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Right-wing push poll accidentally finds Obamacare popular

Heritage's new poll oversamples Republicans and asks misleading questions -- but finds most want to keep Obamacare

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Heritage Action, the activist wing of the conservative Heritage Foundation, is out with a new poll today that’s getting some favorable coverage in the mainstream political press. According to Heritage, the survey shows that the GOP shouldn’t fear a government shutdown over Obamacare defunding. But there’s a catch.

The background here is that a group of conservative senators, including Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and Marco Rubio, are trying to push Republican leaders to demand that Congress defund Obamacare in upcoming appropriations battles , even if it means forcing the government to shut down. Heritage supports the effort, so it took the poll to try to steel the spines of Republican leaders.

“Americans — including 57 percent of independents in ten critical congressional districts — favor defunding Obamacare,” said Michael Needham, the CEO of Heritage Action. “House Republicans should be much more concerned with the fallout of failing to defund Obamacare than with the imaginary fallout of doing so.”

What Needham fails to mention, however, is that even this push poll that dramatically oversamples Republicans (more on that in a minute) finds respondents are more likely to say that the Affordable Care Act should be kept than scrapped — and that a plurality would blame Republicans if the government were to shut down.

Only 44.5 percent “oppose the health care law and think it should be repealed,” while 52 percent either support the law as is or have some concerns, but say they think implementation should move forward. And asked whom they would blame if “there was an impasse between president Obama and Congress on whether to continue to fund the health care law, and that impasse resulted in a partial government shutdown,” the top response (28 percent) was Republicans in Congress. The next option, Obama, got 21 percent of respondents.

As for Heritage’s sample, which NBC calls voters from “10 relatively competitive congressional districts,” and Heritage says represents “the American people” as a whole — not so much.


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Josh Dorner of the Center for American Progress Action Fund — Heritage Action’s ideological rival — cries foul. He sent over the partisan breakdown of each of the 10 districts and noted that every single one leans Republican:

o FL-2 Southerland R+5
o GA-12 Barrow R+9
o IL-18 Schock R+10
o NJ-7 Lance R+6
o NC-2 Ellmers R+11
o NC-7 McIntyre R+11
o OH-12 Tiberi R+8
o OR-2 Walden R+10
o UT-4 Matheson R+14
o WV-3 Rahall R+14

The poll even asked respondents directly for their party affiliation. Not surprisingly, there were almost 10 percentage points more Republicans (41.8 percent) than Democrats (33 percent). That looks even worse when you consider that more people identify as Democrats than Republicans nationwide, and by a margin of 7 percentage points, according to the latest Gallup survey. That means that Heritage’s poll is arguably oversampling Republicans by around 15 percent.

One could further take issue with a poll that asks respondents leading questions like, do you think Congress should “halt funding for the health care law before provisions take effect, to make sure they do not do more harm than good?”

And the key question of the survey — would you support a government shutdown to defund Obamacare? — is comically euphemistic, calling a hypothetical shutdown a “temporary slowdown in non-essential federal government operations, which still left all essential government services running.”

And yet, despite oversampling Republicans and asking misleading questions, the poll still finds that pluralities favor keeping Obamacare and that Republicans would bear the brunt of the public’s wrath if the government shuts down.

by on Aug. 15, 2013 at 8:59 AM
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numbr1wmn
by Nikki on Aug. 17, 2013 at 8:51 AM
1 mom liked this

 

Why am I hearing crickets?....

Quoting grandmab125:

 Oh now, don't burst their kool-aid reinforced bubble with facts.

Quoting numbr1wmn:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/

As problems continue to pile up over the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, summertime polls from Fox News, Gallup and Rasmussen signal that growing confusion over the complexities of the law, how it will be rolled out and how much it will cost is eroding public support.   

A majority of Americans say they believe the new health care law will increase their medical costs and taxes, according to an Aug. 8 Fox News poll. The survey found 57 percent of those polled felt the way ObamaCare was being rolled out was "a joke." 

Overall, 63 percent of voters believe that the 2010 health care law needs to be changed. That number is up from 58 percent of those asked the question in July 2012. 

