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Another dead thug: Domino's pizza driver shoots, kills robber in West Melbourne

And before all the socially engineered outrage begins, this guy was a "Thug" with a criminal history. Another reason concealed carry and Self Defense Laws exist.

Self defense and no arrest, in Florida.

Domino's pizza driver shoots, kills robber in West Melbourne

Evidence suggests self-defense

Fredrick Kelly Jr.

Kelly

A 34-year-old man picked the wrong victim Friday night when police said he approached a pizza delivery driver with robbery in mind.

Just before midnight, Fredrick Kelly Jr., 34, of Melbourne was shot and killed after he threatened a Domino’s Pizza employee with a knife in a West Melbourne Days Inn parking lot, 4500 W. New Haven, according to the Brevard County Sheriff’s Office.

After Byron Park, 54, of Palm Bay made a delivery to the hotel and returned to his vehicle, he was confronted with a demand for money, according to a release.

Park responded by shooting Kelly once in the upper torso with a handgun. Authorities said Park had a weapons permit necessary to carry the handgun in his vehicle.

Saturday afternoon, investigators believed Park’s actions were justified to protect himself.

“Preliminary evidence at the scene points toward this being a self-defense situation,” said Maj. Tod Goodyear of the Brevard County Sheriff’s Office. “He was protecting his life. The guy had a deadly weapon and was going to kill him if he didn’t give his money up.”

The case remains under investigation pending an autopsy.

“We have to make sure the information that was provided to us and what we see at the scene is consistent with the autopsy and it all adds up,” Goodyear said.

In 2001, Kelly was sentenced to 10 years in prison for three counts of armed robbery and was released in 2009, according to the Florida Department of Corrections.

Investigators believe the pizza driver was a random target of convenience after fulfilling a legitimate delivery at the hotel.

“The people who ordered the pizza had nothing to do with it,” Goodyear said. “That was just a coincidence.”

Attempts on Saturday to learn more from Domino’s officials about the company’s policy on armed drivers were unsuccessul.


by on Aug. 29, 2013 at 2:18 PM
Replies (41-50):
Debmomto2girls
by Platinum Member on Aug. 29, 2013 at 3:18 PM

THis is a Wiki link which I normally do not use but here is a list of common terms related to mafia...I can think of a few more but never heard thug.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_Mafia-related_words

Quoting .OceanBlue.:

Wait.  Someone said "thug" is a racial slur?  Wow.  Mafia members are also called thugs, and aren't they mostly white?  

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 You missed the other post where people were saying "thug" Is a racial slur. That is why she has it in quotes.


Quoting SuzCahn:

 I don't see where Iga said anything about race?

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 WTF are you talking about.  Seriously turning this into race? I am worried about you.


Quoting lga1965:

 well this is really intelligent....not.

"Thug" again? And SYG being defended again?

I thought in the 21st century that people were more civilized but I guess not. Good grief, I am disgusted.



 





“No human race is superior; no religious faith is inferior. All collective judgments are wrong. Only racists make them” 
― Elie Wiesel

.OceanBlue.
by on Aug. 29, 2013 at 3:20 PM
3 moms liked this

Merriam-Webster defines "thug" as: "a brutal ruffian or assassin" and uses the below sentence as an example:

"The Mob boss regularly sent his thugs after people who were slow to pay their debts."

I don't see anything about it being a racial slur.  Oh wait.  That's because it's NOT a racial slur. 

Quoting Debmomto2girls:

I am mostly Italian. My mother is 100% Italian. I grew up around a lot of Italian people.  I have heard derrogatory "mafia" slurs my entire life and never ONCE have I heard the term "thug" used for a Mafia member.

Thug, especially the idiots who use it daily on this board, is normally used as a racial slur against  black people. The resident racist cowards on this board will claim that is not why they use it but it's bullshit. 

Quoting .OceanBlue.:

Wait.  Someone said "thug" is a racial slur?  Wow.  Mafia members are also called thugs, and aren't they mostly white?  

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 You missed the other post where people were saying "thug" Is a racial slur. That is why she has it in quotes.


Quoting SuzCahn:

 I don't see where Iga said anything about race?

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 WTF are you talking about.  Seriously turning this into race? I am worried about you.


Quoting lga1965:

 well this is really intelligent....not.

"Thug" again? And SYG being defended again?

I thought in the 21st century that people were more civilized but I guess not. Good grief, I am disgusted.



 






numbr1wmn
by Nikki on Aug. 29, 2013 at 3:20 PM

 

by Ruby Member on Aug. 26, 2013 at 11:14 PM
Yes and "panties in a twist".Ugh.

Thugs is the new buzz word. Articles about blacks committing crimes is the newest fad posted by those who are motivated to prove over and over that blacks....including Trayvon Martin.....are all thugs.
They're obsessed.


Quoting lizzielouaf:

I hate the word thug. I really do. It's up there with panties and moist...but for different reasons.
numbr1wmn
by Nikki on Aug. 29, 2013 at 3:21 PM
1 mom liked this

From the other post

Debmomto2girls
by Platinum Member on Aug. 29, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Okay...keep living in that bubble. Have fun with it.

Quoting .OceanBlue.:

Merriam-Webster defines "thug" as: "a brutal ruffian or assassin" and uses the below sentence as an example:

"The Mob boss regularly sent his thugs after people who were slow to pay their debts."

I don't see anything about it being a racial slur.  Oh wait.  That's because it's NOT a racial slur. 

Quoting Debmomto2girls:

I am mostly Italian. My mother is 100% Italian. I grew up around a lot of Italian people.  I have heard derrogatory "mafia" slurs my entire life and never ONCE have I heard the term "thug" used for a Mafia member.

