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Colin Powell On Republican Voting Restrictions: 'It's Going To Backfire'

Posted by on Aug. 26, 2013 at 1:42 AM
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BY BRYCE COVERT ON AUGUST 25, 2013 AT 11:26 AM

abc_tw_colin_powell_1_100530_mnOn Face the Nation this Sunday, Colin Powell, former Secretary of State under President George W. Bush, warned his fellow Republicans that the continuing push to restrict voting rights is going to “backfire” and harm the Republican Party:

These kinds of procedures that are being put in place to slow the process down, and make it likely that fewer Hispanics and African Americans might vote I think is going to backfire, because these people are going to come out and do what they have to do in order to vote and I encourage that.

Powell went on to describe just how damaging these laws may be as the country’s demographics shift:

Here’s what I say to my Republican friends: The country is becoming more diverse. Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans, African Americans are going to constitute a majority in a generation. You say you want to reach out, you say you want to have a new message, you say you want to see if you can bring some of these voters to the Republican side. This is not the way to do it. The way to do it is to make it easier to vote and then give them something to vote, they can believe it. It’s not enough to say just we have to have a new message. We have to have a substance to that new message.

Voting rights were an integral demand of the March on Washington 50 years ago, but the Republican Party has been pushing a variety of restrictions at the state level and are now emboldened by a Supreme Court ruling invalidating part of the Voting Rights Act (VRA). Powell remarked that these state laws “in some ways makes it a little bit harder to vote,” such as requiring ID, restricting voting hours, and making it harder for students to cast a ballot.

Since the Supreme Court decision that struck down the section of the VRA that forced states with histories of disenfranchisement to get clearance from the federal government on changes to voting, at least six states have renewed their efforts to pass voting restrictions, including voter ID measures, redrawing districts so that minority voting blocks could have their power weakened, and others. North Carolina became the first to enact a law, with a measure that some have described as “the worst voter suppression law” in the country. It requires strict voter ID to cast a ballot, reduces the number of early voting days by a week, eliminates same-day voter registration during early voting, and makes other severe changes. Powell previously warned that North Carolina’s law is the kind that “turns people away” from the Republican Party.

While proponents of these measures purport to be worried about rampant voter fraud, on Sunday Powell remarked, “Nothing substantiates that, there isn’t widespread abuse.” In fact, zero of the 17 suspected fraud cases in Boulder, CO were found to exist, and there have been many failures for those attempting to find evidence ofwidespread voter fraud. A person is 39 times more likely to be struck by lightning than to commit fraud.

Voting restrictions aren’t the only way Republicans are screwing up their effort to reach out to minority voters, however. They’ve voted to deport DREAMers, boycotted Spanish-language TV, argued for self-deportation, reacted poorly to the Trayvon Martin ruling, and used racially insensitive language, among other things.

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slashteddy
by Bronze Member on Aug. 26, 2013 at 1:42 AM

Bump

Goodwoman614
by Satan on Aug. 26, 2013 at 1:46 AM



Quoting slashteddy:

Bump

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DestinyHLewis
by Destiny on Aug. 26, 2013 at 1:46 AM
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I'm sorry, but I have zero problem with having strict voter ID requirements for everyone. 

slashteddy
by Bronze Member on Aug. 26, 2013 at 1:57 AM
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Voter ID laws are a problem, not a solution.


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The first thing that needs to be said historically about Jim Crow voting laws is that they have never been (to my knowledge) explicitly racist. Even at the height of segregation, no law ever said that black people could not vote for being black. Jim Crow has always been about finding “justifiable” means (albeit fantastically ludicrous and farcical ones) of rigging the voting pool to the advantage of the party in power. In the segregated south, these means included poll taxes (since it costs money to count votes) and civics and literacy tests (since a democracy requires educated citizens). These laws were then enforced selectively so that poor whites did not get tripped up by them. In our present sociopolitical environment, it is no longer possible to systematically disenfranchise an entire race at the level that could be accomplished in the Old South. But what the new voting laws can accomplish is to suppress enough of a percentage of voters to tip the balance in a close election.

—  Why you shouldn’t growl when people cry “Jim Crow” about NC’s new voting law


mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Aug. 26, 2013 at 2:45 AM
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Why? It keeps a lot of people from voting. And there's no evidence at all that there's any kind of voter fraud going on. 

Quoting DestinyHLewis:

I'm sorry, but I have zero problem with having strict voter ID requirements for everyone. 

mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Aug. 26, 2013 at 2:46 AM
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In Australia, you have to vote. If you don't you are fined. 

I want that law here. Everyone who is of age to vote should vote. Otherwise...fuck it. This isn't a democracy anyway. We suck at this "experiment". 

DestinyHLewis
by Destiny on Aug. 26, 2013 at 2:59 AM


Why does it keep one from voting? We have to have ID for just about last every last thing  we do in life. Why shouldn't something as important as voting require identification? 