The number of Republicans who think the law should be changed remained steady at 84 percent. According to the poll, more voters used negative terms to describe the health care overhaul -- with 39 percent calling it "disastrous" and 14 percent calling it "a step backwards." 



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/#ixzz2c8txUvms

Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample For/Favor Against/Oppose Spread
RCP Average 6/20 - 8/10 -- 39.5 51.3 Against/Oppose +11.8
Rasmussen Reports* 8/9 - 8/10 1000 LV 41 53 Against/Oppose +12
FOX News* 7/21 - 7/23 1017 RV 40 53 Against/Oppose +13
CBS News 7/18 - 7/22 1036 A 36 54 Against/Oppose +18
ABC News/Wash Post 7/18 - 7/21 1002 A 42 49 Against/Oppose +7
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 7/17 - 7/21 1000 A 34 47 Against/Oppose +13
Gallup 6/20 - 6/24 2048 A 44 52 Against/Oppose +8

All Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law Polling Data

 

 


 

numbr1wmn
by Nikki on Aug. 17, 2013 at 8:53 AM
1 mom liked this

Crrickets....

candlegal
by Judy on Aug. 17, 2013 at 9:05 AM

A lot of crickets here today.

romalove
by Roma on Aug. 17, 2013 at 9:10 AM

They didn't call me.

I think ACA is a horrific law.

cjsbmom
by Lois Lane on Aug. 17, 2013 at 9:11 AM
3 moms liked this

All of this confusion would not be happening if Obama had just done what he actually promised, which was to bring universal healthcare to the US. There is no confusion about how that works. No insurance exchanges to establish and monitor. No wondering if you're in network or not. No fines if you're not insured because everyone is insured. You walk into any doctor's office or hospital and you receive treatment. It's really quite simple. What complicated it was Congress' hissy fit in refusing to allow real healthcare reform in this country, so now we're stuck with the clusterfuck that is the ACA. 

Quoting numbr1wmn:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/

As problems continue to pile up over the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, summertime polls from Fox News, Gallup and Rasmussen signal that growing confusion over the complexities of the law, how it will be rolled out and how much it will cost is eroding public support.   

A majority of Americans say they believe the new health care law will increase their medical costs and taxes, according to an Aug. 8 Fox News poll. The survey found 57 percent of those polled felt the way ObamaCare was being rolled out was "a joke." 

Overall, 63 percent of voters believe that the 2010 health care law needs to be changed. That number is up from 58 percent of those asked the question in July 2012. 

The number of Republicans who think the law should be changed remained steady at 84 percent. According to the poll, more voters used negative terms to describe the health care overhaul -- with 39 percent calling it "disastrous" and 14 percent calling it "a step backwards." 



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/#ixzz2c8txUvms

Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample For/Favor Against/Oppose Spread
RCP Average 6/20 - 8/10 -- 39.5 51.3 Against/Oppose +11.8
Rasmussen Reports* 8/9 - 8/10 1000 LV 41 53 Against/Oppose +12
FOX News* 7/21 - 7/23 1017 RV 40 53 Against/Oppose +13
CBS News 7/18 - 7/22 1036 A 36 54 Against/Oppose +18
ABC News/Wash Post 7/18 - 7/21 1002 A 42 49 Against/Oppose +7
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 7/17 - 7/21 1000 A 34 47 Against/Oppose +13
Gallup 6/20 - 6/24 2048 A 44 52 Against/Oppose +8

All Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law Polling Data

 


numbr1wmn
by Nikki on Aug. 17, 2013 at 10:02 AM
1 mom liked this

 Universal healthcare gives more power to the government. Hell NO


Quoting cjsbmom:

All of this confusion would not be happening if Obama had just done what he actually promised, which was to bring universal healthcare to the US. There is no confusion about how that works. No insurance exchanges to establish and monitor. No wondering if you're in network or not. No fines if you're not insured because everyone is insured. You walk into any doctor's office or hospital and you receive treatment. It's really quite simple. What complicated it was Congress' hissy fit in refusing to allow real healthcare reform in this country, so now we're stuck with the clusterfuck that is the ACA. 

