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Starbucks Asks Gun Owners To Leave Guns At Home.

Posted by on Sep. 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM
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 My question to you all (especially if you carry a gun) - would you still bring your gun into Starbucks? 

Gun Owners Who Pack in Public Are No Longer Welcome in Starbucks

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If you're like me, you have probably spent more than one sleepless night pacing the floor, shaking your head, and crying "When? When will Starbucks finally take a stand on the gun control issue?!" Well, friends, our moment is here. As you almost certainly know, Starbucks has locations everywhere, including those states with "open carry" laws (laws that permit private citizens to carry their guns around unconcealed). Being a live-and-let-live sort of place, Starbucks has had no policies prohibiting guns from its stores in states where concealed or open carry is legal. In some of those states, gun owners have recently taken to arming themselves and holding pro-gun meet-ups (called "Starbucks Appreciation Days") at various Starbucks locations-including, obnoxiously, an attempt to hold one at the Starbucks in Newtown, Conn. (Starbucks corporate officials ultimately decided to close the Newtown store on the day the rally was scheduled.)

 

Starbucks, being a billion-dollar corporation, doesn't really care if you're a gun guy or a peacenik, just as long as you have money to spend on Frappuccinos, scones, and Norah Jones CDs. But these impromptu gun rallies apparently unnerved a lot of Starbucks customers, and this, in turn, unnerved Starbucks. So CEO Howard Schultz issued a statement earlier this week-it appeared as a full-page ad in four major American newspapers Thursday-announcing that Starbucks not only wants these gun rallies out of its stores, it wants guns out of its stores entirely. Here's Schultz:

 

[T]oday we are respectfully requesting that customers no longer bring firearms into our stores or outdoor seating areas -- even in states where "open carry" is permitted -- unless they are authorized law enforcement personnel.

Oh yeah? you might say, if you are the sort of contentious person who likes to talk back to written statements. Suppose I bring my gun into Starbucks anyway? What're you going to do about it, Schultz? Well, nothing. Nobody's going to stop you if you're intent on packing heat in Starbucks-because, as Schultz noted, "this is a request and not an outright ban." Why so mealy-mouthed?

 

Because we want to give responsible gun owners the chance to respect our request -- and also because enforcing a ban would potentially require our partners to confront armed customers, and that is not a role I am comfortable asking Starbucks partners to take on.

You can applaud Starbucks for taking a principled stand here, but I think it's more likely that executives did some calculations, realized that they stood to lose more money by staying silent than by taking a stand, and issued this statement with the bottom line in mind. Will this gentle, pleading statement actually dissuade the open-carry contingent from congregating in Starbucks locations? Well, if you deliberately bring your gun into Starbucks after being asked not to, you risk looking like a jerk. Of course, if you're the sort of person who thought it was a good idea to hold a gun rally at the Newtown Starbucks in the first place, you probably don't care very much about looking like a jerk. But at least Starbucks has made its point in writing, and now gun owners can no longer say they have the chain's tacit approval to bring guns into their stores.

This will theoretically reassure Starbucks' Volvo-driving target clientele that the stores are once again safe to patronize, which is probably the point. And it offers an opportunity for one of Starbucks' competitors to court the business of those gun-owning coffee drinkers whom Schultz may have alienated with this statement. America Guns on Dunkin' sort of has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

 My question to you all -

by on Sep. 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM
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codfish
by Bronze Member on Sep. 20, 2013 at 3:03 PM
I'm not a Starbucks fan so I could care less.
tanyainmizzou
by on Sep. 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Many will still carry in there

A greater number will simply buy coffee elsewhere.

AlekD
by Gold Member on Sep. 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM
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Starbucks is a huge coropration and they make their decisions based on how much they stand to profit from them. I'm not going to applaud them for that.

That said, I just do not understand the gun people who feel the need to being a gun to buy a freaking coffee. I mean, really. 

                      

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JoshRachelsMAMA
by JRM on Sep. 20, 2013 at 3:07 PM
I do. Everyday.
Sisteract
by Whoopie on Sep. 20, 2013 at 3:08 PM
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Quoting tanyainmizzou:

Many will still carry in there

A greater number will simply buy coffee elsewhere.

Yep.

Any sane person could do the basic math and figure out that SBs is a rip off compared what you can brew yourself.

JoshRachelsMAMA
by JRM on Sep. 20, 2013 at 3:08 PM
Maybe they're getting their coffee on the way to someplace else. I mean, really.

Quoting AlekD:

Starbucks is a huge coropration and they make their decisions based on how much they stand to profit from them. I'm not going to applaud them for that.

That said, I just do not understand the gun people who feel the need to being a gun to buy a freaking coffee. I mean, really. 

katy_kay08
by on Sep. 20, 2013 at 3:09 PM
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We had a guy come into a local coffee shop and shoot four cops dead a few years back.  I can understand why people would feel nervous about seeing random strangers with a gun strapped to the side.  

tanyainmizzou
by on Sep. 20, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Because they don't want to leave it in the car?

They rode a bicycle there?

They want to?

Quoting AlekD:

Starbucks is a huge coropration and they make their decisions based on how much they stand to profit from them. I'm not going to applaud them for that.

That said, I just do not understand the gun people who feel the need to being a gun to buy a freaking coffee. I mean, really. 


Luvnlogic
by Silver Member on Sep. 20, 2013 at 3:09 PM
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Seems like a nice, non-confrontational cop out on the issue. Well-played Star$$. :)
Sisteract
by Whoopie on Sep. 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM


Quoting katy_kay08:

We had a guy come into a local coffee shop and shoot four cops dead a few years back.  I can understand why people would feel nervous about seeing random strangers with a gun strapped to the side.  

Naw- all these people are expert marks persons- every.single.damned.one.of.them- 

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