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Senate Passes ENDA

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http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/11/07/243763668/senate-approves-enda-adding-sexual-orientation-to-work-protections

Senate Approves Bill To Add Sexual Orientation To Work Protections

by BILL CHAPPELL

November 07, 2013 2:46 PM

The Senate has approved the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which gives workplace protections to workers and job applicants who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender. The bill would apply to any private employer that has more than 15 employees; it includes an exemption for religious groups.The measure adding sexual orientation and gender identity to the list of characteristics that cannot be discriminated against in the workplace passed by a vote of 64-32 — a slightly stronger showing than an earlier vote to move forward on the legislation, which passed 61-30.

The bill, widely referred to as ENDA, was introduced with the support of a bipartisan group, including Democratic Sens. Jeff Merkley of Oregon, Tom Harkin of Iowa and Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin, and Republican Sens. Mark Kirk of Illinois and Susan Collins of Maine."Everyone, gay or straight, should have the right to work hard and earn a living," Merkley said in a statement issued after Monday's cloture vote. "Unfortunately, in 29 states you can still be fired for who you are and who you love. That is just plain wrong."

ENDA is not expected to come up for a vote in the House of Representatives, where Speaker John Boehner has voiced his opposition to the measure.

Update at 4 p.m. ET: Reaction From ACLU, And More On The Exception"

In a year of historic victories for LGBT people, this one ranks near the top," says Anthony D. Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union. "Getting ENDA across the finish line in the Senate after a nearly four-decade-long journey is a huge win for all who believe that workers should be judged on the job by their merits, nothing more and nothing less."

As we've noted, the bill provides exemption for religious groups. It was also the subject of two major amendments this week.One attempt came from Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., that would have expanded the religious exemption further; that add-on was voted down.

Another amendment would prevent the federal government from retaliating against religious groups "that don't hire someone because of sexual orientation or identity," as The Hill reports. That amendment, introduced by Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, was approved by voice vote.
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briellesmomma
by Bronze Member on Nov. 8, 2013 at 1:04 AM
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I think that's great.
Bookwormy
by Platinum Member on Nov. 8, 2013 at 1:05 AM
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I wish it were expected to at least be voted on in the House. This is only symbolic. I think it is ridiculous that we have basically overturned DOMA but folks in several states can still be evicted, fired, & discriminated against if they do have a same sex marriage.
AdrianneHill
by Platinum Member on Nov. 8, 2013 at 2:47 AM
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It's sad that the house would never let it see the light of day.
UpSheRises
by Platinum Member on Nov. 8, 2013 at 5:56 AM
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Democracy in action, right?


Quoting AdrianneHill:

It's sad that the house would never let it see the light of day.

candlegal
by Judy on Nov. 8, 2013 at 7:17 AM


Quotas for Transsexuals: What ENDA Portends

by Austin Ruse

senate-enda-vote

A man dressed as a woman entered a women’s locker-room at a college in Washington State. This locker-room at Evergreen State College is used not just by co-eds but also by little girls who use the college for programs.

In a subsequent police report the transvestite was accused of “sitting with her legs open with her male genitalia showing.” Put aside the absurdity of a “her” having “male genitalia” and focus on the fact that what this man did was perfectly legal. Police and the school had to ignore the complaints because in Washington State “sexual orientation and gender identity” are protected categories of nondiscrimination. It seems a pre-op transsexual may sling his junk with impunity.

Then there’s the story of Brian Griggs who had charges brought against him by the Seattle Human Rights Commission. His crime? Playing a Christian radio station in the business he owned and also posting a letter from his Congresswoman questioning open gays in the military. According to Walter Olson of the Cato Institute, Griggs has to spend thousands of dollars to defend himself.

Washington State is not the only one. California has a similar law with similar results. Some employees of the city of Oakland started a gay and lesbian association. Two Christians started a Christian association and were ordered by their supervisor to cease and desist under threat of firing. Their efforts were called “homophobic” and contributing to the “harassment” of gay employees.