Thug, especially the idiots who use it daily on this board, is normally used as a racial slur against  black people. The resident racist cowards on this board will claim that is not why they use it but it's bullshit. 

Quoting .OceanBlue.:

Wait.  Someone said "thug" is a racial slur?  Wow.  Mafia members are also called thugs, and aren't they mostly white?  

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 You missed the other post where people were saying "thug" Is a racial slur. That is why she has it in quotes.


Quoting SuzCahn:

 I don't see where Iga said anything about race?

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 WTF are you talking about.  Seriously turning this into race? I am worried about you.


Quoting lga1965:

 well this is really intelligent....not.

"Thug" again? And SYG being defended again?

I thought in the 21st century that people were more civilized but I guess not. Good grief, I am disgusted.



 







“No human race is superior; no religious faith is inferior. All collective judgments are wrong. Only racists make them” 
― Elie Wiesel

Debmomto2girls
by Platinum Member on Aug. 29, 2013 at 3:23 PM
1 mom liked this

But...they aren't racists..lol!

Quoting numbr1wmn:


by Ruby Member on Aug. 26, 2013 at 11:14 PM
Yes and "panties in a twist".Ugh.

Thugs is the new buzz word. Articles about blacks committing crimes is the newest fad posted by those who are motivated to prove over and over that blacks....including Trayvon Martin.....are all thugs.
They're obsessed.


Quoting lizzielouaf:

I hate the word thug. I really do. It's up there with panties and moist...but for different reasons.


“No human race is superior; no religious faith is inferior. All collective judgments are wrong. Only racists make them” 
― Elie Wiesel

.OceanBlue.
by on Aug. 29, 2013 at 3:24 PM
1 mom liked this

Look it up.  I've even saved you the extra step by providing you with a link. 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thug

Quoting Debmomto2girls:

Okay...keep living in that bubble. Have fun with it.

Quoting .OceanBlue.:

Merriam-Webster defines "thug" as: "a brutal ruffian or assassin" and uses the below sentence as an example:

"The Mob boss regularly sent his thugs after people who were slow to pay their debts."

I don't see anything about it being a racial slur.  Oh wait.  That's because it's NOT a racial slur. 

Quoting Debmomto2girls:

I am mostly Italian. My mother is 100% Italian. I grew up around a lot of Italian people.  I have heard derrogatory "mafia" slurs my entire life and never ONCE have I heard the term "thug" used for a Mafia member.

Thug, especially the idiots who use it daily on this board, is normally used as a racial slur against  black people. The resident racist cowards on this board will claim that is not why they use it but it's bullshit. 

Quoting .OceanBlue.:

Wait.  Someone said "thug" is a racial slur?  Wow.  Mafia members are also called thugs, and aren't they mostly white?  

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 You missed the other post where people were saying "thug" Is a racial slur. That is why she has it in quotes.


Quoting SuzCahn:

 I don't see where Iga said anything about race?

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 WTF are you talking about.  Seriously turning this into race? I am worried about you.


Quoting lga1965:

 well this is really intelligent....not.

"Thug" again? And SYG being defended again?

I thought in the 21st century that people were more civilized but I guess not. Good grief, I am disgusted.



 








numbr1wmn
by Nikki on Aug. 29, 2013 at 3:24 PM

 

C'mon Iga and others I want to see the reply.

Quoting Debmomto2girls:

But...they aren't racists..lol!

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 

by Ruby Member on Aug. 26, 2013 at 11:14 PM
Yes and "panties in a twist".Ugh.

Thugs is the new buzz word. Articles about blacks committing crimes is the newest fad posted by those who are motivated to prove over and over that blacks....including Trayvon Martin.....are all thugs.
They're obsessed.


Quoting lizzielouaf:

I hate the word thug. I really do. It's up there with panties and moist...but for different reasons.



 

Debmomto2girls
by Platinum Member on Aug. 29, 2013 at 3:26 PM

I don't give a shit what the dictionary says.  I took an organized crime class in college, I have had people make ASSumptions about me being Italian and must have a mobster in my family.  Thugs is NOT a term people use in relation to roganized crime. Soldier, Associate, "friend", etc are common terms not thug.

But, let the dictionary be your claim to fame.

Quoting .OceanBlue.:

Look it up.  I've even saved you the extra step by providing you with a link. 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thug

Quoting Debmomto2girls:

Okay...keep living in that bubble. Have fun with it.

Quoting .OceanBlue.:

Merriam-Webster defines "thug" as: "a brutal ruffian or assassin" and uses the below sentence as an example:

"The Mob boss regularly sent his thugs after people who were slow to pay their debts."

I don't see anything about it being a racial slur.  Oh wait.  That's because it's NOT a racial slur. 

Quoting Debmomto2girls:

I am mostly Italian. My mother is 100% Italian. I grew up around a lot of Italian people.  I have heard derrogatory "mafia" slurs my entire life and never ONCE have I heard the term "thug" used for a Mafia member.

Thug, especially the idiots who use it daily on this board, is normally used as a racial slur against  black people. The resident racist cowards on this board will claim that is not why they use it but it's bullshit. 

Quoting .OceanBlue.:

Wait.  Someone said "thug" is a racial slur?  Wow.  Mafia members are also called thugs, and aren't they mostly white?  

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 You missed the other post where people were saying "thug" Is a racial slur. That is why she has it in quotes.


Quoting SuzCahn:

 I don't see where Iga said anything about race?

Quoting numbr1wmn:

 WTF are you talking about.  Seriously turning this into race? I am worried about you.


Quoting lga1965:

 well this is really intelligent....not.

"Thug" again? And SYG being defended again?

I thought in the 21st century that people were more civilized but I guess not. Good grief, I am disgusted.



 









“No human race is superior; no religious faith is inferior. All collective judgments are wrong. Only racists make them” 
― Elie Wiesel

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