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Christie to sign ban on gay conversion therapy

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TRENTON, N.J. (AP) - Gov. Chris Christie plans to sign a bill Monday barring licensed therapists from trying to turn gay teenagers straight, making New Jersey the second state to ban so-called conversion therapy, along with California.

The bill passed both houses of the New Jersey Legislature with bipartisan support in June. Assemblyman Tim Eustace, who sponsored the bill and is openly gay, described the therapy as "an insidious form of child abuse."

In a signing note accompanying the bill that will be made public Monday, Christie said he believes people are born gay and that homosexuality is not a sin. That view is inconsistent with his Catholic faith, which teaches that homosexual acts are sins.

The Republican governor also said the health risks of trying to change a child's sexual orientation, as identified by the American Psychological Association, outweigh concerns over the government setting limits on parental choice.

"Government should tread carefully into this area," he said in the signing note, which was obtained by The Associated Press, "and I do so here reluctantly."

"However, I also believe that on the issues of medical treatment for children we must look to experts in the field to determine the relative risks and rewards," Christie said, citing a litany of potential ill effects of trying to change sexual orientation, including depression and suicide. "I believe that exposing children to these health risks without clear evidence of benefits that outweigh these serious risks is not appropriate."

Gay rights activists applauded the ban but pushed for more.

"It is our truest hope that the governor will realize, as the majority of the legislature and a super-majority of the pubic have realized, that the best way to ensure lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender youth are protected from the abuse of being ostracized is to provide them with equality," Troy Stevenson, executive director of the state's largest gay rights group, Garden State Equality, said in a statement.

Christie previously vetoed gay marriage legislation. He has said he supports the state's civil union law, which was enacted to give gay couples the benefits of marriage but not the title. Gay couples have since sued, claiming that the law provides unequal treatment to same-sex couples. Their lawyers say the U.S. Supreme Court ruling granting federal benefits to gay married couples strengthens their case in state court, while Christie administration lawyers say the federal government should recognize the state's civil union law as the equivalent to marriage. A trial court decision is expected next month.

Gay rights groups say the practice of conversion therapy is damaging to young people because it tells them that it's not acceptable to be whoever they are.

Some social conservatives framed the debate as a parental rights issue, saying a ban on the counseling would limit the ability of parents to do what they think is best for their children.

The idea of conversion therapy is an old one that has increasingly drawn criticism for its methods. Last year, four gay men sued a Jersey City group for fraud, saying its program included making them strip naked and attack effigies of their mothers with baseball bats.

Lawmakers heard horror stories from some during hearings on the ban, including Brielle Goldani of Toms River, who testified she underwent electric shocks and was given drugs to induce vomiting after being sent to an Ohio camp at age 14 to become straight.

But, they also heard from Tara King, a Brick-based counselor, who said she should be allowed to "fix" what patients, even under-aged clients, want fixed.


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link to bill: http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2012/Bills/A3500/3371_I1.HTM

by on Aug. 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM
Replies (51-59):
katy_kay08
by on Aug. 19, 2013 at 7:34 PM
3 moms liked this

there is at least a handful or two.  ;) 

Quoting mehamil1:

You mean there's a republican out there that isn't off their fucking rocker??? 


lga1965
by on Aug. 19, 2013 at 7:40 PM
I like this guy more all the time. He's beginning to be a true Republican, the kind I voted for 40 years ago. The fake Republicans should learn how to be good people, not judgmental controlling narrow-minded Tea Party offshoots.
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lizzielouaf
by Gold Member on Aug. 19, 2013 at 7:48 PM
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Silly girl, republicans would never allow "fucking" rockers.


Quoting mehamil1:

You mean there's a republican out there that isn't off their fucking rocker??? 


mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Aug. 19, 2013 at 7:49 PM
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They take the fun out of everything! 

Quoting lizzielouaf:
Silly girl, republicans would never allow "fucking" rockers.
Quoting mehamil1:

You mean there's a republican out there that isn't off their fucking rocker??? 

LauraKW
by "Dude!" on Aug. 19, 2013 at 10:14 PM
What she said. I like some of the things Christie has done, but I don't like him and wouldn't vote for him. He is shrewd, though, have to give him that.

Quoting cjsbmom:

He signed it. Just saw an update about it. 

I'm not sure what I think of this guy. Sometimes, he does good stuff, and other times, I shake my head and say WTF? But this is definitely a good thing. So I applaud him for it. 

Goodwoman614
by Satan on Aug. 19, 2013 at 11:19 PM
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Quoting candlegal:

He really needs to change the letter behind his name.


Because being a sick, twisted homophobe of a parent who'd ship their kid off to one of these places,

AND being anti-sience means you're probably a republican.


lga1965
by on Aug. 19, 2013 at 11:24 PM

 

Quoting Goodwoman614:

 

 

Quoting candlegal:

He really needs to change the letter behind his name.

 

Because being a sick, twisted homophobe of a parent who'd ship their kid off to one of these places,

AND being anti-sience means you're probably a republican.

 

 you rockExactly!

candlegal
by Judy on Aug. 20, 2013 at 5:19 AM

It is almost as if being gay is some kind of badge of honor.

Quoting TranquilMind:

Whatever.

Like they are flocking in droves to get this therapy in the first place. Gee, today, if anything, parents are proudly proclaiming their children "gay" as toddlers! 

It IS a parental rights decision.  The government has NO business interfering, but it did already.  Smart parents can figure out the best thing to do.  Those examples are extreme, extreme ones that rarely happen. 


candlegal
by Judy on Aug. 20, 2013 at 5:21 AM

I agree and there is a certain base he is just trying to appease.

Quoting TranquilMind:

 Not a problem.  Rarely used anyway, statistically.

Quoting jaxTheMomm:

And now, in 2 states, so is another form of child abuse.  Gay conversion "therapy".


Quoting TranquilMind:

 Agreed.

Those are criminal acts.

Quoting jaxTheMomm:

Beating the snot out of your child or starving them is a parental rights decision, and the government interferes in that as well.

Thank goodness.

Quoting TranquilMind:

Whatever.

Like they are flocking in droves to get this therapy in the first place. Gee, today, if anything, parents are proudly proclaiming their children "gay" as toddlers! 

It IS a parental rights decision.  The government has NO business interfering, but it did already.  Smart parents can figure out the best thing to do.  Those examples are extreme, extreme ones that rarely happen. 



 



 


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