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Liberals say bring the pain

Posted by on Oct. 9, 2013 at 2:22 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/09/liberals-tell-obama-to-bring-pain/

LIBERALS TELL OBAMA: BRING THE PAIN - President Obama's political base is getting worried as pressure builds on him to abandon his "no negotiations" stance over the partial federal shutdown and looming debt-limit breach. The Pentagon decision to suspend death benefits for families of troops killed in Afghanistan is prompting outrage over the Obama administration's handling of the partial shutdown. Republicans continue to pass legislation that would restore full funding for essential programs, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid continues his blockade and the president has promised vetoes of several mini-spending bills. Obama told reporters Tuesday that he would not allow emergency funding because he wanted to keep the "political heat" on Republicans. But Americans are unlikely to tolerate such gamesmanship where war widows are involved.

["This is an on-purpose, in-your-face, middle finger...to military families." - former Marine combat veteran, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., to Megyn Kelly on "The Kelly File" | Watch Fox: Hunter is scheduled to appear in the noon ET hour today.]

A path takes shape - Despite more tough talk on Tuesday, the president also opened the door for a short-term increase in the debt limit to provide time for negotiations. While House Speaker John Boehner rebuffed Obama's demand for what the speaker called "unconditional surrender," a path around the current impasse is  starting to take shape. A move earlier in the day by House Republicans to create a new committee to hash out budget disputes with Senate Democrats suggests that something like the 2011 "supercommittee" that resulted in current caps on spending, known as "sequestration." But while Obama and Boehner were shadowboxing, Democrats were growing concerned, but for different reasons.

Ed Henry Wants to Know - "Joe Manchin of West Virginia on Tuesday became the first Senate Democrat to say the president should negotiate over the debt ceiling to get a broader budget deal. Was it an aberration, or is Arkansas' Mark Pryor next?"

["People may be talking about no negotiation. You've got to negotiate. That's what we're here to do." - Sen. Joe Manchin, ­D-W.Va, to reporters Tuesday]

Left wants cliff dive NOW - While moderate Democrats are talking compromise, the president's liberal base is calling for drastic measures. The New Republic's Noam Scheiber lays out the liberal position: That Obama should reject the idea of a short-term increase in the debt limit as a gateway to further negotiations. The reason, echoed across the left side of the Internet and on liberal news outlets, is to speed the destruction of the GOP: "The sooner we have the final debt ceiling showdown, the fewer opportunities Boehner has to back himself further into a corner from which he may never emerge," he wrote. Or, as WaPo's Ruth Marcus put it: "Better to edge up to, or even leap off, the cliff of default disaster now than to be saddled with it forevermore."

[Watch Fox: Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., appears in the 9 a.m. ET hour]

Senate to go ‘nuclear' over debt - Liberal Democrats are pressuring Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to take the unprecedented step of changing Senate rules and invoking the "nuclear option" that would end the 60-vote threshold for Senate legislation if Republicans refuse to allow a vote for a one-year increase in the federal borrowing limit, Politico reports. Liberal senators have already reportedly forced Reid to banish dealmaker Vice President Joe Biden from the process to prevent concessions. It's not clear that there would be the 51 Democratic votes needed to blow up Senate procedure, especially given calls from Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., for negotiations, but it's a sure sign that the left is in an uproar.

Ryan offers to spurn sequester for entitlement fix - House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis, in a WSJ OpEd: "We could provide relief from the discretionary spending levels in the Budget Control Act in exchange for structural reforms to entitlement programs."

[Noonan: "[W]hat all this means is that Republicans, who hate big government, are fighting to keep it open, and Democrats, who love big government, are fighting to keep it closed. Strange."]

FOREIGN AID UNDER SCRUTINY AMID SHUTDOWN - The White House denied reports that the administration plans to cut all military aid to Egypt following a coup that deposed the Islamist government that took power in a U.S.-backed revolution. "The reports that we are halting all military assistance to Egypt are false," said National Security Council spokesperson Caitlin Hayden, in a statement. But the WSJ reports that President Obama is set to suspend most financial assistance to Egypt, with an announcement expected as early as Friday.  

BAIER TRACKS: OUTSIDE GAME..."People are obviously seeing how much traction Gov. Chris Christie, R-N.J., is getting from talking about Washington's shutdown/debt ceiling standoff. On the eve of the shutdown Christie, in his trademark blunt style, said he'd lock Washington's leaders into a room at the White House until they came up with an answer.
 