Quoting numbr1wmn:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/

As problems continue to pile up over the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, summertime polls from Fox News, Gallup and Rasmussen signal that growing confusion over the complexities of the law, how it will be rolled out and how much it will cost is eroding public support.   

A majority of Americans say they believe the new health care law will increase their medical costs and taxes, according to an Aug. 8 Fox News poll. The survey found 57 percent of those polled felt the way ObamaCare was being rolled out was "a joke." 

Overall, 63 percent of voters believe that the 2010 health care law needs to be changed. That number is up from 58 percent of those asked the question in July 2012. 

The number of Republicans who think the law should be changed remained steady at 84 percent. According to the poll, more voters used negative terms to describe the health care overhaul -- with 39 percent calling it "disastrous" and 14 percent calling it "a step backwards." 



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/#ixzz2c8txUvms

Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample For/Favor Against/Oppose Spread
RCP Average 6/20 - 8/10 -- 39.5 51.3 Against/Oppose +11.8
Rasmussen Reports* 8/9 - 8/10 1000 LV 41 53 Against/Oppose +12
FOX News* 7/21 - 7/23 1017 RV 40 53 Against/Oppose +13
CBS News 7/18 - 7/22 1036 A 36 54 Against/Oppose +18
ABC News/Wash Post 7/18 - 7/21 1002 A 42 49 Against/Oppose +7
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 7/17 - 7/21 1000 A 34 47 Against/Oppose +13
Gallup 6/20 - 6/24 2048 A 44 52 Against/Oppose +8

All Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law Polling Data

 



 

cjsbmom
by Lois Lane on Aug. 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Not if it's done correctly. Do you know anyone who lives in a country with universal healthcare?

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 Universal healthcare gives more power to the government. Hell NO


Quoting cjsbmom:

All of this confusion would not be happening if Obama had just done what he actually promised, which was to bring universal healthcare to the US. There is no confusion about how that works. No insurance exchanges to establish and monitor. No wondering if you're in network or not. No fines if you're not insured because everyone is insured. You walk into any doctor's office or hospital and you receive treatment. It's really quite simple. What complicated it was Congress' hissy fit in refusing to allow real healthcare reform in this country, so now we're stuck with the clusterfuck that is the ACA. 

Quoting numbr1wmn:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/

As problems continue to pile up over the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, summertime polls from Fox News, Gallup and Rasmussen signal that growing confusion over the complexities of the law, how it will be rolled out and how much it will cost is eroding public support.   

A majority of Americans say they believe the new health care law will increase their medical costs and taxes, according to an Aug. 8 Fox News poll. The survey found 57 percent of those polled felt the way ObamaCare was being rolled out was "a joke." 

Overall, 63 percent of voters believe that the 2010 health care law needs to be changed. That number is up from 58 percent of those asked the question in July 2012. 

The number of Republicans who think the law should be changed remained steady at 84 percent. According to the poll, more voters used negative terms to describe the health care overhaul -- with 39 percent calling it "disastrous" and 14 percent calling it "a step backwards." 



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/#ixzz2c8txUvms

Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample For/Favor Against/Oppose Spread
RCP Average 6/20 - 8/10 -- 39.5 51.3 Against/Oppose +11.8
Rasmussen Reports* 8/9 - 8/10 1000 LV 41 53 Against/Oppose +12
FOX News* 7/21 - 7/23 1017 RV 40 53 Against/Oppose +13
CBS News 7/18 - 7/22 1036 A 36 54 Against/Oppose +18
ABC News/Wash Post 7/18 - 7/21 1002 A 42 49 Against/Oppose +7
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 7/17 - 7/21 1000 A 34 47 Against/Oppose +13
Gallup 6/20 - 6/24 2048 A 44 52 Against/Oppose +8

All Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law Polling Data

 





numbr1wmn
by Nikki on Aug. 17, 2013 at 12:09 PM
1 mom liked this

 When has the USA's government ever do things correctly?


Quoting cjsbmom:

Not if it's done correctly. Do you know anyone who lives in a country with universal healthcare?