Quoting mehamil1:

Why? It keeps a lot of people from voting. And there's no evidence at all that there's any kind of voter fraud going on. 

Quoting DestinyHLewis:

I'm sorry, but I have zero problem with having strict voter ID requirements for everyone. 



lga1965
by on Aug. 26, 2013 at 6:51 AM
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 In our state, once you have registered to vote, your name is on a LIST. WHen you go to your voting location, on Election Day  they check your name off the list. YOUR vote is the only one. After they check off your name, its done and you vote. We don't have to show ID because we already registered and were placed on a LIST. How hard is that to understand?A person who has no driver's license can go to the court house and get a picture ID to show, anyway, so it still isn't a problem when they go to REGISTER to vote. Voting Day you don't need an ID to get your ballot and vote.

SHeeeesh.

It is voter supresssion when a state doesn't have that kind of efficient procedure in place. North Carolina is overtly prejudiced.

Quoting DestinyHLewis:

 

Why does it keep one from voting? We have to have ID for just about last every last thing  we do in life. Why shouldn't something as important as voting require identification? 

Quoting mehamil1:

Why? It keeps a lot of people from voting. And there's no evidence at all that there's any kind of voter fraud going on. 

Quoting DestinyHLewis:

I'm sorry, but I have zero problem with having strict voter ID requirements for everyone. 

 

 

 

DestinyHLewis
by Destiny on Aug. 26, 2013 at 6:58 AM


So if you have to have an ID to register, why is it now difficult to bring said ID to voting day? When we open a bank account we have an ID, if we write a check, or use our card we are required to show ID each time after that. They  don't just say, well, you provided it to begin with, now we don't feel a need to verify your identity. You can check a name all day off a list, unless you can verify the identity of the person in front of you, there is no way to make sure the vote is legit. 

Still not seeing the issue. Anyone who is legal to vote has to have had an ID. no reason they can't bring it on Election Day. 

Quoting lga1965:

 In our state, once you have registered to vote, your name is on a LIST. WHen you go to your voting location, on Election Day  they check your name off the list. YOUR vote is the only one. After they check off your name, its done and you vote. We don't have to show ID because we already registered and were placed on a LIST. How hard is that to understand?A person who has no driver's license can go to the court house and get a picture ID to show, anyway, so it still isn't a problem when they go to REGISTER to vote. Voting Day you don't need an ID to get your ballot and vote.

SHeeeesh.

It is voter supresssion when a state doesn't have that kind of efficient procedure in place. North Carolina is overtly prejudiced.

Quoting DestinyHLewis:


Why does it keep one from voting? We have to have ID for just about last every last thing  we do in life. Why shouldn't something as important as voting require identification? 

Quoting mehamil1:

Why? It keeps a lot of people from voting. And there's no evidence at all that there's any kind of voter fraud going on. 

Quoting DestinyHLewis:

I'm sorry, but I have zero problem with having strict voter ID requirements for everyone. 



 



lga1965
by on Aug. 26, 2013 at 7:03 AM
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 Fine. But if a state uses this ID issue to keep minorities from casting a vote, it sucks. It really sucks. I am sorry but seems like you're okay with that.

Quoting DestinyHLewis:

 

So if you have to have an ID to register, why is it now difficult to bring said ID to voting day? When we open a bank account we have an ID, if we write a check, or use our card we are required to show ID each time after that. They  don't just say, well, you provided it to begin with, now we don't feel a need to verify your identity. You can check a name all day off a list, unless you can verify the identity of the person in front of you, there is no way to make sure the vote is legit. 

Still not seeing the issue. Anyone who is legal to vote has to have had an ID. no reason they can't bring it on Election Day. 

Quoting lga1965:

 In our state, once you have registered to vote, your name is on a LIST. WHen you go to your voting location, on Election Day  they check your name off the list. YOUR vote is the only one. After they check off your name, its done and you vote. We don't have to show ID because we already registered and were placed on a LIST. How hard is that to understand?A person who has no driver's license can go to the court house and get a picture ID to show, anyway, so it still isn't a problem when they go to REGISTER to vote. Voting Day you don't need an ID to get your ballot and vote.

SHeeeesh.

It is voter supresssion when a state doesn't have that kind of efficient procedure in place. North Carolina is overtly prejudiced.

Quoting DestinyHLewis:

 

Why does it keep one from voting? We have to have ID for just about last every last thing  we do in life. Why shouldn't something as important as voting require identification? 

Quoting mehamil1:

Why? It keeps a lot of people from voting. And there's no evidence at all that there's any kind of voter fraud going on. 

Quoting DestinyHLewis:

I'm sorry, but I have zero problem with having strict voter ID requirements for everyone. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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