There is a small patchwork of states that have such laws that inevitably harm businesses and religious objectors to the dominant sexual ethos. But these are only states. However, the US Senate yesterday passed something called the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) that will enforce a similar law nationally.

ENDA says any organization with 15 or more employees may not “fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise discriminate against any individual with respect to the compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges or employment or the individual, because of such individual’s actual or perceived sexual orientation or gender identity.”

ENDA defines sexual orientation as “homosexuality, heterosexuality, or bi-sexuality” but, in the words of Ryan Anderson of the Heritage Foundation, “offers no definition of those terms or what principle limits its ‘orientation’ to those three.”

ENDA defines gender identity as “the gender-related identity, appearance, or mannerisms or other gender-related characteristics of an individual, with or without regard to the individuals designated sex at birth.” That means transsexuals.

Keep in mind that sexual orientation and gender identity have awfully slippery definitions. As Anderson says in his Heritage Backgrounder, “Sexual orientation and gender identity are commonly understood to be subjective, self-disclosed, and self-defined.” They are not like race, which is a properly protected category.

Dr. Paul McHugh, one of the giants of psychiatry, former head of that unit at Johns Hopkins University, filed an amicus brief in the DOMA case before the Supreme Court several months ago and addressed exactly this topic. “Social science research continues to show that sexual orientation, unlike race, color and ethnicity, is neither a clearly defined concept nor an immutable characteristic of human beings.“  He noted from his decades of experience that sexual orientation is completely fluid and changes dramatically over a lifetime.

McHugh wrote that gender identity “is even more fluid and erratic, so much so that in limited cases an individual could claim to ‘identify’ with a different gender of successive days at work.”

Besides the question of who is being protected here—a he-she on Monday could be a she-he on Tuesday—this new law exposes businesses to immense intrusion that could litigate them out of the marketplace.

What’s more, religious liberty would be further imperiled. Hobby Lobby, a business started by Christians and advanced along Christian lines, would be forced to hire transsexuals at their registers and as their sales force. And if they didn’t, they would be in violation of federal law. Your child’s grade-school Principal shows up one day in a dress and fake boobs. You don’t like it? Your child is scandalized? Too bad for you and your child.

And if ENDA passes you can say good-bye to all state laws banning gay marriage. The 36 states where it is not allowed would inevitably have to fall.

Race hustlers everywhere know exactly where this is headed, toward self-imposed quotas by businesses large and small. The only way a business can inoculate itself against charges of discriminatory hiring practices is to hire the aggrieved class no matter what. If pushed by the Justice Department, Hobby Lobby’s only line of defense would be to trot out the transsexuals. They don’t even have to know how to type as long as they have lopped off their penises or at least wear dresses.

One of the truly strange things about the gay-rights movement is how free they are with their strangest cousins. You would think that even gay men and lesbians might be rather embarrassed by the T in LGBT. But so bold are they, so fearless, that they now lead with the T. Most Americans are rightly put off by such displays of obvious psychological disturbances.

The bill that just passed the US Senate was met with no genuine objection even by conservative Senators, so cowed are they by the new totalitarians of the sexual left. The bill now moves to the House of Representatives where there are more spines, one hopes.

For a glimpse into your future, ponder the words of Collene Francis, the transsexual who spread his/her legs for the little girls in the locker-room of Evergreen State College in Washington State. He/she said,  “This is not 1959 Alabama. We don’t call the police for drinking from the wrong water fountain.” No, but apparently we let a grown man show his genitals to little girls and call it progress.

source

candlegal
by Judy on Nov. 8, 2013 at 7:22 AM

I hope you are right.

Quoting AdrianneHill:

It's sad that the house would never let it see the light of day.


momtoscott
by Platinum Member on Nov. 8, 2013 at 7:30 AM
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I hope the bill passes.  

Bookwormy
by Platinum Member on Nov. 8, 2013 at 7:53 AM
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I know that you didn't read this bs, but there is a religious amendment in ENDA so your concerns in what you replied about religious freedom being infringed are bunk.

