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Don't Ignore Race in Christoper Lane's Murder

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Don't Ignore Race in Christopher Lane's Murder: The association of young black men with violence doesn't come out of thin air

Australian baseball player ChristopherEAST CENTRAL UNIVERSITY / HANDOUT / EPA

Christopher Lane

Australian Christopher Lane was killed on Monday in Oklahoma by three teens, one of whom has said they were just "bored." The right is complaining that the media is making nothing of the fact that two of the teens were black whereas Lane was white, as opposed to the massive alarm sounded in cases such as white (or white-ish) George Zimmerman killing black Trayvon Martin. And again the cry was heard that there is more "black-on-black" or "black-on-white" crime than "white-on-black," and that young black men are in fact more of a problem than people like Zimmerman.

The numbers don't lie: young black men do commit about 50% of the murders in the U.S. We don't yet know whether the attack on Lane was racially motivated, nor can we know whether the three black boys who attacked a white boy on a Florida school bus recently would not have done the same to a black kid. (Critics took Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to task for not condemning the violence.) But hardly uncommon are cases such as the two black guys who doused a white 13-year-old with gasoline and lit him on fire, saying "You get what you deserve, white boy" (Kansas City, Mo.) or 20 black kids who beat up white Matthew Owens on his porch "for Trayvon" (Mobile, Ala.).

So, it's just fake to pretend that the association of young black men with violence comes out of thin air. Young black men murder 14 times more than young white men. If the kinds of things I just mentioned were regularly done by whites, it'd be trumpeted as justification for being scared to death of them.

(MORE: McWhorter on the Real Signs of Black Power)

 

It's not that black communities are in complete denial about these statistics - Stop the Violence events are a staple of high-crime areas. But let's face it: black America isn't nearly as indignant about black boys killing one another or whites as about the occasional white cop killing one black boy, even though the former wreaks much more havoc in black communities. There is no coordinated nationwide movement equivalent to the one Martin galvanized. There are no thoughtful films "exploring" black-on-black crime the way Fruitvale Station treats the death of Oscar Grant, a young black man who was killed by transit police in Oakland, Calif.

And recent example illustrates how many blacks feel about who is murdering whom. Two weeks ago, an NYPD cop killed 14-year-old Shaaliver Douse. Douse was in the process of shooting other people, and had been charged with shooting someone else in May - and yet his aunt compared him to Martin. In her mind, the main sin was the white cop's.

(MORE: Just Because Zimmerman ‘Started It' Doesn't Mean He's Guilty)

Granted, it seems a lot easier to do something about the Zimmermans than the black thugs. Protest profiling and police departments institute new programs. But black thugs aren't moved by protests, so it can seem like we're just stuck with them.

But who's to say what would happen if black America exerted even half of the emotional fervor and brainpower it does over cases like Martin's to thinking about how to keep black boys from going wrong? Annette John-Hall had some wise words on this last year. What kind of self-image do we have to assume we can only change others, but not ourselves?

For the time being, though, it's time for the media to stop proudly emblazoning the race of white cops who kill black boys while cagily describing black teens as, say, "from the grittier part of town," as has been the case regarding Lane's killers. The media needs to be as honest with black people as we need to be with ourselves. No group gets ahead by turning away from its real problems.

MORE: The Question Bridge Project: Redefining Black Male Identity

 

John McWhorter is an associate professor of English and comparative literature at Columbia University and the author of What Language Is (and What It Isn't and What It Could Be). The views expressed are solely his own.



Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/#ixzz2cpS1xvJN

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Radarma
by "OneDar" on Aug. 23, 2013 at 5:19 PM

"The media needs to be as honest with black people as we need to be with ourselves. No group gets ahead by turning away from its real problems."

I think moms need to be honest as well.


 

T-HoneyLuv
by on Aug. 23, 2013 at 5:25 PM
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I think you should take your own advice.


Quoting Radarma:

"The media needs to be as honest with black people as we need to be with ourselves. No group gets ahead by turning away from its real problems."

I think moms need to be honest as well.



 


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Raintree
by Ruby Member on Aug. 23, 2013 at 5:27 PM
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God he was gorgeous. Just...

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by on Aug. 23, 2013 at 5:28 PM
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I would use the popcorn eating Sweet Pea but I'm on my cell.Another crappy post....ugh.
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sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Aug. 23, 2013 at 5:29 PM
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Quoting Radarma:

 

Don't Ignore Race in Christopher Lane's Murder: The association of young black men with violence doesn't come out of thin air

Australian baseball player ChristopherEAST CENTRAL UNIVERSITY / HANDOUT / EPA

Christopher Lane

Australian Christopher Lane was killed on Monday in Oklahoma by three teens, one of whom has said they were just "bored." The right is complaining that the media is making nothing of the fact that two of the teens were black whereas Lane was white, as opposed to the massive alarm sounded in cases such as white (or white-ish) George Zimmerman killing black Trayvon Martin. And again the cry was heard that there is more "black-on-black" or "black-on-white" crime than "white-on-black," and that young black men are in fact more of a problem than people like Zimmerman.