Anyone OUTSIDE Washington picks up some points in this heavily ANTI-Washington moment (for the record, there are many ANTI-Washington moments - this one just happens to be more intense). Here is another potential 2016 Republican hopeful breaking to the outside: Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, R-Wis., in an OpEd in today's Washington Post: ‘What Wisconsin can teach Washington.'

Walker has a compelling story and probably realizes, in this environment, he should be getting it out there." - Bret Baier

PUMP IT UP: YELLEN TO GET FED NOD - WSJ: "President Barack Obama will nominate Janet Yellen to run the Federal Reserve, calling on the central bank's second in command to become the world's most powerful economic policy maker after months of sometimes bitter debate about Chairman Ben Bernanke's successor... Yellen's nomination would mean the Fed is unlikely to make any unusual lurches in its easy-money policies in the near term."

[WSJ: Five Things You Need to Know about Janet Yellen]

"I voted against Vice Chairman Yellen's original nomination to the Fed in 2010 because of her dovish views on monetary policy."-Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., talking to Washington Examiner

HOUSE HEARINGS HOUND OBAMACARE - Twin House hearings today on President Obama's signature health law:

-The Oversight Committee on how the IRS will enforce health-insurance fines of $45 billion from individuals and $140 billion from employers over the next decade.

-The Small Business Committee considers how ObamaCare's 30-hour a week definition of full-time employment affects small businesses.

[Watch Fox: Rep. Darell Issa, R-Calif., head of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, appears in the 9 a.m. ET hour]

Pro-lifers seek abortion coverage disclosure - Rep. Chris Smith, R-N.J., will unveil the "Abortion Insurance Full Disclosure Act" requiring transparent disclosure of abortion coverage for each plan offered on an ObamaCare exchange.

[WaPo looks at how early warnings did not prevent failure for ObamaCare's online portal.]

BENGHAZI SUSPECT BOLTED? - NYT: "The Libyan government in recent weeks tacitly approved two American commando operations in its country, according to senior American officials, one to capture a senior militant from Al Qaeda and another to seize a militia leader suspected of carrying out the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks on the United States diplomatic mission in Benghazi... While American officials expected that the Libyan government would claim that it had known nothing about the operation, news of the raid has raised concerns that the suspect in the Benghazi attacks, Ahmed Abu Khattala, has now been tipped off that the United States has the ability to conduct an operation in Libya."

‘Imperfect intelligence' scuttled Somalia raid - American officials told the NYT  that weekend mission to capture Abdikadir Mohamed Abdikadir, accused of plotting Kenyan terror attacks, "quickly became even more difficult when Navy SEALs discovered many more civilians than they had expected, making for the kind of ‘imperfect intelligence' that ended up scuttling the mission."  Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., slammed the Pentagon's failure to capture Abdulkadir during a Tuesday Senate hearing saying, "The fact is that it was an intelligence failure there, otherwise the mission would have been completed."

OBAMA COURTS KRAUTHAMMER - Breitbart: President Obama reportedly held an off-the-record White House meeting Tuesday with Charles Krauthammer and other conservative journalists, including Washington Examiner's Byron York, WSJ's Paul Gigot, National Review Online's Robert Costa and columnist Kathleen Parker.

WITH YOUR SECOND CUP OF COFFEE...John Stossel discusses the lessons from fiscal drama in Washington for Fox News Opinion in Shutdown Theater: "If the public starts noticing that life goes on as usual without all 3.4 million federal workers, we might get dangerous ideas, like doing without so much government. Politicians don't want that."

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candlegal
by Judy on Oct. 9, 2013 at 3:14 PM
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I agree with this.  He has been doing that since he has been President.  \\


We do need to shrink the size of the federal government.   The feds should not be the number one employer of Americans.   We need to get rid of a couple of million federal employees.


"This is an on-purpose, in-your-face, middle finger...to military families." - former Marine combat veteran, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., to Megyn Kelly on "The Kelly File"

TranquilMind
by Platinum Member on Oct. 9, 2013 at 3:22 PM
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 Starting at the very top and working our way downward.

Quoting candlegal:

I agree with this.  He has been doing that since he has been President.  \\

 

We do need to shrink the size of the federal government.   The feds should not be the number one employer of Americans.   We need to get rid of a couple of million federal employees.