It's a shame you don't read the articles you post, making you the worst kind of troll. You don't really care, right? You just get paid for the number of posts & replies, right? So why bother reading the bs you post. That's why you don't have time, cause you need to keep your numbers up. Lovely ethics there.


Quoting candlegal:


Quotas for Transsexuals: What ENDA Portends


by Austin Ruse




senate-enda-vote

A man dressed as a woman entered a women’s locker-room
at a college in Washington State. This locker-room at Evergreen State
College is used not just by co-eds but also by little girls who use the
college for programs.


In a subsequent police report the transvestite was accused of
“sitting with her legs open with her male genitalia showing.” Put aside
the absurdity of a “her” having “male genitalia” and focus on the fact
that what this man did was perfectly legal. Police and the school had to
ignore the complaints because in Washington State “sexual orientation
and gender identity” are protected categories of nondiscrimination. It
seems a pre-op transsexual may sling his junk with impunity.


Then there’s the story of Brian Griggs who had charges brought
against him by the Seattle Human Rights Commission. His crime? Playing a
Christian radio station in the business he owned and also posting a
letter from his Congresswoman questioning open gays in the military.
According to Walter Olson of the Cato Institute, Griggs has to spend
thousands of dollars to defend himself.


Washington State is not the only one. California has a similar law
with similar results. Some employees of the city of Oakland started a
gay and lesbian association. Two Christians started a Christian
association and were ordered by their supervisor to cease and desist
under threat of firing. Their efforts were called “homophobic” and
contributing to the “harassment” of gay employees.


There is a small patchwork of states that have such laws that
inevitably harm businesses and religious objectors to the dominant
sexual ethos. But these are only states. However, the US Senate
yesterday passed something called the Employment Non-Discrimination Act
(ENDA) that will enforce a similar law nationally.


ENDA says any organization with 15 or more employees may not “fail or
refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise
discriminate against any individual with respect to the compensation,
terms, conditions, or privileges or employment or the individual,
because of such individual’s actual or perceived sexual orientation or
gender identity.”


ENDA defines sexual orientation as “homosexuality, heterosexuality,
or bi-sexuality” but, in the words of Ryan Anderson of the Heritage
Foundation, “offers no definition of those terms or what principle
limits its ‘orientation’ to those three.”


ENDA defines gender identity as “the gender-related identity,
appearance, or mannerisms or other gender-related characteristics of an
individual, with or without regard to the individuals designated sex at
birth.” That means transsexuals.


Keep in mind that sexual orientation and gender identity have awfully
slippery definitions. As Anderson says in his Heritage Backgrounder,
“Sexual orientation and gender identity are commonly understood to be
subjective, self-disclosed, and self-defined.” They are not like race,
which is a properly protected category.


Dr. Paul McHugh, one of the giants of psychiatry, former head of that
unit at Johns Hopkins University, filed an amicus brief in the DOMA
case before the Supreme Court several months ago and addressed exactly
this topic. “Social science research continues to show that sexual
orientation, unlike race, color and ethnicity, is neither a clearly
defined concept nor an immutable characteristic of human beings.“  He
noted from his decades of experience that sexual orientation is
completely fluid and changes dramatically over a lifetime.


McHugh wrote that gender identity “is even more fluid and erratic, so
much so that in limited cases an individual could claim to ‘identify’
with a different gender of successive days at work.”


Besides the question of who is being protected here—a he-she on
Monday could be a she-he on Tuesday—this new law exposes businesses to
immense intrusion that could litigate them out of the marketplace.


What’s more, religious liberty would be further imperiled. Hobby
Lobby, a business started by Christians and advanced along Christian
lines, would be forced to hire transsexuals at their registers and as
their sales force. And if they didn’t, they would be in violation of
federal law. Your child’s grade-school Principal shows up one day in a
dress and fake boobs. You don’t like it? Your child is scandalized? Too
bad for you and your child.


