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"God's Not Dead" an upcoming movie

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http://www.godsnotdead.com/

I almost laughed watching the trailer, as the professor is such a caricature of the "liberal professor," and  they have him saying things like, "I can't wait to fail you" (to the Christian student) and "God is dead." 

Now, in a good philosophy course, that would be a good one to throw out: Argue this statement one way or another. But here they make the professor....well, angry and set on proving that God does not exist. He's prolly Satan himself, no?

Here, college is apparently a baaaaad place to send your children.

I see the sheep bleating their way to the (very short) movie lines. I wonder if any theater will show this?   Maybe it will only be shown in the mega-churches.

Oh, BTW, I believe in a higher power/God/whatever you choose to call it.

I just SMH at this utter crap.

BTW, why the hell do the conservative Christians care so much whether or not others believe as they do? WTF?!

by on Nov. 3, 2013 at 8:15 AM
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Seasidegirl
by Gold Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM

 


Quoting TheLadyAmalthea:

I don't understand... if people can have athiest movies, why can't christians have their own movies?

Did someone say Christians couldn't have their own movies? Out of curiosity, what athiest movies are out there (just curious. . .really)?  Is the one you mention below simply taking a critical look at religion or is it promoting athiesm? Not sure. I watched it a long time ago.

Why does it bother people so much?

My opinion is that the way the professor is portrayed is ridiculous, and I think it's an odd way of "converting." If someone has such faith in their faith, why distort reality? Why not present things as they are? I don't get the whole conversion thing, anyway.

I feel on the middle, I'm not a conservative Christian, and I'm not completely liberal. Religulous is ok, why not this one?

Actually, I thought I might be offended by Religulous, but when we rented it, I thought it was very accurate and informative. Was any truth stretched and were all religious people portrayed as caricatures or was Maher making valid points?

And during my three years at college, I did come across professors who came off like this. There are all sorts of people on different ends of this spectrum, and I'm sure there are also Christian professors who are the same. In the end, it's a movie. People can either choose to watch it or choose not to. What does bother me is when people shove it down your throat whether you want it or not. Such as handing out anti-abortion cards to children on Halloween... but that's another story.

I have come across very opinioned and very far left professors, but NOTHING like this dude. lol. Please.

Was I saying I didn't want people to have a choice as to whether they watched this or not? Strange. Some of you really take what is written in posts way out to some left field you have created in your minds. *shrug*

By the way, I can't wait to see how "well" it does in the theaters.  :)


 

Seasidegirl
by Gold Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 11:32 AM

 

Exactly. More of the "Christian persecution" exaggeration that many of the more fanatical Christians pretend exists. I don't know why they feel the need to keep that fantasy going.

Quoting PinkButterfly66:

It's great that Kevin got work.  But this is a fictional movie based on nothing that actually occurred in real life.  No secular university or college would even condone such a thing.  If something like that truly would happen, the student would mearly have to complain about the professor and the professor would probably lose his job.  

While such a discussion does have its place in a philosophy class, I really doubt that it would go to such length as putting the student's college career on the line.  



 

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Nov. 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM

I did not see the trailer in the same way the OP did.

Watching the trailer did not make me angry, or otherwise.  It looks like an interesting movie. 

The professor does appear to be rather angry but I think that is the way he is supposed to be 'portrayed'.  I do wonder if, in the end, the Professor comes to believe, again, or at all.

Meh, it is a movie.  I'm sure it is marketed to a certain demographic. Most movies are.

For some, it will seem silly and a waste of time, a movie with an agenda.  For others, it will be seen as beacon for their faith.  I think that is the point.  Get people talking.  Like we aren't already.

Bottom line, I like the actors in it, outside of Dean Cain.  I won't pay to see it in a theater but I can see renting it, out of curiosity.

Any professor attempting to fail a student because that student does not agree with where they stand is wrong.   The discussion is a good one and I can see this happening but the premise to fail off the mark is wrong.

Clairwil
by Ruby Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Quoting Seasidegirl:

BTW, why the hell do the conservative Christians care so much whether or not others believe as they do? WTF?!