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 Universal healthcare gives more power to the government. Hell NO

 

Quoting cjsbmom:

All of this confusion would not be happening if Obama had just done what he actually promised, which was to bring universal healthcare to the US. There is no confusion about how that works. No insurance exchanges to establish and monitor. No wondering if you're in network or not. No fines if you're not insured because everyone is insured. You walk into any doctor's office or hospital and you receive treatment. It's really quite simple. What complicated it was Congress' hissy fit in refusing to allow real healthcare reform in this country, so now we're stuck with the clusterfuck that is the ACA. 

Quoting numbr1wmn:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/

As problems continue to pile up over the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, summertime polls from Fox News, Gallup and Rasmussen signal that growing confusion over the complexities of the law, how it will be rolled out and how much it will cost is eroding public support.   

A majority of Americans say they believe the new health care law will increase their medical costs and taxes, according to an Aug. 8 Fox News poll. The survey found 57 percent of those polled felt the way ObamaCare was being rolled out was "a joke." 

Overall, 63 percent of voters believe that the 2010 health care law needs to be changed. That number is up from 58 percent of those asked the question in July 2012. 

The number of Republicans who think the law should be changed remained steady at 84 percent. According to the poll, more voters used negative terms to describe the health care overhaul -- with 39 percent calling it "disastrous" and 14 percent calling it "a step backwards." 



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/#ixzz2c8txUvms

Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample For/Favor Against/Oppose Spread
RCP Average 6/20 - 8/10 -- 39.5 51.3 Against/Oppose +11.8
Rasmussen Reports* 8/9 - 8/10 1000 LV 41 53 Against/Oppose +12
FOX News* 7/21 - 7/23 1017 RV 40 53 Against/Oppose +13
CBS News 7/18 - 7/22 1036 A 36 54 Against/Oppose +18
ABC News/Wash Post 7/18 - 7/21 1002 A 42 49 Against/Oppose +7
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 7/17 - 7/21 1000 A 34 47 Against/Oppose +13
Gallup 6/20 - 6/24 2048 A 44 52 Against/Oppose +8

All Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law Polling Data

 


 

 



 

cjsbmom
by Lois Lane on Aug. 17, 2013 at 12:19 PM
1 mom liked this

It's our fault because we keep electing the same dumbasses into office. If we don't like it, we need to change it. 

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 When has the USA's government ever do things correctly?


Quoting cjsbmom:

Not if it's done correctly. Do you know anyone who lives in a country with universal healthcare?

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 Universal healthcare gives more power to the government. Hell NO


Quoting cjsbmom:

All of this confusion would not be happening if Obama had just done what he actually promised, which was to bring universal healthcare to the US. There is no confusion about how that works. No insurance exchanges to establish and monitor. No wondering if you're in network or not. No fines if you're not insured because everyone is insured. You walk into any doctor's office or hospital and you receive treatment. It's really quite simple. What complicated it was Congress' hissy fit in refusing to allow real healthcare reform in this country, so now we're stuck with the clusterfuck that is the ACA. 

Quoting numbr1wmn:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/

As problems continue to pile up over the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, summertime polls from Fox News, Gallup and Rasmussen signal that growing confusion over the complexities of the law, how it will be rolled out and how much it will cost is eroding public support.   

A majority of Americans say they believe the new health care law will increase their medical costs and taxes, according to an Aug. 8 Fox News poll. The survey found 57 percent of those polled felt the way ObamaCare was being rolled out was "a joke." 

Overall, 63 percent of voters believe that the 2010 health care law needs to be changed. That number is up from 58 percent of those asked the question in July 2012. 

The number of Republicans who think the law should be changed remained steady at 84 percent. According to the poll, more voters used negative terms to describe the health care overhaul -- with 39 percent calling it "disastrous" and 14 percent calling it "a step backwards." 