And if ENDA passes you can say good-bye to all state laws banning gay
marriage. The 36 states where it is not allowed would inevitably have
to fall.


Race hustlers everywhere know exactly where this is headed, toward
self-imposed quotas by businesses large and small. The only way a
business can inoculate itself against charges of discriminatory hiring
practices is to hire the aggrieved class no matter what. If pushed by
the Justice Department, Hobby Lobby’s only line of defense would be to
trot out the transsexuals. They don’t even have to know how to type as
long as they have lopped off their penises or at least wear dresses.


One of the truly strange things about the gay-rights movement is how
free they are with their strangest cousins. You would think that even
gay men and lesbians might be rather embarrassed by the T in LGBT. But
so bold are they, so fearless, that they now lead with the T. Most
Americans are rightly put off by such displays of obvious psychological
disturbances.


The bill that just passed the US Senate was met with no genuine
objection even by conservative Senators, so cowed are they by the new
totalitarians of the sexual left. The bill now moves to the House of
Representatives where there are more spines, one hopes.


For a glimpse into your future, ponder the words of Collene Francis,
the transsexual who spread his/her legs for the little girls in the
locker-room of Evergreen State College in Washington State. He/she
said,  “This is not 1959 Alabama. We don’t call the police for drinking
from the wrong water fountain.” No, but apparently we let a grown man
show his genitals to little girls and call it progress.

source

candlegal
by Judy on Nov. 8, 2013 at 7:59 AM

Right, because religious amendments have worked out so well every time they have one in there, right?

As to the rest of your BS, LOL


Quoting Bookwormy:

I know that you didn't read this bs, but there is a religious amendment in ENDA so your concerns in what you replied about religious freedom being infringed are bunk.

It's a shame you don't read the articles you post, making you the worst kind of troll. You don't really care, right? You just get paid for the number of posts & replies, right? So why bother reading the bs you post. That's why you don't have time, cause you need to keep your numbers up. Lovely ethics there.


Quoting candlegal:


Quotas for Transsexuals: What ENDA Portends


by Austin Ruse




senate-enda-vote

A man dressed as a woman entered a women’s locker-room
at a college in Washington State. This locker-room at Evergreen State
College is used not just by co-eds but also by little girls who use the
college for programs.


In a subsequent police report the transvestite was accused of
“sitting with her legs open with her male genitalia showing.” Put aside
the absurdity of a “her” having “male genitalia” and focus on the fact
that what this man did was perfectly legal. Police and the school had to
ignore the complaints because in Washington State “sexual orientation
and gender identity” are protected categories of nondiscrimination. It
seems a pre-op transsexual may sling his junk with impunity.


Then there’s the story of Brian Griggs who had charges brought
against him by the Seattle Human Rights Commission. His crime? Playing a
Christian radio station in the business he owned and also posting a
letter from his Congresswoman questioning open gays in the military.
According to Walter Olson of the Cato Institute, Griggs has to spend
thousands of dollars to defend himself.


Washington State is not the only one. California has a similar law
with similar results. Some employees of the city of Oakland started a
gay and lesbian association. Two Christians started a Christian
association and were ordered by their supervisor to cease and desist
under threat of firing. Their efforts were called “homophobic” and
contributing to the “harassment” of gay employees.


There is a small patchwork of states that have such laws that
inevitably harm businesses and religious objectors to the dominant
sexual ethos. But these are only states. However, the US Senate
yesterday passed something called the Employment Non-Discrimination Act
(ENDA) that will enforce a similar law nationally.


ENDA says any organization with 15 or more employees may not “fail or
refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise
discriminate against any individual with respect to the compensation,
terms, conditions, or privileges or employment or the individual,
because of such individual’s actual or perceived sexual orientation or
gender identity.”


ENDA defines sexual orientation as “homosexuality, heterosexuality,
or bi-sexuality” but, in the words of Ryan Anderson of the Heritage
Foundation, “offers no definition of those terms or what principle
limits its ‘orientation’ to those three.”