The film is based upon a book by Rice Brooks.   He wrote that his 9 reasons were:

Reasoning

The capacity to reason is a gift from the Creator who calls us to think, use logic, and possess a faith that is evidenced based. Because an intelligent Designer was behind all of life, humans were motivated to comprehend the world around them and seek to conquer disease poverty, and ignorance. Therefore, real faith isn’t a blind leap, but a step in the direction of the most plausible explanation for our existence.

Right and Wrong

Good and evil are no illusion—there is a moral law. The fact that there are things that are universally considered right and wrong, regardless of culture or context, points to the existence of a source of transcendent morality. God defines right and wrong as well as giving us the power to overcome evil.

The Beginning

There was a beginning. This points to a fantastically fine-tuned universe that was designed and engineered for life to emerge. Breakthroughs in astronomy and astrophysics have shown that it indeed began, confirming the very first statement in Scripture, “in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”

Evolution is the Key

Life is no accident. The evidence for God is seen in the fantastic order and detail of living things. There is no way life could have started itself. The theory of evolution breaks down when examining systems such as the human eye, which demonstrate “irreducible complexity”—when all parts must be present at once for it to properly function.

A Purpose

Life has meaning and purpose. This serves as evidence of a transcendent God who has imbedded purpose in all that is around us. God created us on purpose for a purpose. Without God, ultimate meaning and purpose disappear. It could be said that because humans all over the world demonstrate spiritual hunger, this as well points to the existence of God.

His Existence

Jesus and the resurrection.  Jesus Christ really existed as a man—He is a historical figure. His life and death are historical facts, as well as His resurrection from the dead. Because Jesus has been raised from the dead, we can know God exists and that the words He spoke can be trusted. This miracle demonstrates His supremacy over all earthly authority.

The Bible

The testimony of Scripture. The Bible is a collection of 66 ancient books that record the words and works of God in history. It is historically accurate, has been archaeologically verified, is constructed from reliable manuscripts, and contains startling prophecies that have been fulfilled in history. Finally, it’s extraordinary impact on the lives of peoples and cultures and its relevant timeless message point to the fact that it (the Bible) indeed can be trusted and followed as the Word of God.

Evidence

The Grace Effect speaks of the evidence for God that comes from the impact of divine grace on culture and history. While skeptics point out evil acts done in the name of religion as evidence for the absence of God, the more numerous examples of good deeds and positive contributions of people of faith throughout the world demonstrate the existence of God.



jaxTheMomm
by Platinum Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 11:45 AM

This.

I expect we'll see a few "new members" posting, Hey go see this new movie, it's amazing!

Quoting rfurlongg:

It is marketed to a very specific audience enforcing already held beliefs.



TheLadyAmalthea
by Bronze Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 12:11 PM

I didn't really know what you were trying to get across in your original post, but thanks for elaborating on it for me. Makes more sense to me now. I don't plan on seeing this movie, especially in theaters. I see maybe one movie, every two years, in a theater. Too expensive and most movies aren't worth the money.

Quoting Seasidegirl:



Quoting TheLadyAmalthea:

I don't understand... if people can have athiest movies, why can't christians have their own movies?

Did someone say Christians couldn't have their own movies? Out of curiosity, what athiest movies are out there (just curious. . .really)?  Is the one you mention below simply taking a critical look at religion or is it promoting athiesm? Not sure. I watched it a long time ago.

Why does it bother people so much?

My opinion is that the way the professor is portrayed is ridiculous, and I think it's an odd way of "converting." If someone has such faith in their faith, why distort reality? Why not present things as they are? I don't get the whole conversion thing, anyway.

I feel on the middle, I'm not a conservative Christian, and I'm not completely liberal. Religulous is ok, why not this one?

Actually, I thought I might be offended by Religulous, but when we rented it, I thought it was very accurate and informative. Was any truth stretched and were all religious people portrayed as caricatures or was Maher making valid points?

And during my three years at college, I did come across professors who came off like this. There are all sorts of people on different ends of this spectrum, and I'm sure there are also Christian professors who are the same. In the end, it's a movie. People can either choose to watch it or choose not to. What does bother me is when people shove it down your throat whether you want it or not. Such as handing out anti-abortion cards to children on Halloween... but that's another story.

I have come across very opinioned and very far left professors, but NOTHING like this dude. lol. Please.