The numbers don't lie: young black men do commit about 50% of the murders in the U.S. We don't yet know whether the attack on Lane was racially motivated, nor can we know whether the three black boys who attacked a white boy on a Florida school bus recently would not have done the same to a black kid. (Critics took Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to task for not condemning the violence.) But hardly uncommon are cases such as the two black guys who doused a white 13-year-old with gasoline and lit him on fire, saying "You get what you deserve, white boy" (Kansas City, Mo.) or 20 black kids who beat up white Matthew Owens on his porch "for Trayvon" (Mobile, Ala.).

So, it's just fake to pretend that the association of young black men with violence comes out of thin air. Young black men murder 14 times more than young white men. If the kinds of things I just mentioned were regularly done by whites, it'd be trumpeted as justification for being scared to death of them.

(MORE: McWhorter on the Real Signs of Black Power)

 

It's not that black communities are in complete denial about these statistics - Stop the Violence events are a staple of high-crime areas. But let's face it: black America isn't nearly as indignant about black boys killing one another or whites as about the occasional white cop killing one black boy, even though the former wreaks much more havoc in black communities. There is no coordinated nationwide movement equivalent to the one Martin galvanized. There are no thoughtful films "exploring" black-on-black crime the way Fruitvale Station treats the death of Oscar Grant, a young black man who was killed by transit police in Oakland, Calif.

And recent example illustrates how many blacks feel about who is murdering whom. Two weeks ago, an NYPD cop killed 14-year-old Shaaliver Douse. Douse was in the process of shooting other people, and had been charged with shooting someone else in May - and yet his aunt compared him to Martin. In her mind, the main sin was the white cop's.

(MORE: Just Because Zimmerman ‘Started It' Doesn't Mean He's Guilty)

Granted, it seems a lot easier to do something about the Zimmermans than the black thugs. Protest profiling and police departments institute new programs. But black thugs aren't moved by protests, so it can seem like we're just stuck with them.

But who's to say what would happen if black America exerted even half of the emotional fervor and brainpower it does over cases like Martin's to thinking about how to keep black boys from going wrong? Annette John-Hall had some wise words on this last year. What kind of self-image do we have to assume we can only change others, but not ourselves?

For the time being, though, it's time for the media to stop proudly emblazoning the race of white cops who kill black boys while cagily describing black teens as, say, "from the grittier part of town," as has been the case regarding Lane's killers. The media needs to be as honest with black people as we need to be with ourselves. No group gets ahead by turning away from its real problems.

MORE: The Question Bridge Project: Redefining Black Male Identity

 

John McWhorter is an associate professor of English and comparative literature at Columbia University and the author of What Language Is (and What It Isn't and What It Could Be). The views expressed are solely his own.



Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/#ixzz2cpS1xvJN

I do love proving you wrong and showing your true motive The Kansas city 13 year old kid that supposedly was lit on fire for being a "white boy" was a fabricated story. Not only was it debunked, you KNOW that it was. Th link provided in the article takes you to a write up on REDSTATE that blames Obama's racism with that hate crime that never happened. The next example is that of a few teens that jumped another teen. All teens were in a school for at risk youth and the one being jumped was jumped for ratting out another of the teens for a failed weed sale...hardly new...or a hate crime. We know you hate blacks, you don't need to keep saying it
sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Aug. 23, 2013 at 5:32 PM
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and one of the murdering teens was white.... I guess he doesn't represent the white race but the black teens represent the black race gotcha
Radarma
by "OneDar" on Aug. 23, 2013 at 5:36 PM

 Wow, took you all of what, five mins to hit another post of mine.

You can say all you want about me, I don't care.

I will continue posting pieces that talk about what YOU don't have the courage to talk about.

And you REALLY wonder WHY the image of a young black male in saggy pants, crooked hat or hoody overhead is intimidating to many and stirs up negative perceptions and assumptions?

THIS article TELLS YOU WHY.

After years of MY trying to explain it to remedial minds, I would hope this article, written by a BLACK man, might get thru to some folk.