ENDA defines gender identity as “the gender-related identity,
appearance, or mannerisms or other gender-related characteristics of an
individual, with or without regard to the individuals designated sex at
birth.” That means transsexuals.


Keep in mind that sexual orientation and gender identity have awfully
slippery definitions. As Anderson says in his Heritage Backgrounder,
“Sexual orientation and gender identity are commonly understood to be
subjective, self-disclosed, and self-defined.” They are not like race,
which is a properly protected category.


Dr. Paul McHugh, one of the giants of psychiatry, former head of that
unit at Johns Hopkins University, filed an amicus brief in the DOMA
case before the Supreme Court several months ago and addressed exactly
this topic. “Social science research continues to show that sexual
orientation, unlike race, color and ethnicity, is neither a clearly
defined concept nor an immutable characteristic of human beings.“  He
noted from his decades of experience that sexual orientation is
completely fluid and changes dramatically over a lifetime.


McHugh wrote that gender identity “is even more fluid and erratic, so
much so that in limited cases an individual could claim to ‘identify’
with a different gender of successive days at work.”


Besides the question of who is being protected here—a he-she on
Monday could be a she-he on Tuesday—this new law exposes businesses to
immense intrusion that could litigate them out of the marketplace.


What’s more, religious liberty would be further imperiled. Hobby
Lobby, a business started by Christians and advanced along Christian
lines, would be forced to hire transsexuals at their registers and as
their sales force. And if they didn’t, they would be in violation of
federal law. Your child’s grade-school Principal shows up one day in a
dress and fake boobs. You don’t like it? Your child is scandalized? Too
bad for you and your child.


And if ENDA passes you can say good-bye to all state laws banning gay
marriage. The 36 states where it is not allowed would inevitably have
to fall.


Race hustlers everywhere know exactly where this is headed, toward
self-imposed quotas by businesses large and small. The only way a
business can inoculate itself against charges of discriminatory hiring
practices is to hire the aggrieved class no matter what. If pushed by
the Justice Department, Hobby Lobby’s only line of defense would be to
trot out the transsexuals. They don’t even have to know how to type as
long as they have lopped off their penises or at least wear dresses.


One of the truly strange things about the gay-rights movement is how
free they are with their strangest cousins. You would think that even
gay men and lesbians might be rather embarrassed by the T in LGBT. But
so bold are they, so fearless, that they now lead with the T. Most
Americans are rightly put off by such displays of obvious psychological
disturbances.


The bill that just passed the US Senate was met with no genuine
objection even by conservative Senators, so cowed are they by the new
totalitarians of the sexual left. The bill now moves to the House of
Representatives where there are more spines, one hopes.


For a glimpse into your future, ponder the words of Collene Francis,
the transsexual who spread his/her legs for the little girls in the
locker-room of Evergreen State College in Washington State. He/she
said,  “This is not 1959 Alabama. We don’t call the police for drinking
from the wrong water fountain.” No, but apparently we let a grown man
show his genitals to little girls and call it progress.

source


nixore
by Myk Elskling on Nov. 8, 2013 at 8:08 AM
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Oh, no!  We actually have to treat people like PEOPLE?  Even if they don't conform to our false gender-binary beliefs?!  How disgustingly awful! 

Quoting candlegal:


Quotas for Transsexuals: What ENDA Portends

by Austin Ruse

senate-enda-vote

A man dressed as a woman entered a women’s locker-room at a college in Washington State. This locker-room at Evergreen State College is used not just by co-eds but also by little girls who use the college for programs.

In a subsequent police report the transvestite was accused of “sitting with her legs open with her male genitalia showing.” Put aside the absurdity of a “her” having “male genitalia” and focus on the fact that what this man did was perfectly legal. Police and the school had to ignore the complaints because in Washington State “sexual orientation and gender identity” are protected categories of nondiscrimination. It seems a pre-op transsexual may sling his junk with impunity.

