apply that to your life in the ways you see fit. It is not conducive to teaching that the elders should dictate how you apply it. They are meant to teach you what your religion states. It is much more welcoming when people gather religiously to fellowship not have a debate over how the government should work.

Quoting candlegal:

My religion is part of my politics.  How do you leave out your beliefs.

Quoting stormcris:

Perhaps in the grand scheme of things religions would be better off with leaving out politics. Church and state just do not mix well.




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