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One JFK conspiracy theory that could be true

Posted by on Nov. 16, 2013 at 7:11 PM
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Perry shared five conspiracy theories he believes rank among the most popular:

1. "LBJ had it done"

Perry has shot this one down. "It's based primarily on statements made by Madeleine Brown," who Perry described as a "crackpot." Brown -- who died in 2002 -- claimed to have had an affair with Johnson. She also claimed that LBJ had attended a party with ex-Vice President Richard Nixon, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover and others the night before the attack. According to Perry, Brown said LBJ whispered into her ear, "After tomorrow, those Kennedys will never embarrass me again. That's no threat. That's a promise."

"That's absolutely not true," said Perry, who said his research proved LBJ couldn't have been at the alleged party that night, debunking Brown's story.

"A lot of Texans didn't like Johnson -- they thought he was a crook -- so as a result, they started creating this fiction after the assassination where he wanted Kennedy out so he could be president," Perry said. "But we've found no evidence, and we know that all the stuff that Madeleine Brown said was contrived."

2. The "military industrial complex" did it

Nope, that doesn't wash either, said Perry. "The claim is that Kennedy was going to pull (American) troops out of Vietnam (and that) the military wanted to pour more people into Vietnam. That's technically not correct. He talked about trying to resolve the situation, but he never made a claim that he was going to pull out of there."

3. "The mob" did it

Sorry, said Perry, no veracity to that. "There's at least three different groups that they claim independently did this: There's the Chicago mob, the Miami mob, and the New Orleans mob. But it's all hearsay."

4. "Oswald acted alone as part of an unknown conspiracy"

It's possible there were individuals who helped Oswald, but who weren't part of any larger group or perhaps unaware of what he was planning. "Remember John Wilkes Booth shot Lincoln and four were hung, including the first woman ever to be hung (by the federal government,) Mary Surratt," he said.

5. "The CIA did it"

This is the conspiracy theory that interests Perry the most. "The problem is, of all of them, this is one I can't debunk," he laughs.

"Supposedly Kennedy was fed up with the shenanigans that the CIA was pulling," Perry said. "He found out the CIA was trying to kill (Cuban leader Fidel) Castro, which is a fact. So the argument is that the CIA felt that Kennedy was going to disband them. And as a result of that, they were the ones that ordered the killing of Kennedy."

Perry points out that a former head of the CIA, Allen Dulles, was a member of the Warren Commission, the special Johnson-appointed panel tasked with the official investigation of the assassination. The commission determined that Oswald acted alone.

Oswald was a supporter of Soviet-backed Cuba.

"We know Oswald was in the Russian embassy in Mexico City," Perry said. "We even know who he talked to. But we don't know what was said. Then a few weeks later, he shoots Kennedy."

"It may have been something that they overheard involving him and the Russians. Or, maybe the CIA had Oswald on the payroll. He might have been a double agent."

Is it possible that Russians ordered Oswald to do it?

Not likely, said Perry. The Russians would never have ordered Oswald to kill Kennedy because of his well-known links to Russia and his pro-Cuban sympathies. Russia's leaders knew they would have been the first suspects if they'd engineered an assassination by Oswald. It would have been an act of war, which could have triggered a nuclear attack.

"We need to know what happened in Mexico City," Perry said.

The answer, he said, may be contained in still-classified CIA documents. The U.S. National Archives currently holds a number of unreleased CIA documents related to the assassination. Those papers are scheduled to be made public in 2017 as part of the 1992 Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act.

"CIA has followed the provisions of the JFK Assassination Records Collection Act, and the National Archives has all of the agency's documents and files on the Kennedy assassination," said CIA spokesman Edward Price. "The classified information contained in the files remains subject to the declassification provisions of the Act."

So, either we already know the truth, Oswald acted alone, or -- worst-case scenario -- we may never know the whole truth, prompting one more question surrounding the killing of JFK: Would America be OK with that?


http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/16/us/jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-debunked/?hpt=hp_c2


Do you think the CIA could have done it?

by on Nov. 16, 2013 at 7:11 PM
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billsfan1104
by Jules on Nov. 16, 2013 at 7:15 PM
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Who is Perry?