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/#ixzz2c8txUvms

Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample For/Favor Against/Oppose Spread
RCP Average 6/20 - 8/10 -- 39.5 51.3 Against/Oppose +11.8
Rasmussen Reports* 8/9 - 8/10 1000 LV 41 53 Against/Oppose +12
FOX News* 7/21 - 7/23 1017 RV 40 53 Against/Oppose +13
CBS News 7/18 - 7/22 1036 A 36 54 Against/Oppose +18
ABC News/Wash Post 7/18 - 7/21 1002 A 42 49 Against/Oppose +7
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 7/17 - 7/21 1000 A 34 47 Against/Oppose +13
Gallup 6/20 - 6/24 2048 A 44 52 Against/Oppose +8

All Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law Polling Data

 








numbr1wmn
by Nikki on Aug. 17, 2013 at 12:22 PM
2 moms liked this

 http://www.balancedpolitics.org/universal_health_care.htm

Government-controlled health care would lead to a decrease in patient flexibility.At first glance, it would appear universal health care would increase flexibility. After all, if government paid for everything under one plan, you could in theory go to any doctor. However, some controls are going to have to be put in to keep costs from exploding. For example, would "elective" surgeries such as breast implants, wart removal, hair restoration, and lasik eye surgery be covered? Then you may say, that's easy, make patients pay for elective surgery. Although some procedures are obviously not needed, who decides what is elective and what is required? What about a breast reduction for back problems? What about a hysterectomy for fibroid problems? What about a nose job to fix a septum problem caused in an accident? Whenever you have government control of something, you have one item added to the equation that will most definitely screw things up--politics. Suddenly, every medical procedure and situation is going to come down to a political battle. The compromises that result will put in controls that limit patient options. The universal system in Canada forces patients to wait over 6 months for a routine pap smear. Canada residents will often go to the U.S. or offer additional money to get their health care needs taken care of.

 


Quoting cjsbmom:

It's our fault because we keep electing the same dumbasses into office. If we don't like it, we need to change it. 

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 When has the USA's government ever do things correctly?

 

Quoting cjsbmom:

Not if it's done correctly. Do you know anyone who lives in a country with universal healthcare?

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 Universal healthcare gives more power to the government. Hell NO

 

Quoting cjsbmom:

All of this confusion would not be happening if Obama had just done what he actually promised, which was to bring universal healthcare to the US. There is no confusion about how that works. No insurance exchanges to establish and monitor. No wondering if you're in network or not. No fines if you're not insured because everyone is insured. You walk into any doctor's office or hospital and you receive treatment. It's really quite simple. What complicated it was Congress' hissy fit in refusing to allow real healthcare reform in this country, so now we're stuck with the clusterfuck that is the ACA. 

Quoting numbr1wmn:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/

As problems continue to pile up over the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, summertime polls from Fox News, Gallup and Rasmussen signal that growing confusion over the complexities of the law, how it will be rolled out and how much it will cost is eroding public support.   

A majority of Americans say they believe the new health care law will increase their medical costs and taxes, according to an Aug. 8 Fox News poll. The survey found 57 percent of those polled felt the way ObamaCare was being rolled out was "a joke." 

Overall, 63 percent of voters believe that the 2010 health care law needs to be changed. That number is up from 58 percent of those asked the question in July 2012. 

The number of Republicans who think the law should be changed remained steady at 84 percent. According to the poll, more voters used negative terms to describe the health care overhaul -- with 39 percent calling it "disastrous" and 14 percent calling it "a step backwards." 



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/#ixzz2c8txUvms

Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample For/Favor Against/Oppose Spread
RCP Average 6/20 - 8/10 -- 39.5 51.3 Against/Oppose +11.8
Rasmussen Reports* 8/9 - 8/10 1000 LV 41 53 Against/Oppose +12
FOX News* 7/21 - 7/23 1017 RV 40 53 Against/Oppose +13
CBS News 7/18 - 7/22 1036 A 36 54 Against/Oppose +18
ABC News/Wash Post 7/18 - 7/21 1002 A 42 49 Against/Oppose +7
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 7/17 - 7/21 1000 A 34 47 Against/Oppose +13
Gallup 6/20 - 6/24 2048 A 44 52 Against/Oppose +8

All Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law Polling Data

 


 

 


 

 



 

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