Join the Meeting Place for Moms!
Talk to other moms, share advice, and have fun!

(minimum 6 characters)


Posted by on Aug. 24, 2013 at 10:44 PM
  • 61 Replies

I don't know  how to do the link post other than this....

by on Aug. 24, 2013 at 10:44 PM
Add your quick reply below:
You must be a member to reply to this post.
Replies (1-10):
by on Aug. 24, 2013 at 10:52 PM

holding my spot

by Silver Member on Aug. 24, 2013 at 11:03 PM


Texas measles outbreak linked to church

The latest measles outbreak shows the need for everyone to be vaccinated, doctors say. A visitor to a Texas megachurch infected 15 people, most of whom were unvaccinated or had no vaccination records.


A measles outbreak has sickened 25 people in Texas, with most of the cases linked to a church led by the daughter of televangelist Kenneth Copeland.

Fifteen of the measles cases are centered around Eagle Mountain International Church in Newark, Texas, according to Tarrant County Public Health spokesman Al Roy. The outbreak was started by a visitor to the church who had recently traveled to a country where measles remains common.

The visitor exposed not only the congregation and staff, but the church's on-site day-care center, according to an announcement on Eagle Mountain's website.

Those sickened by measles include nine children and six adults, ranging in age from 4 months old to 44 years old. At least 12 of those infected were not fully immunized against measles, Roy says. The other patients lack documents to show whether they were vaccinated.

The 4-month-old infected with measles was too young to be vaccinated, according to the standard vaccination schedule from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That schedule recommends children get their first measles shot at age 12 to 15 months, as well as a second dose between ages 4 and 6. Babies traveling to high-risk countries can get an extra, early dose of measles vaccine, as early as 6 months old, the CDC says.

All of the school-age children infected in the church outbreak were home-schooled, health officials say. Texas requires children be vaccinated before attending school.

The measles virus is extremely contagious, and can survive in the air or on surfaces for up to two hours after a contagious person has left the room, according to the CDC. An infected person will spread the virus to about 90% of those with whom he comes in contact, unless those contacts have been vaccinated or have had measles themselves.

Church officials, who have offered vaccination clinics at the congregation, say they're working with public health officials.

Measles, which once infected up to 4 million Americans a year and killed 500 a year, has been virtually eradicated in the Western Hemisphere due to vaccines.

Sporadic outbreaks — such as recent epidemics in Minnesota and San Diego — are typically linked to unvaccinated travelers who infect unvaccinated people around them, says William Schaffner, a professor and infectious disease expert at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine in Nashville.

These outbreaks have increased in recent years as more people skip or delay vaccinations, mostly due to unfounded fears about autism.

"This is a classic example of how measles is being reintroduced," Schaffner says.

In an Aug. 15 statement, Eagle Mountain's pastor, Terri Pearsons, said she had reservations about vaccines. "The concerns we have had are primarily with very young children who have family history of autism and with bundling too many immunizations at one time," she said.

More than 20 studies have failed to find any link between autism and vaccines, even when children receive multiple shots at once. "At this point, this is not only sad, but silly," Schaffner says. "This is a sadly misinformed religious leader."

Young children are actually among the most vulnerable to measles, Schaffner says. Measles kills about one in every 1,000 people infected with the virus.

Pearsons recommends that her congregants take vitamin D to fortify their immune systems. Schaffner says there's no evidence that vitamins offer any protection against measles.

In spite of her doubts, Pearsons called on her church members to be vaccinated.

"Our children and even adults of all ages need to be immunized now to stop the spread of measles and prevent those potential complications," Pearsons said. "The disease is only shut down when all are immunized."


by Platinum Member on Aug. 25, 2013 at 12:02 AM
1 mom liked this


August 24, 2013

Follow us on TwitterBecome our friend on Facebook

Outbreaks of Measles in Vaccinated Children Intensifying


The ineffectiveness and unintended consequences of measles vaccination

by Dr Viera Scheibner (PhD)
International Medical Counsel on Vaccination

Measles vaccine introduction

Measles vaccination in the US and many other countries started in the early 1960s, at the time when measles was naturally abating and was heading for the 18 year low. That's why the vaccine seemingly lowered the incidence; however, this was only coincidental with the natural dynamics of measles.

us measles 1024x637 Outbreaks of Measles in Vaccinated Children Intensifying


Image from - Click image to enlarge.

As one of many examples involving all infectious diseases of childhood against which vaccines have been developed, ever since any measles vaccines have been introduced and used in mass proportions, reports of outbreaks and epidemics of measles in even 100% vaccinated populations started filling pages in medical journals.