"This is an on-purpose, in-your-face, middle finger...to military families." - former Marine combat veteran, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., to Megyn Kelly on "The Kelly File"

 

candlegal
by Judy on Oct. 9, 2013 at 3:26 PM
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You betcha.   Still trying to figure out why Michelle needs over 20 peopl in her personal staff.  I see they did no belt tightening when Obama told the rest of us to.

Quoting TranquilMind:

 Starting at the very top and working our way downward.

Quoting candlegal:

I agree with this.  He has been doing that since he has been President.  \\


We do need to shrink the size of the federal government.   The feds should not be the number one employer of Americans.   We need to get rid of a couple of million federal employees.


"This is an on-purpose, in-your-face, middle finger...to military families." - former Marine combat veteran, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., to Megyn Kelly on "The Kelly File"

 


TranquilMind
by Platinum Member on Oct. 9, 2013 at 3:28 PM
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 Apparently, she is VERRRRRRRRY Important. 

She also needs several vacations a year in expensive digs too, not just Camp David. 

Quoting candlegal:

You betcha.   Still trying to figure out why Michelle needs over 20 peopl in her personal staff.  I see they did no belt tightening when Obama told the rest of us to.

Quoting TranquilMind:

 Starting at the very top and working our way downward.

Quoting candlegal:

I agree with this.  He has been doing that since he has been President.  \\

 

We do need to shrink the size of the federal government.   The feds should not be the number one employer of Americans.   We need to get rid of a couple of million federal employees.


"This is an on-purpose, in-your-face, middle finger...to military families." - former Marine combat veteran, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., to Megyn Kelly on "The Kelly File"

 


 

PrimmednPunked
by Bronze Member on Oct. 9, 2013 at 3:37 PM

The government definitely needs to shrink.  Less waste through federal contracts and unneeded federal jobs.  I think a temporary job should be created where a bipartisan person is hired to go through the budget line by line, highlighting the unneeded things in the budget.  Whatever he/she highlights is what is thrown out of the budget, never to be seen again.

candlegal
by Judy on Oct. 9, 2013 at 5:22 PM

True, we wouldn't want someone as important as her having to give anything up.   She is already making a huge sacrifice being married to Barrack.   We shouldn't expect her to sacrifice anything else.

Quoting TranquilMind:

 Apparently, she is VERRRRRRRRY Important. 

She also needs several vacations a year in expensive digs too, not just Camp David. 

Quoting candlegal:

You betcha.   Still trying to figure out why Michelle needs over 20 peopl in her personal staff.  I see they did no belt tightening when Obama told the rest of us to.

Quoting TranquilMind:

 Starting at the very top and working our way downward.

Quoting candlegal:

I agree with this.  He has been doing that since he has been President.  \\


We do need to shrink the size of the federal government.   The feds should not be the number one employer of Americans.   We need to get rid of a couple of million federal employees.


"This is an on-purpose, in-your-face, middle finger...to military families." - former Marine combat veteran, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., to Megyn Kelly on "The Kelly File"

 


 


Sekirei
by Sevrsaxhtharxxa on Oct. 9, 2013 at 5:26 PM
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i say fire all of them and start over. :3

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Oct. 9, 2013 at 5:29 PM

 She has the same size staff as Mrs Reagan, Mrs Bush, Mrs Clinton....

Why did THEY need that many?

Quoting candlegal:

You betcha.   Still trying to figure out why Michelle needs over 20 peopl in her personal staff.  I see they did no belt tightening when Obama told the rest of us to.

Quoting TranquilMind:

 Starting at the very top and working our way downward.

Quoting candlegal:

I agree with this.  He has been doing that since he has been President.  \\

 

We do need to shrink the size of the federal government.   The feds should not be the number one employer of Americans.   We need to get rid of a couple of million federal employees.


"This is an on-purpose, in-your-face, middle finger...to military families." - former Marine combat veteran, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., to Megyn Kelly on "The Kelly File"

 


 

furbabymum
by on Oct. 9, 2013 at 5:35 PM

 Everything I read just confirms that everyone is an idiot to me.

Kate_Momof3
by Silver Member on Oct. 9, 2013 at 5:41 PM

 lol. Perfect.

Quoting furbabymum:

 Everything I read just confirms that everyone is an idiot to me.

 

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