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House passes spending bill to defund Obamacare

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House Republicans passed their stopgap funding bill Friday to keep government open while terminating the new health care law, setting up a final showdown next week with Senate Democrats and President Obama who have firmly rejected the GOP approach.

The 230-189 vote, which split almost exactly along party lines, is the precursor to the big action next week, when the Democratic majority in the Senate is expected to strip out the health care provisions and send the bill back to the House — where Republicans will have to decide whether they can accept it at that point.



All sides are racing to beat a Sept. 30 deadline, which is when current funding for the federal government runs out. The new measure would fund the government through Dec. 15, essentially at last year’s levels, and would leave the budget sequester cuts in place.

But Republicans on Friday also attached two amendments to the final bill — one to direct how government spending is prioritized in the event the Treasury Department bumps up against its borrowing limit in the coming weeks, and another that strips out funding for President Obama’s signature Affordable Care Act, which would effectively stop its implementation.

“The American people don’t want the government shut down, and they don’t want Obamacare,” said House Speaker John A. Boehner, who rallied with fellow Republicans after the vote in a show of unity that seemed designed to quell speculation about a rebellion within the House Republican Conference.

Republicans said the move was designed to put some Democratic senators on the spot. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor named several who are up for re-election next year, including Louisiana Sen. Mary Landrieu and Alaska Sen. Mark Begich.

Democrats said the bill was an outrage that exposed Republicans’ true intention of trying to force a government shutdown.

“It is a wolf in wolf’s clothing,” said Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat. “Either you don’t know what you’re doing or this is one of the most intentional acts of brutality you’ve cooked up.”



Rep. Nita Lowey, the top Democrat on the House spending committee, said limiting government funding now would immediate consequences, such as preventing federal authorities from being able to help out as Colorado recovers from devastating floods.

Democrats urged the GOP to negotiate with them to raise taxes in order to spend more.

Republicans countered that if they’d wanted to shut down government, they wouldn’t have brought any bill to the floor.

“We are pragmatists. We know we have to pass bills to fund government. Thus this bill,” said House Appropriations Committee Chairman Hal Rogers, Kentucky Republican.

by on Sep. 20, 2013 at 12:46 PM
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Sisteract
by Whoopie on Sep. 20, 2013 at 8:41 PM


Quoting cjsbmom:

They are wasting time, because this will not pass in the Senate. But then again, the House GOP seems to have the art of wasting taxpayer time and money down to a science these days.....

They do control the purse string, so, yes, it does primarily rest on their shoulders.

D-Town
by Silver Member on Sep. 20, 2013 at 10:07 PM
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That is exactly why I support the republicans in this. If the CHIP program is a failing program dumping more money into it will not save it. It wastes money to extend a failing program. And it takes away from other programs that are just as important. Taxes were raised A LOT in this bill but it's all being spent.


In order to get the economy back on track, taxes need to be raised and funding to some programs are going to have to be cut. Regardless if it's a good program or not. If it's failing, it's failing. This is what the republicans are talking about.


Quoting cjsbmom:

The CHIP program was going bankrupt. The ACA passing made it possible for federal funding to be used to keep it operational. If the ACA is repealed, CHIP will be canceled. 

Quoting D-Town:

The CHIP program was around before this bill.



Quoting aimesnyc:

If it gets defunded, you do realize that there are repurcussions,

right?  For example, millions of children that are insured through CHIP

will be affected: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/gop-defund-chip_n_3955411.html

My son is covered by CHIP.  There are many other kids covered by CHIP.  We weren't made aware that it was initially even set to expire Oct 1st.  I do NOT want ACA to be defunded.  I am sure there are other parents that feel the same.



Quoting D-Town:

It isn't very often I agree with the Republican Party but I think they are spot on in this. The Dena want to raise taxes and increase spending. We will never pull ahead with that philosophy. We need to cut some government spending with all these tax increases that have been passed. It only makes sense to defund the programs that aren't working as planned and the general populace doesn't want.






Raintree
by Ruby Member on Sep. 20, 2013 at 10:15 PM
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Quoting Della529:

 Thanks to the "Tea" party whose pendulum swung so far right it's now upside-down.

They're just stuck there. Dangling.

AtiFreeFalls
by Silver Member on Sep. 20, 2013 at 10:34 PM
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 I wish he would go cry somewhere for the rest of his life and trouble the world no more lol.