Quoting sweet-a-kins:

Quoting Radarma:

 

Don't Ignore Race in Christopher Lane's Murder: The association of young black men with violence doesn't come out of thin air

Australian baseball player ChristopherEAST CENTRAL UNIVERSITY / HANDOUT / EPA

Christopher Lane

Australian Christopher Lane was killed on Monday in Oklahoma by three teens, one of whom has said they were just "bored." The right is complaining that the media is making nothing of the fact that two of the teens were black whereas Lane was white, as opposed to the massive alarm sounded in cases such as white (or white-ish) George Zimmerman killing black Trayvon Martin. And again the cry was heard that there is more "black-on-black" or "black-on-white" crime than "white-on-black," and that young black men are in fact more of a problem than people like Zimmerman.

The numbers don't lie: young black men do commit about 50% of the murders in the U.S. We don't yet know whether the attack on Lane was racially motivated, nor can we know whether the three black boys who attacked a white boy on a Florida school bus recently would not have done the same to a black kid. (Critics took Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to task for not condemning the violence.) But hardly uncommon are cases such as the two black guys who doused a white 13-year-old with gasoline and lit him on fire, saying "You get what you deserve, white boy" (Kansas City, Mo.) or 20 black kids who beat up white Matthew Owens on his porch "for Trayvon" (Mobile, Ala.).

So, it's just fake to pretend that the association of young black men with violence comes out of thin air. Young black men murder 14 times more than young white men. If the kinds of things I just mentioned were regularly done by whites, it'd be trumpeted as justification for being scared to death of them.

(MORE: McWhorter on the Real Signs of Black Power)

 

It's not that black communities are in complete denial about these statistics - Stop the Violence events are a staple of high-crime areas. But let's face it: black America isn't nearly as indignant about black boys killing one another or whites as about the occasional white cop killing one black boy, even though the former wreaks much more havoc in black communities. There is no coordinated nationwide movement equivalent to the one Martin galvanized. There are no thoughtful films "exploring" black-on-black crime the way Fruitvale Station treats the death of Oscar Grant, a young black man who was killed by transit police in Oakland, Calif.

And recent example illustrates how many blacks feel about who is murdering whom. Two weeks ago, an NYPD cop killed 14-year-old Shaaliver Douse. Douse was in the process of shooting other people, and had been charged with shooting someone else in May - and yet his aunt compared him to Martin. In her mind, the main sin was the white cop's.

(MORE: Just Because Zimmerman ‘Started It' Doesn't Mean He's Guilty)

Granted, it seems a lot easier to do something about the Zimmermans than the black thugs. Protest profiling and police departments institute new programs. But black thugs aren't moved by protests, so it can seem like we're just stuck with them.

But who's to say what would happen if black America exerted even half of the emotional fervor and brainpower it does over cases like Martin's to thinking about how to keep black boys from going wrong? Annette John-Hall had some wise words on this last year. What kind of self-image do we have to assume we can only change others, but not ourselves?

For the time being, though, it's time for the media to stop proudly emblazoning the race of white cops who kill black boys while cagily describing black teens as, say, "from the grittier part of town," as has been the case regarding Lane's killers. The media needs to be as honest with black people as we need to be with ourselves. No group gets ahead by turning away from its real problems.

MORE: The Question Bridge Project: Redefining Black Male Identity

 

John McWhorter is an associate professor of English and comparative literature at Columbia University and the author of What Language Is (and What It Isn't and What It Could Be). The views expressed are solely his own.



Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/#ixzz2cpS1xvJN

I do love proving you wrong and showing your true motive The Kansas city 13 year old kid that supposedly was lit on fire for being a "white boy" was a fabricated story. Not only was it debunked, you KNOW that it was. Th link provided in the article takes you to a write up on REDSTATE that blames Obama's racism with that hate crime that never happened. The next example is that of a few teens that jumped another teen. All teens were in a school for at risk youth and the one being jumped was jumped for ratting out another of the teens for a failed weed sale...hardly new...or a hate crime. We know you hate blacks, you don't need to keep saying it

 

Kate_Momof3
by Silver Member on Aug. 23, 2013 at 6:02 PM

 I think he makes some good points about the media.

Race baiting is much easier to do than actually addressing the real issues like guns, gun culture, the availability of guns, the irresponsibility of gun owners, the socio-economic factors that contribute to the decline of communities. Heaven forbid we get to the root of some of these issues.

I'm willing to be honest and look at the variety of issues surrounding this epidemic. I'm not, however, going to start blaming one group over another. We've all contributed on some level or another.

LauraKW
by "Dude!" on Aug. 23, 2013 at 6:10 PM
My Captain told me not to drive my own car on business any more.
sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Aug. 23, 2013 at 6:37 PM
You're right the article posts two lies blaming blacks for something 1) that was a hoax and the other was a regular teen happening

Blacks get painted with a different brush for the same behavior as whites and for the lies told by whites

Where as whites are just individuals ...not judges as a community



Quoting Radarma:

 Wow, took you all of what, five mins to hit another post of mine.