I have always thought that there were more gunmen there and shot. The video looks like he was shot a couple of times.
I also believe that the government had something to do with it too, just like Marilyn Monroe too
stormcris
by Christy on Nov. 16, 2013 at 7:17 PM

A guy who is like the top of knowledge on JFK assisination related stuff. This is his web site:

http://dperry1943.com/

From the article: So, when reporters, producers, or amateur historians are looking to check out the latest JFK conspiracy theory, they call Dave Perry. "People think I'm an anti-conspiracy guy," Perry said recently at his Dallas-area home.

Quoting billsfan1104:

Who is Perry?

I have always thought that there were more gunmen there and shot. The video looks like he was shot a couple of times.
I also believe that the government had something to do with it too, just like Marilyn Monroe too


Kidcrock
by Member on Nov. 16, 2013 at 7:18 PM
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Oswald done it and acted alone.

stormcris
by Christy on Nov. 16, 2013 at 7:20 PM

So you didn't believe the mobster who claimed to have order the hit? (They didn't mention that in the article)

Quoting Kidcrock:

Oswalt done it and acted alone.


connie45
by Member on Nov. 16, 2013 at 7:23 PM
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Kennedy WAS shot a couple of times. I just watched an interview this morning on,CBS, with,the Dallas police officer handcuffed to Oswald when,Ruby,shot . This officer also arrested Oswald right before they figured out he was a suspect in,killing Kennedy. He believes Oswald acted alone. I believe that too.


Quoting billsfan1104:

Who is Perry?



I have always thought that there were more gunmen there and shot. The video looks like he was shot a couple of times.

I also believe that the government had something to do with it too, just like Marilyn Monroe too

billsfan1104
by Jules on Nov. 16, 2013 at 7:24 PM
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Thank you. I don't junk Oswald did it alone. I think Oswald was going to say that he only shot a couple of times. So that's why Ruby shot and killed him. I also believe that the cops did the perp walk on purpose. Who is going to let an assassin walk in public like that?

Quoting stormcris:

A guy who is like the top of knowledge on JFK assisination related stuff. This is his web site:

http://dperry1943.com/

From the article: So, when reporters, producers, or amateur historians are looking to check out the latest JFK conspiracy theory, they call Dave Perry. "People think I'm an anti-conspiracy guy," Perry said recently at his Dallas-area home.

Quoting billsfan1104:

Who is Perry?



I have always thought that there were more gunmen there and shot. The video looks like he was shot a couple of times.

I also believe that the government had something to do with it too, just like Marilyn Monroe too


stormcris
by Christy on Nov. 16, 2013 at 7:25 PM

You do not believe that anyone hired or made the suggestion to him either? I ask because sometimes acted alone means lone gunman when people say it and sometimes it doesn't.

Quoting connie45:

Kennedy WAS shot a couple of times. I just watched an interview this morning on,CBS, with,the Dallas police officer handcuffed to Oswald when,Ruby,shot . This officer also arrested Oswald right before they figured out he was a suspect in,killing Kennedy. He believes Oswald acted alone. I believe that too.


Quoting billsfan1104:

Who is Perry?



I have always thought that there were more gunmen there and shot. The video looks like he was shot a couple of times.

I also believe that the government had something to do with it too, just like Marilyn Monroe too


Kidcrock
by Member on Nov. 16, 2013 at 7:25 PM
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Just another guy wanting his five minutes of fame.  Oswald fits the classic profile of an assassin to a T.

Quoting stormcris:

So you didn't believe the mobster who claimed to have order the hit? (They didn't mention that in the article)

Quoting Kidcrock:

Oswalt done it and acted alone.




Mom2five87
by Member on Nov. 16, 2013 at 7:27 PM
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I believe it's either #1 or #5 and I don't believe Oswald had anything to do with it. I think he was framed.

Kidcrock
by Member on Nov. 16, 2013 at 7:32 PM


By who?  The dept of agriculture?

Quoting Mom2five87:

I believe it's either #1 or #5 and I don't believe Oswald had anything to do with it. I think he was framed.



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