Quoting MomTiara19:

 

joyfree
by Silver Member on Sep. 20, 2013 at 10:42 PM
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Fushithedruid
by Member on Sep. 20, 2013 at 10:42 PM

lets see how far it gets in the senate, let alone reach their boss's desk. SMDH, they never learn do they?

AtiFreeFalls
by Silver Member on Sep. 20, 2013 at 10:43 PM
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 So lets let corporate bailouts and tax loopholes fail.  Not programs that help kids get the healthcare they need.  Do you know how far behind my kids were on vaccines before I got them on CHIP?  How long it had been since their last checkup?  How terrified I was of a broken arm or serious illness? 

Million-and-billion-aires don't need any more fucking money.  Banks who screwed people out of money to line their executives' pockets don't need any more fucking money.  I feel like we are beating our heads against a table, because there is a very real, very clear answer to all these problems and no one wants to see it or hear it because money is controlling our government.  It is no longer of the people by the people it is of millionaires for millionaires and the rest of us get ground into dust.  We're so far away from the game they're playing most of us can't even see it.

Quoting D-Town:

That is exactly why I support the republicans in this. If the CHIP program is a failing program dumping more money into it will not save it. It wastes money to extend a failing program. And it takes away from other programs that are just as important. Taxes were raised A LOT in this bill but it's all being spent.


In order to get the economy back on track, taxes need to be raised and funding to some programs are going to have to be cut. Regardless if it's a good program or not. If it's failing, it's failing. This is what the republicans are talking about.


Quoting cjsbmom:

The CHIP program was going bankrupt. The ACA passing made it possible for federal funding to be used to keep it operational. If the ACA is repealed, CHIP will be canceled. 

Quoting D-Town:

The CHIP program was around before this bill.



Quoting aimesnyc:

If it gets defunded, you do realize that there are repurcussions,

right?  For example, millions of children that are insured through CHIP

will be affected: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/gop-defund-chip_n_3955411.html

My son is covered by CHIP.  There are many other kids covered by CHIP.  We weren't made aware that it was initially even set to expire Oct 1st.  I do NOT want ACA to be defunded.  I am sure there are other parents that feel the same.



Quoting D-Town:

It isn't very often I agree with the Republican Party but I think they are spot on in this. The Dena want to raise taxes and increase spending. We will never pull ahead with that philosophy. We need to cut some government spending with all these tax increases that have been passed. It only makes sense to defund the programs that aren't working as planned and the general populace doesn't want.

 



 


 

Fushithedruid
by Member on Sep. 20, 2013 at 10:44 PM
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Quoting RandRMomma:

I agree. I'm voting third party in 2014.

Quoting Sisteract:

Yep-

The Rs are going to rail on about this as loudly as Ds rail about gun control- and while they distract us with one hand, they'll be fleecing us with the other- 

Such a waste of time. I'd like to fire the entire lot of them. 2014 is just around the corner.

Quoting RandRMomma:

Republicans are wasting time. They know that the Senate will not pass the bill they've sent over to them. Instead of coming up with a reasonable solution that everyone can agree on, they're playing party politics. What a shame.




count me in. ugh, between the two parties, what's the big difference? there really isn't any.

Fushithedruid
by Member on Sep. 20, 2013 at 10:45 PM



Quoting MsDenuninani:

Including Boehner?  


Quoting candlegal:

I honestly don't think it will work.   We have too many wimpy republicans that are going to cave.

Quoting MsDenuninani:

 It springs eternal, doesn't it?


Quoting candlegal:

We can always hope.

Quoting MsDenuninani:

This is about 2014.

There are four democratic senators from red states up for re-election in 2014.  Essentially, they want to tie an Obamacare-shaped noose around their necks; force them to either vote to defund it, or not vote and have to defend it in what will be a very tough election for them.  

Just might work, too.








oh goddess, i hope he goes soon. he flip-flops so damn much, i don't know which party he belongs to anymore. lol

Goodwoman614
by Satan on Sep. 20, 2013 at 11:18 PM
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Quoting Raintree:


Quoting Della529:

 Thanks to the "Tea" party whose pendulum swung so far right it's now upside-down.

They're just stuck there. Dangling.

Tea baggers. Dangling.

Lol!


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