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Virginia Democrat Calls For Forcing Doctors To Accept Medicare And Medicaid Patients

Posted by on Nov. 3, 2013 at 10:03 AM
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You would think that when your party is burying a hole that is getting harder and harder to get out of, you wouldn't want to that hole get deeper faster.  But here is Kathleen Murphy, Democrat running for the House of Delegates against Barbara Comstock, telling a forum in Great Falls that she believes it should law to force doctors to accept Medicare and Medicaid patients.  Forced by government decree, mind you.  A birdie sent me this:

FYI last night at the Great Falls Grange debate, Democrat delegate candidate Kathleen Murphy said that since many doctors are not accepting medicaid and medicare patients, she advocates making it a legal requirement for those people to be accepted.  
She did not recognize that the payments are inadequate to cover the doctors' costs.  She also did not recognize there is a shortage of over 45,000 physicians now and that it is forecast to be 90,000 in a few years.  
Democrats appear to want to make physicians slaves of the state, but Democrats don't admit they would just drive more doctors out of practice into retirement and other occupations.  The Obamacare law and regulations are causing millions of people to lose their health insurance, drop many doctors and hospitals. The HHS internal forecast is 93 million Americans would lose their health insurance due to the Obamacare law and rules about adequacy of insurance.
Many more people will be uninsured.   The penalties for being uninsured start at $95 per year, but the penalties can't be collected by the IRS if a person does not have a tax refund to attach.  
The out of pocket costs required by Obamacare's Silver Plan for a non-smoking mother and father with two children making a gross before income taxes of $50,000 (roughly average salary for VA) would be $13,765 per year including the deductible of $10,400.  That's 28% of their gross income -- not very affordable and about the same as guidelines for a mortgage payment.  For such a family making $100,000 of gross income, The cost would be $21,431 including the deductible of $12,700, or 21% of gross income.   
With such high deductibles doctors are stuck with trying to collect cash from the patients, even at regulated charge structures.  Thus is makes sense for primary care doctors not to participate in Obamacare, medicare and medicaid.  They should encourage patients to participate in Concierge Care and insurance programs run by the doctors themselves with patients who can do simple math.  Patients can take out catastrophic insurance with high deductibles for major surgeries.  Tax deductability for individual medical savings accounts would make health care more affordable.  

The head of Obamacare programs, Berwick, loves the socialized medical system in the UK, but never mentions that malpractice insurance is minimal.  In the UK, panels of doctors review and approve malpractice awards, rather than emotional juries misled by trial lawyers.  Malpractice reform like this with caps on malpractice awards would go a long way in making health care affordable.
I hope physicians rise up and speak out for common sense, protecting quality medical care in the US and giving patients freedom to choose

 

THIS along with the fact that Terry McAuliffe has already said he'd go to the government shutdown mat to get a state exchange in Virginia.  Unbelievable.  Combine the chaos of thousands of people across Virginia losing their health insurance, we are going to add to that on the state level by forcing doctors to accept patients they can't afford to help?  Unbelievable.  Dark days are ahead, but there is still time.    Three days to make sure this does not happen.  

Democrats in Virginia will drive up health care costs, drive doctors out of the state, and then drive health care costs up even more because there will not be enough doctors practicing in the state. 

Minnow Slayer

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Sisteract
by Whoopie on Nov. 3, 2013 at 10:25 AM
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Back in the day, all government assisted patients went to the county facility. Now, all hospitals must accept assisted patients, even HMO groups like Kaiser Foundation- 

yourspecialkid
by Platinum Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 10:31 AM
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 I don't think the government should tell individual doctors what coverage they must accept.  Especially when that coverage isn't enough to cover the cost of the visit.

I would not want the government telling me I must sell my product to school districts for a price that does not cover the cost.  I would tell them to stick it.

 

DSamuels
by Gold Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 10:42 AM
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With premiums that are close to or exceed your mortgage payment it shows how really bad this whole law is. That is not affordable in any way. 

This whole law should be scrapped and reworked.

stringtheory
by Gold Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 10:43 AM
So I didn't read the whole thing, but wanted to share my story anyway. Years ago, when dd was an infant, I was on Medicaid, or the Cali version, medical. No docs in the area would take medical (more accurately, they would only take a certain number of patients with medical, and that quota was met everywhere I looked). While recently considering leaving the military to finish college brick-and-mortar style (I am currently enrolled in a degree program at UMUC, but was thinking of my other options), my big concern was health insurance, as I have an infant again. I started to worry about all the high premiums and deductibles I was hearing about. A family member who is a believer that ACA is better than nothing said I would likely qualify for medical under the expanded program. I explained my previous experience and asked if that would be any different under ACA. How counterproductive would it be if my insurance would only cover pricey ER visits? I want and could have afforded a private plan before ACA, even if I left the military and went to school. Now I dont think so. I DO NOT think docs should be forced to take medicare/caid. I just want to be able to afford to go to a doctor who is adequately compensated. How can THAT be achieved for everyone, I wonder?
tanyainmizzou
by on Nov. 3, 2013 at 10:45 AM
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But men in their 20's now have prenatal care covered and you don't have to hand over cash for birth control!


WE ARE  FREE FROM THE SHACKLES OF REPRODUCTIVE RESPONSIBILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoting DSamuels:

With premiums that are close to or exceed your mortgage payment it shows how really bad this whole law is. That is not affordable in any way. 

This whole law should be scrapped and reworked.


mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 10:52 AM

A politician saying something that is unrealistic. Wow. be still my outraged heart. 

PestPatti
by on Nov. 3, 2013 at 10:56 AM


   And what happens when MCRE or MCD dont pay.   Are doctors supposed to work for free. 

fireangel5
by Gold Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 10:59 AM
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I don't think a doctor should be forced to take any patient into a private practice.  

Where is the incentive for current docs to stay in practice and new ones to enter the medical field?

My son just decided the face of medicine is changing too much and he is now changing his plans for the future. No longer planning on med school. Too bad, he is brillant and a very caring young man. He would have made a fantastic doctor. 

fireangel5
by Gold Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM
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Essentially, it is for the common good after all!!  (sarcasm font)

Quoting PestPatti:


   And what happens when MCRE or MCD dont pay.   Are doctors supposed to work for free. 



DSamuels
by Gold Member on Nov. 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM
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Of course they are. They shouldn't be greedy and expect to make money, should they? (Sarcasm)

Quoting PestPatti:


   And what happens when MCRE or MCD dont pay.   Are doctors supposed to work for free. 


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