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This one is going to hurt.......

Posted by on Oct. 27, 2013 at 11:32 AM
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Obama knew of NSA spying on Merkel and approved it, report says

Published October 27, 2013
FoxNews.com
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June 19, 2013: In this file picture US President Barack Obama speaks during a press conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, right, at the Chancellery in Berlin.AP

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President Barack Obama knew of the organization's spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel - and approved of the efforts, a National Security Agency official has reportedly told a German newspaper.

 

The Economic Times writes the "high-ranking" NSA official spoke to Bild am Sonntag on the condition of anonymity, saying the president, "not only did not stop the operation, but he also ordered it to continue."

The Economic Times also reports the official told Bild am Sonntag that Obama did not trust Merkel, wanted to know everything about her, and thus ordered the NSA to prepare a dossier on the politician.

The account could mean difficulties for the White House, given another report claiming Obama told Merkel during a telephone conversation last Wednesday he was not aware of the NSA's spying.

The Economic Times cited Frankfuter Allgemeine Zeitung in writing that when Merkel called Obama last week to alternately complain -- and get an explanation -- about the NSA surveillance, the president assured her he wasn't aware of the campaign regarding her, and would have halted it, had he known.

The unnamed NSA official's allegations delve deeper into a Saturday report, published by the German magazine Der Spiegel, claiming the U.S. spy agency has monitored Merkel's phone since 2002, or even before she rose to her country's chief executive position and was only an opposition leader.

The revelations follow earlier reports of the NSA monitoring phone calls made by French and German citizens, an account prompting both nations' foreign ministries to summon the respective American ambassadors to each country for an explanation.  Much -- if not all -- of the reporting on the alleged spying scandal stems from documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward J. Snowden.

According to the Associated Press, Interior Minister Hans-Peter Friedrich was quoted Sunday as telling newspaper Bild am Sonntag he wants "complete information on all accusations" and that "if the Americans intercepted cellphones in Germany, they broke German law on German soil." He added wiretapping is a crime and "those responsible must be held accountable."

The Der Spiegel report also alleges the German leader's mobile phone number had been part of a special surveillance list used by the NSA as late as this past June.  Der Spiegel writes the nature of the alleged monitoring isn't clear, or whether Merkel's conversations were recorded or her contacts scrutinized.

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pvtjokerus
by Platinum Member on Oct. 27, 2013 at 11:33 AM

As much as I despise this horrible administration, I wish that they would have kept this one quiet.......

KhloesMom2009
by on Oct. 27, 2013 at 11:36 AM


Quoting pvtjokerus:

As much as I despise this horrible administration, I wish that they would have kept this one quiet.......

why?

fireangel5
by Gold Member on Oct. 27, 2013 at 11:36 AM
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Waiting for........ you're a liar..........your source is a conservative source therefore not valid...........so what every president does it............

jaxTheMomm
by Platinum Member on Oct. 27, 2013 at 11:37 AM

It wouldn't surprise me too much.  But how did they validate that an "unamed source" was actually an NSA official in a position to know?

pvtjokerus
by Platinum Member on Oct. 27, 2013 at 11:50 AM
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 lololol....this has gotten too much publicity for any to say that this is a lie....but someone will say that the pres had nothing to do with it....


Quoting fireangel5:

Waiting for........ you're a liar..........your source is a conservative source therefore not valid...........so what every president does it............


 

pvtjokerus
by Platinum Member on Oct. 27, 2013 at 11:50 AM
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Gotta run....will respond later.
Quoting KhloesMom2009:


Quoting pvtjokerus:

As much as I despise this horrible administration, I wish that they would have kept this one quiet.......

why?


jaxTheMomm
by Platinum Member on Oct. 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Here's what I think is the original Der Speigel piece:

http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/spionage/obama-billigt-lauschangriff-auf-merkel-33140378.bild.html

Here is how my browser translated the relevant portions to English:

"For, according to information from Bild am Sonntag in U.S. intelligence circles of the President 2010 by NSA chief Keith Alexander was personally informed about the covert operation against Merkel."

And here's the BBC's story based on Bild:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24692908

Oh, ETA:

Rather lazy of Fox to go with an Indian newspaper report as their source.  Couldn't they find the original German piece and source that?  I did, and I don't even speak German.  LOL

pvtjokerus
by Platinum Member on Oct. 27, 2013 at 1:41 PM

 Because Germany is an ally and she is a good friend to us.  It is common knowledge that everyone spies on each other but to blatantly listen to another head of state and to admit to it is beyond repair.  This is another abuse of this administration and their carelessness is putting many in danger.


Quoting KhloesMom2009:


Quoting pvtjokerus:

As much as I despise this horrible administration, I wish that they would have kept this one quiet.......

why?


 

pvtjokerus
by Platinum Member on Oct. 27, 2013 at 1:43 PM

 Sigh.....you need to take off your "I Hate FOX hat."  This very story and more so is being reported on CNN International.  The French are all over the TV along with certain people in Germany being interviewed on the cellular interceptions.  This is how I found out about the abuse. 


Quoting jaxTheMomm:

Here's what I think is the original Der Speigel piece:

http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/spionage/obama-billigt-lauschangriff-auf-merkel-33140378.bild.html

Here is how my browser translated the relevant portions to English:

"For, according to information from Bild am Sonntag in U.S. intelligence circles of the President 2010 by NSA chief Keith Alexander was personally informed about the covert operation against Merkel."

And here's the BBC's story based on Bild:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24692908

Oh, ETA:

Rather lazy of Fox to go with an Indian newspaper report as their source.  Couldn't they find the original German piece and source that?  I did, and I don't even speak German.  LOL


 

jaxTheMomm
by Platinum Member on Oct. 27, 2013 at 1:49 PM
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Hey, it's not MY fault that they didn't go to the original source.  That's kinda lazy, but whatever.

I know where it's being reported - didn't I post the BBC link?  I like the BBC.

Quoting pvtjokerus:

 Sigh.....you need to take off your "I Hate FOX hat."  This very story and more so is being reported on CNN International.  The French are all over the TV along with certain people in Germany being interviewed on the cellular interceptions.  This is how I found out about the abuse. 


Quoting jaxTheMomm:

Here's what I think is the original Der Speigel piece:

http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/spionage/obama-billigt-lauschangriff-auf-merkel-33140378.bild.html

Here is how my browser translated the relevant portions to English:

"For, according to information from Bild am Sonntag in U.S. intelligence circles of the President 2010 by NSA chief Keith Alexander was personally informed about the covert operation against Merkel."

And here's the BBC's story based on Bild:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24692908

Oh, ETA:

Rather lazy of Fox to go with an Indian newspaper report as their source.  Couldn't they find the original German piece and source that?  I did, and I don't even speak German.  LOL





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