Reports of serious reactions including deaths also appeared with increasing frequency. They are the subject of a separate essay.

Atypical measles - a new phenomenon only in the vaccinated

It is less well known to the general public that vaccinated children started developing an especially vicious form of measles, due to the altered host immune response caused by the deleterious effect of the measles vaccines. It resisted all orthodox treatment and carried a high mortality rate.

It has become known as atypical measles. (AMS)

Rauh and Schmidt (1965) described nine cases of AMS which occurred in 1963 during a measles epidemic in Cincinnati. The authors followed 386 children who had received three doses of killed measles virus vaccine in 1961. Of these 386 children, 125 had been exposed to measles and 54 developed it [i.e. measles].

The new, atypical measles, occurring in the vaccinated was characterised by high fever, unusual rash and pneumonia, often with history of vaccination with killed measles vaccine.

Rauh and Schmidt (1965) concluded that, "It is obvious that three injections of killed vaccine had not protected a large percentage of children against measles when exposed within a period of two-and-a-half years after immunization".

Fulginiti (1967) also described the occurrence of atypical measles in ten children who had received inactivated (killed) measles virus vaccine five to six years previously.

Nichols (1979) wrote that atypical measles is generally thought to be a hypersensitivity response to natural measles infection in individuals who have previously received killed measles vaccine, although several investigators have reported AMS-like illness in children who had been vaccinated only with live measles vaccine.

He wrote that during a measles epidemic in 1974-1975 in Northern California, a number of physicians reported laboratory-confirmed measles in patients who had signs and symptoms, compatible with AMS..."We developed case criteria on the basis of serology and rash distribution and morphology. In typical measles a maculopapular rash occurs first at the hairline, progresses caudally, is concentrated on the face and trunk, and is often accompanied by Koplik's spots. In AMS the rash Is morphologically a mixture of maculopapular, petechial, vesicular, and urticarial components. It usually begins and is concentrated primarily on the extremities, progresses cephalad, and is not accompanied by Koplik's spots. Cases were classified as AMS if patients had 1) a rash with the distribution and morphology characteristic of AMS, and 2) a fourfold or greater rise in titer of complement-fixing measles antibody or a convalescent titer of 256".

Continuing measles outbreaks signal increasing incidence comparable with the prevaccine era.

In the meantime, outbreaks of measles in vaccinated children have continued and intensified to this day. Contemporary observations of the ineffectiveness of vaccination indicate to me that the incidence of measles has increased and has not continued decreasing as it did for some 100 years before any type of measles vaccination was introduced.

Conrad et al. (1971) published about the dynamics of measles in the US in the last four years and conceded that measles was on the increase and that "eradication, if possible, now seems far in the future".

Barratta et al. (1970) investigated an outbreak in Florida from December 1968 to February 1969 and found little difference in the incidence of measles in vaccinated and unvaccinated children.

Right through the 1980s, measles outbreaks in fully vaccinated children have continued all over the US and all other countries with high vaccination rates all over the world.

Robertson et al. (1992) wrote that in 1985 and 1986. 152 measles outbreaks in US school-age children occurred among persons who had previously received measles vaccine. "Every 2-3 years, there is an upsurge of measles irrespective of vaccination compliance".

To cap it all: the largely unvaccinated Amish (they claim religious exemption) had not reported a single case of measles between 1970 and December 1987, for 18 years (Sutter et al. 1991). It is quite likely that a similar situation would have applied to outside communities without any vaccination and that measles vaccination had actually kept measles alive and kicking. According to Hedrich (1933), there is a variety of dynamics of measles occurrence, from 2-3 years to up to 18 years, as later also witnessed by the unvaccinated Amish.

Unfounded optimism for measles eradication in the US by 1 October 1982

Despite the obvious lack of success with measles vaccination, in October 1978, the Secretary of the Department of Health, Joseph A Califano Jr. announced, "We are launching an effort that seeks to free the United States from measles by 1 October 1982″.

Predictably, this unrealistic plan fell flatly on its face: after 1982 the US was hit repeatedly by major and even more sustained epidemics of measles, mostly in fully vaccinated populations. First, the blame was laid upon the "ineffective, formalin-inactivated (‘killed') measles vaccine, administered to hundreds of thousands of children from 1963 to 1967″. However, outbreaks and epidemics of measles continued occurring even when this first vaccine was replaced with two doses of ‘live' measles virus vaccines and the age of administration was changed.