Then there’s the story of Brian Griggs who had charges brought against him by the Seattle Human Rights Commission. His crime? Playing a Christian radio station in the business he owned and also posting a letter from his Congresswoman questioning open gays in the military. According to Walter Olson of the Cato Institute, Griggs has to spend thousands of dollars to defend himself.

Washington State is not the only one. California has a similar law with similar results. Some employees of the city of Oakland started a gay and lesbian association. Two Christians started a Christian association and were ordered by their supervisor to cease and desist under threat of firing. Their efforts were called “homophobic” and contributing to the “harassment” of gay employees.

There is a small patchwork of states that have such laws that inevitably harm businesses and religious objectors to the dominant sexual ethos. But these are only states. However, the US Senate yesterday passed something called the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) that will enforce a similar law nationally.

ENDA says any organization with 15 or more employees may not “fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise discriminate against any individual with respect to the compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges or employment or the individual, because of such individual’s actual or perceived sexual orientation or gender identity.”

ENDA defines sexual orientation as “homosexuality, heterosexuality, or bi-sexuality” but, in the words of Ryan Anderson of the Heritage Foundation, “offers no definition of those terms or what principle limits its ‘orientation’ to those three.”

ENDA defines gender identity as “the gender-related identity, appearance, or mannerisms or other gender-related characteristics of an individual, with or without regard to the individuals designated sex at birth.” That means transsexuals.

Keep in mind that sexual orientation and gender identity have awfully slippery definitions. As Anderson says in his Heritage Backgrounder, “Sexual orientation and gender identity are commonly understood to be subjective, self-disclosed, and self-defined.” They are not like race, which is a properly protected category.

Dr. Paul McHugh, one of the giants of psychiatry, former head of that unit at Johns Hopkins University, filed an amicus brief in the DOMA case before the Supreme Court several months ago and addressed exactly this topic. “Social science research continues to show that sexual orientation, unlike race, color and ethnicity, is neither a clearly defined concept nor an immutable characteristic of human beings.“  He noted from his decades of experience that sexual orientation is completely fluid and changes dramatically over a lifetime.

McHugh wrote that gender identity “is even more fluid and erratic, so much so that in limited cases an individual could claim to ‘identify’ with a different gender of successive days at work.”

Besides the question of who is being protected here—a he-she on Monday could be a she-he on Tuesday—this new law exposes businesses to immense intrusion that could litigate them out of the marketplace.

What’s more, religious liberty would be further imperiled. Hobby Lobby, a business started by Christians and advanced along Christian lines, would be forced to hire transsexuals at their registers and as their sales force. And if they didn’t, they would be in violation of federal law. Your child’s grade-school Principal shows up one day in a dress and fake boobs. You don’t like it? Your child is scandalized? Too bad for you and your child.

And if ENDA passes you can say good-bye to all state laws banning gay marriage. The 36 states where it is not allowed would inevitably have to fall.

Race hustlers everywhere know exactly where this is headed, toward self-imposed quotas by businesses large and small. The only way a business can inoculate itself against charges of discriminatory hiring practices is to hire the aggrieved class no matter what. If pushed by the Justice Department, Hobby Lobby’s only line of defense would be to trot out the transsexuals. They don’t even have to know how to type as long as they have lopped off their penises or at least wear dresses.

One of the truly strange things about the gay-rights movement is how free they are with their strangest cousins. You would think that even gay men and lesbians might be rather embarrassed by the T in LGBT. But so bold are they, so fearless, that they now lead with the T. Most Americans are rightly put off by such displays of obvious psychological disturbances.

The bill that just passed the US Senate was met with no genuine objection even by conservative Senators, so cowed are they by the new totalitarians of the sexual left. The bill now moves to the House of Representatives where there are more spines, one hopes.

For a glimpse into your future, ponder the words of Collene Francis, the transsexual who spread his/her legs for the little girls in the locker-room of Evergreen State College in Washington State. He/she said,  “This is not 1959 Alabama. We don’t call the police for drinking from the wrong water fountain.” No, but apparently we let a grown man show his genitals to little girls and call it progress.

source


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