You can say all you want about me, I don't care.


I will continue posting pieces that talk about what YOU don't have the courage to talk about.


And you REALLY wonder WHY the image of a young black male in saggy pants, crooked hat or hoody overhead is intimidating to many and stirs up negative perceptions and assumptions?


THIS article TELLS YOU WHY.

After years of MY trying to explain it to remedial minds, I would hope this article, written by a BLACK man, might get thru to some folk.




Quoting sweet-a-kins:


Quoting Radarma:


 


Don't Ignore Race in Christopher Lane's Murder: The association of young black men with violence doesn't come out of thin air


Australian baseball player ChristopherEAST CENTRAL UNIVERSITY / HANDOUT / EPA

Christopher Lane




Australian Christopher Lane was killed on Monday in Oklahoma by three teens, one of whom has said they were just "bored." The right is complaining that the media is making nothing of the fact that two of the teens were black whereas Lane was white, as opposed to the massive alarm sounded in cases such as white (or white-ish) George Zimmerman killing black Trayvon Martin. And again the cry was heard that there is more "black-on-black" or "black-on-white" crime than "white-on-black," and that young black men are in fact more of a problem than people like Zimmerman.

The numbers don't lie: young black men do commit about 50% of the murders in the U.S. We don't yet know whether the attack on Lane was racially motivated, nor can we know whether the three black boys who attacked a white boy on a Florida school bus recently would not have done the same to a black kid. (Critics took Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to task for not condemning the violence.) But hardly uncommon are cases such as the two black guys who doused a white 13-year-old with gasoline and lit him on fire, saying "You get what you deserve, white boy" (Kansas City, Mo.) or 20 black kids who beat up white Matthew Owens on his porch "for Trayvon" (Mobile, Ala.).


So, it's just fake to pretend that the association of young black men with violence comes out of thin air. Young black men murder 14 times more than young white men. If the kinds of things I just mentioned were regularly done by whites, it'd be trumpeted as justification for being scared to death of them.


(MORE: McWhorter on the Real Signs of Black Power)


 

It's not that black communities are in complete denial about these statistics - Stop the Violence events are a staple of high-crime areas. But let's face it: black America isn't nearly as indignant about black boys killing one another or whites as about the occasional white cop killing one black boy, even though the former wreaks much more havoc in black communities. There is no coordinated nationwide movement equivalent to the one Martin galvanized. There are no thoughtful films "exploring" black-on-black crime the way Fruitvale Station treats the death of Oscar Grant, a young black man who was killed by transit police in Oakland, Calif.


And recent example illustrates how many blacks feel about who is murdering whom. Two weeks ago, an NYPD cop killed 14-year-old Shaaliver Douse. Douse was in the process of shooting other people, and had been charged with shooting someone else in May - and yet his aunt compared him to Martin. In her mind, the main sin was the white cop's.


(MORE: Just Because Zimmerman ‘Started It' Doesn't Mean He's Guilty)


Granted, it seems a lot easier to do something about the Zimmermans than the black thugs. Protest profiling and police departments institute new programs. But black thugs aren't moved by protests, so it can seem like we're just stuck with them.


But who's to say what would happen if black America exerted even half of the emotional fervor and brainpower it does over cases like Martin's to thinking about how to keep black boys from going wrong? Annette John-Hall had some wise words on this last year. What kind of self-image do we have to assume we can only change others, but not ourselves?


For the time being, though, it's time for the media to stop proudly emblazoning the race of white cops who kill black boys while cagily describing black teens as, say, "from the grittier part of town," as has been the case regarding Lane's killers. The media needs to be as honest with black people as we need to be with ourselves. No group gets ahead by turning away from its real problems.


MORE: The Question Bridge Project: Redefining Black Male Identity


 






John McWhorter is an associate professor of English and comparative literature at Columbia University and the author of What Language Is (and What It Isn't and What It Could Be). The views expressed are solely his own.




Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/#ixzz2cpS1xvJN

I do love proving you wrong and showing your true motive The Kansas city 13 year old kid that supposedly was lit on fire for being a "white boy" was a fabricated story. Not only was it debunked, you KNOW that it was. Th link provided in the article takes you to a write up on REDSTATE that blames Obama's racism with that hate crime that never happened. The next example is that of a few teens that jumped another teen. All teens were in a school for at risk youth and the one being jumped was jumped for ratting out another of the teens for a failed weed sale...hardly new...or a hate crime. We know you hate blacks, you don't need to keep saying it

 

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