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Should 'Under God' be removed from the Pledge of Allegiance

Posted by on Nov. 28, 2013 at 2:52 AM
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Question: Should 'Under God' be removed from the Pledge of Allegiance?

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Thoughts? Please explain your reasoning. I know there are more vital issues on hand but how would you vote if it were on the ballot and why?

 


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by on Nov. 28, 2013 at 2:52 AM
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Goodwoman614
by Satan on Nov. 28, 2013 at 3:13 AM
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I know the history of those two words: why and when they were added to the pledge. 

I also think they are exclusionary to non believers.

..MoonShine..
by Redwood Witch on Nov. 28, 2013 at 3:50 AM
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I agree.

Quoting Goodwoman614:

I know the history of those two words: why and when they were added to the pledge. 

I also think they are exclusionary to non believers.

turtle68
by Mahinaarangi on Nov. 28, 2013 at 5:41 AM
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For me the words mean nothing and I would have no problem saying it....its more about the feelings it stirs when saying the entire pledge and what that pledge means to you.  JMO

My national anthem is called God defend New Zealand.  I sing it with pride and would not want a word changed.  Im sure I sit with the majority on this.  The words if you believe in god can give you comfort and peace...the words if you dont believe can stir pride just as much.

jean_marie1987
by Member on Nov. 28, 2013 at 6:03 AM
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I believe it should never have been added. I'm not the right person to ask though, since I think the whole pledge teaches the wrong thing. Why should we pledge allegiance to a flag?
Mommabearbergh
by Gold Member on Nov. 28, 2013 at 6:15 AM
I don't really care either way. I will say it however its put. My allegiance is to America although it hasn't always treated my ancestors right it is the land of my birth.
Friday
by HRH of MJ on Nov. 28, 2013 at 6:21 AM
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Quoting turtle68:

For me the words mean nothing and I would have no problem saying it....its more about the feelings it stirs when saying the entire pledge and what that pledge means to you.  JMO

My national anthem is called God defend New Zealand.  I sing it with pride and would not want a word changed.  Im sure I sit with the majority on this.  The words if you believe in god can give you comfort and peace...the words if you dont believe can stir pride just as much.

If it were originally written that way, I might agree but it was added years later against the wishes of the authors family.

 


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momtoscott
by Gold Member on Nov. 28, 2013 at 6:29 AM
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Yes, it should be removed.  The phrase "under God" was not in the original pledge, and it was inserted in the McCarthyist 50s for very bad reasons.   As such, the phrase is enblematic of one of the most shameful eras in our history.  

Furthermore, the phrase is problematic for American citizens who do not believe in a god, or those who don't adhere to a monotheistic religion.   

I think the rest of the pledge itself is beautiful.  But whenever I say the pledge, which I have frequently, I leave out the phrase "under God."   

I personally love the fact that the pledge was written by a Socialist Baptist minister.  

turtle68
by Mahinaarangi on Nov. 28, 2013 at 6:42 AM
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Quoting Friday:


Quoting turtle68:

For me the words mean nothing and I would have no problem saying it....its more about the feelings it stirs when saying the entire pledge and what that pledge means to you.  JMO

My national anthem is called God defend New Zealand.  I sing it with pride and would not want a word changed.  Im sure I sit with the majority on this.  The words if you believe in god can give you comfort and peace...the words if you dont believe can stir pride just as much.

If it were originally written that way, I might agree but it was added years later against the wishes of the authors family.

why does it matter if it was originally written a different way.  The reasonings on why it was put in and why it now seems to be taken out doesnt change the meaning behind the pledge.

God save the queen changes to reflect the times.  The meaning and pride held when someone patriotic sings it is still the same.

rfurlongg
by on Nov. 28, 2013 at 7:52 AM
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It doesn't matter to me. If you believe in god say they word, if you do not omit it.

I wonder how many people really ponder on the words when they say the pledge. I often people watch during the pledge and most people look bored, as if they are simply going through a motion. Like putting a coat on. Except I am certain all cafemom members ponder every word and meaning ;-).

Not having grown up in this country I find the chanting of the pledge kind of odd. The pledge is very uniquely American.

Jmho.
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candlegal
by Judy on Nov. 28, 2013 at 8:49 AM
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Should they remove it, I will still say it.

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