These warnings have not been heeded. As the Swiss doctors wrote (Albonico et al. 1990), "we have lost the common sense and wisdom that used to prevail in the approach to childhood diseases. Too often, instead of reinforcing the organism's defences, fever and symptoms are relentlessly suppressed. This is not always without consequences".

Destruction of transplacentally-transmitted immunity by vaccination

Many researchers warned straight after the introduction of measles vaccine in the US that the generations of children born to mothers who were vaccinated in childhood will be born with poor or no transplacentally-transmitted immunity and will contract measles and other diseases too early in life.

Lennon and Black (1986) demonstrated that "haemaglutinin-inhibiting and neutralizing antibody titers are lower in women young enough to have been immunized by vaccination than older women". The same applied to whooping cough. It explains why so many babies before vaccination age develop these diseases, and most particularly the much publicised whooping cough.

Read the Full Article Here:

About the author

Dr Viera Scheibner is Principal Research Scientist (Retired) with a doctorate in Natural Sciences from Comenius University in Bratislava. After an eminent scientific career in micropalaeontology during which she published 3 books and some 90 scientific papers in refereed scientific journals in Australia and overseas, she studied babies' breathing patterns with the Cotwatch breathing monitor developed by her late husband Leif Karlsson in the mid 1980s. Babies had alarms after vaccination, indicating stress. This introduced her to the subject of vaccination. She then started systematically studying orthodox medical papers dealing with vaccination issues. To this day she has collected and studied more than 100000 pages of medical papers.

Despite such extensive research of orthodox medical papers published on vaccines over the past 100 years, she established that there is no scientific evidence that these injections of highly noxious substances prevent diseases, quite to the contrary, that they increase susceptibility to the diseases which the vaccines are supposed to prevent and also to a host of related and unrelated viral and bacterial infections. Vaccines are involved in a great number of modern ills of childhood such as immunoreactive diseases (asthma, allergies), autoimmune diseases (diabetes, multiple sclerosis, lupus erythematosis), cancers, leukaemia, degenerative diseases of bone and cartilage, behavioural and learning problems, to mention just the most important conditions.

Her research into vaccination has culminated so far in two books and a number of shorter and longer individual papers published in a variety of scientific and medical publications. She has also conducted frequent international lecture tours to present the results of her research to parents, health and medical professionals and anyone else who is interested. She has also provided a great number of expert witness reports for court cases relating to deaths and injuries caused by vaccines, such as so-called "shaken baby" syndrome.

by guerrilla girl on Aug. 25, 2013 at 12:04 AM
by Ruby Member on Aug. 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM
3 moms liked this

I feel for the kids whose parents choose to put them at risk... sad.

by Silver Member on Aug. 25, 2013 at 1:19 AM

How did you do that???

by Satan on Aug. 25, 2013 at 1:36 AM
1 mom liked this

Mobile Photo


by Destiny on Aug. 25, 2013 at 3:50 AM
4 moms liked this

I feel for the people that don't understand not everyone can handle vaccines. Sometimes the vaccines are a greater risk to their health than not getting them. If your kid is vaxed? No worries for you. 

by Angel on Aug. 25, 2013 at 6:25 AM
3 moms liked this
Quoting DestinyHLewis:

I feel for the people that don't understand not everyone can handle vaccines. Sometimes the vaccines are a greater risk to their health than not getting them. If your kid is vaxed? No worries for you. 

Vaccinations work best when everyone possible takes them. When a disease finds the unvaccinated child...disease mutation can and does occur. This means that now, even a vaccinated child is at risk. Not to mention the risk to those with compromised immune systems, such as cancer patients and people with autoimmune disorders. Not only can they get the disease from an unvaccinated can kill them. I have an autoimmune disorder. I had to cut off all contact with a friend's children (and eventually the friend, who was offended) because her kids were not vaccinated. I've had both chicken pox and mumps from them. I was done. And when they tell you chicken pox is a whole different disease as an adult? They are not kidding. It is awful. And yes, I had a very bad case of it as a child. And three more times as an adult. The friend got offended after her kids gave me the mumps...She knew they had it and invited me to her house for book club anyway. She still tells people there is no way I got it from her kids...because after all, I had been vaccinated! That means nothing to a person with a compromised immune system. Her unvaccinated kids could make me very ill. She got offended when I told her spending time with her kids was not worth getting sick, much less the massive medical bills.
by on Aug. 25, 2013 at 9:26 AM
Sounds scary.
Posted on CafeMom Mobile
Add your quick reply below:
You must be a member to reply to this post.
Join the Meeting Place for Moms!
Talk to other moms, share advice, and have fun!

(minimum 6 characters)