Was I saying I didn't want people to have a choice as to whether they watched this or not? Strange. Some of you really take what is written in posts way out to some left field you have created in your minds. *shrug*

By the way, I can't wait to see how "well" it does in the theaters.  :)




mcginnisc
by Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM
I never made a nasty comment about yoy, yet you were very quick to insult me as a Christian. My comprehension was based off of the fact that the OP was not clear what your rant was about.. the synopsis of the movie, the fact it is Christian or whether you believe it is indoctrinating society.
I was respectful in my post and I am sorry my confusion came across as judgemental when it was not intended to be at all.


Quoting Seasidegirl:

 lmao -- Please don't blame your comprehension difficulties on me. giggle. So Christian of you : )




Quoting mcginnisc:


 


 


Quoting stringtheory:

Seems she's ranting about the ridiculous premise: realistically, your average atheist college professor would not be that strange and ridiculous.


Quoting mcginnisc:


I have no clue what you are ranting about. I read the synopsis of the movie. Did you read the synopsis or just watch the trailer? 


According to the synopsis, the professor requires all of the students to sign a declaration that "God is dead" in order to pass his class. One student refuses so they strike a bargain. IF the student can prove that God is not dead, he passes...so, the student accepts and goes on a journey that threatens his education and his beliefs and relationships. It does not sound like Christians are trying to convert anyone. 


This movie is going to be very much like Facing The Giants, FireProof and the other Christians movies that have come out in recent years. The new movie Grace Unplugged is also a Christian based movie and playing in theaters... I'm pretty sure this will as well. I heard an interview with Keven Sorbo that said as a Christian it was very difficult for him to play the part of the professor in this movie, but he felt like he had to do it for his own journey. 


I could not tell as she was all over the place in her rant. 


 




 


shannonnigans
by Platinum Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM
LOL. Hope this is small budget, for the producers' sakes.
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Seasidegirl
by Gold Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 12:52 PM

 

Sorry. I misunderstood your comments, then.

Quoting mcginnisc:

I never made a nasty comment about yoy, yet you were very quick to insult me as a Christian. My comprehension was based off of the fact that the OP was not clear what your rant was about.. the synopsis of the movie, the fact it is Christian or whether you believe it is indoctrinating society.
I was respectful in my post and I am sorry my confusion came across as judgemental when it was not intended to be at all.


Quoting Seasidegirl:

 lmao -- Please don't blame your comprehension difficulties on me. giggle. So Christian of you : )


 


Quoting mcginnisc:


 


 


Quoting stringtheory:

Seems she's ranting about the ridiculous premise: realistically, your average atheist college professor would not be that strange and ridiculous.


Quoting mcginnisc:


I have no clue what you are ranting about. I read the synopsis of the movie. Did you read the synopsis or just watch the trailer? 


According to the synopsis, the professor requires all of the students to sign a declaration that "God is dead" in order to pass his class. One student refuses so they strike a bargain. IF the student can prove that God is not dead, he passes...so, the student accepts and goes on a journey that threatens his education and his beliefs and relationships. It does not sound like Christians are trying to convert anyone. 


This movie is going to be very much like Facing The Giants, FireProof and the other Christians movies that have come out in recent years. The new movie Grace Unplugged is also a Christian based movie and playing in theaters... I'm pretty sure this will as well. I heard an interview with Keven Sorbo that said as a Christian it was very difficult for him to play the part of the professor in this movie, but he felt like he had to do it for his own journey. 


I could not tell as she was all over the place in her rant. 


 


 


 



 

fireangel5
by Gold Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 1:50 PM


How can a school allow a teacher to fail or pass students based on their religious beliefs?

Quoting mcginnisc:

I have no clue what you are ranting about. I read the synopsis of the movie. Did you read the synopsis or just watch the trailer? 

According to the synopsis, the professor requires all of the students to sign a declaration that "God is dead" in order to pass his class. One student refuses so they strike a bargain. IF the student can prove that God is not dead, he passes...so, the student accepts and goes on a journey that threatens his education and his beliefs and relationships. It does not sound like Christians are trying to convert anyone. 

This movie is going to be very much like Facing The Giants, FireProof and the other Christians movies that have come out in recent years. The new movie Grace Unplugged is also a Christian based movie and playing in theaters... I'm pretty sure this will as well. I heard an interview with Keven Sorbo that said as a Christian it was very difficult for him to play the part of the professor in this movie, but he felt like he had to do it for his own journey. 



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